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Recent vile events show clearly we are being played and manipulated on a mass scale

ArmyJerry

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I PERSONALLY THINK ITS A DEEP STATE END GAME, THE “INSURANCE” POLICY mentions=ed by our FBI. Trump needs to dismantle the connection between the deeep state and the MSM or his term (s) as president will be a footnote to the last peaceful attempt to reign in tyranny. Democrats encouraging their travelers to kill republicans, n=to cont=front them at every turn, to harass them wherever they are, they hatred of Jews, their hatred of independent “free” black Americans and people of color. Then they either put up a patsy or a guy delivers wile E coyote type splody mails allegedly and they label him a right wing extremist for 15 news cycles. All why=lie democrat social=lists and VP Biden is giving speeches of support to invading hordes from the shithole south and democrat operatives on the ground handing out sorts dollars to th e invaders, is there no law against this like foreign corrupt practices act?

Why is Trump not investigating why are people not getting indicted and put in jail? Is Trump a pussy, all talk no action? He is the Cheif law enforcement officer in the country.

You guys seeing this too?
 
Not just seeing . Completely disgusted at the lqck of consequences for seditious treasonous behavoir . Equally aghast that the commies think that we don't see this shit . I mean these fuckers must be sm9kin some hardcore shit to think " I know let's mail ourselves bombs . That will get us some support . " Or the shitbag Sheriff that allowed Parkland . Held deputies back . What the ever lovin fuck .
 
I think the communists must be really scared that they are about to loose.
They are pulling out all the crazy stops right before the elections. A horrible, violent turn to their usual "October Surprise".
They are determined to win no matter how many people must die.

Maybe one day the religious & ethnic Jews in this country will realize that their best friends in the whole world are the Freedom loving patriots that they usually vote against in favour of Communists who see them as little more than yet another minority group to exploit.

I would bet if you rounded up a large sample of gun owning Trump voters and a large sample of Hillary voters and ask who is interested in volunteering a Saturday morning to provide security to a local synagogue and you get to bring your own equipment... the numbers would be unmistakable.
 
Why is Trump not investigating why are people not getting indicted and put in jail?
Is Trump a pussy, all talk no action?
He is the Cheif law enforcement officer in the country.

You guys seeing this too?

It isn't Trump's job to do any of these things. All of these complete and utter failures to act are due to that fuck stick, good-for-nothing Jeff Sessions. All Trump can do is ask him to do so. Without Sessions buying in and acting, nothing gets done.

The question we all should be asking and that I ask every day is why is Sessions still the Chief of all things that are supposed to be Justice in America
 
You guys seeing this too?

No. No President ever does as much as his more passionate voters hope. When Obama pushed healthcare thru his base complained that--- it was not free,paid for by a 100% tax on surplus wealth and they complained that he had not federalized local police and that he had not brought the troops home and that he had not jailed more Republicans and Blackwater people.
 
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The only way anyone is being manipulated is if they act. As in voting. Or if they don't act. As in sheep. Sometimes something has to be done as in petitions. Or contacting our senators. Or just sit and bitch while watching stuff go bad.
 
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Had to visit the local synagogue regularly two years ago when all the threats were being phoned in.
While in the lobby couldn't help but note the Rabbis letter claiming Trump a Nazi and the rise of anti Semitism.
I shook my head as a Trump voter, there to protect them but being railed against at the same time.

Yep, kind of the exact problem that I can't understand with a lot of the minorities in this country.
They are programmed to hate those who might actually be their best friends and reflexively vote for, defend and defer to any whim those who actually are their own enemies.

There is also often some political & philosophical differences between Jews in America and Jews in Israel.
 
This whole scenario has been building for a long time. It is just being esculated because the Left never thought Trump would win the election. Then, they figured they had the deck stacked with the deep state. With Trump attacking their plants they are in full panic mode. The mail bombs and synagogue shooting are both staged to further their agenda, as has ALL of the recent mass shootings.

I have always been amazed by how far the Jews and Catholics have crawled up the Democrates ass. The liberal agenda is antithetical to all religious platforms except Muslims. Jews calling Trump a fascist is pretty funny seeing as how Obama threw Israel under the bus. What it boils down to is that people are just fucking stupid.
 
This whole scenario has been building for a long time. It is just being esculated because the Left never thought Trump would win the election. Then, they figured they had the deck stacked with the deep state. With Trump attacking their plants they are in full panic mode. The mail bombs and synagogue shooting are both staged to further their agenda, as has ALL of the recent mass shootings.

I have always been amazed by how far the Jews and Catholics have crawled up the Democrates ass. The liberal agenda is antithetical to all religious platforms except Muslims. Jews calling Trump a fascist is pretty funny seeing as how Obama threw Israel under the bus. What it boils down to is that people are just fucking stupid.
I agree they are stupid. But not just. They are serving their agenda.
 
I have always been amazed by how far the Jews and Catholics have crawled up the Democrates ass.
The Catholic Church nauseates me, and I'm Catholic.

Fucking American Catholic nuns are some of the most rabid socialists on earth. Fuck their social justice.

If the balloon goes up I know where to go and find them.
 
The Utopian BS is what gets all of the religious zealots stirred up . It's truly a great idea until the fuckers at the top start the killing , food rationing and seizing of money and property . Stalin didn't just ban religion , he stole millions in religious artifacts ie gold from the Eastern Orthodox . But hey let's support it because this time it'll be different . At least until it's not .
 
You can't expect the Dems and Deepstate to just abandon and walk away from something they have been building for over 50 years. You can't expect Session to take down the complex hidden infrastructure that supports them in a heartbeat. You can't cut off just tentacles only to watch them grow back. You need to kill the head.

I am the most impatient effer in the world. But I want the kill to be thorough, merciless and real. Not botched. Nothing has happened yet, but that does not mean nothing is happening. Trumps got this. In my eyes its, "trust him, He's the only chance we got".
 
This shit is like Hydra from the Avengers . Funny how art imitates life . Cut off one head and seven take it's place . Where the eff is Sessions any how ? Bueller , Beuller ?
 
It will look more like the war lords of Afghanistan. JMHO

Constitutional warlords of America perhaps?

New tag line... "Live free or we'll kill you" ?
No more leaving it up to you if you want to exercise your "right to bear arms" rather a duty that you best be carrying arms at all times or we'll deal with you for refusing your duty to carry arms always. HA!
 
We will know much more six months after the November election results, and what those results bring. I think the government is hiding behind the "free speech" nonsense rather than indicting people for sedition and treasonous behavior. If the government really wanted to end the Antifa type nonsense, they would make it illegal to wear masks during riots, civil disturbances, protest marches, etc. Then they would prosecute those who engage in violence, try to incite violence, and either destroy, or try to incite the destruction of property.

I haven't figured out how the government thinks they will benefit from allowing civil unrest, anarchy, and rioting to go unchecked. Clearly, the government has the ability to stop these things, they just choose not to. I have heard many theories about why the government won't stop these things, but I have yet to hear one that makes complete sense and explain everything.
 
Well, i dont want them ending antidfa as teh power they would use to do it is mostly unconstitutional and you would fall intl the safety at all cost traps they use to undermine our freedoms and our Constitution.

I would leave it up to the property owners and individuals that are attacked to deal with the threat direct without fear of prosecution,

We will know much more six months after the November election results, and what those results bring. I think the government is hiding behind the "free speech" nonsense rather than indicting people for sedition and treasonous behavior. If the government really wanted to end the Antifa type nonsense, they would make it illegal to wear masks during riots, civil disturbances, protest marches, etc. Then they would prosecute those who engage in violence, try to incite violence, and either destroy, or try to incite the destruction of property.

I haven't figured out how the government thinks they will benefit from allowing civil unrest, anarchy, and rioting to go unchecked. Clearly, the government has the ability to stop these things, they just choose not to. I have heard many theories about why the government won't stop these things, but I have yet to hear one that makes complete sense and explain everything.
 
I would suspect that property owners who defended against antifa violence would get prosecuted far more readily than if antifa types defended against right wing violence. I wish I didn't believe that was true. I also wish I didn't believe there are different levels of prosecution within the justice system for the "haves" (Clinton and congress critters) and the "have nots". But perception is reality.
 
No, I don't want to give the state any more power. They already have too much. I think one of the best ways to cut the state's power is to cut their money...

Although I don't like Antifa, and I would like them stopped, I am not willing to go down the slippery slope of using any unconstitutional methods to stop them. To be sure, our constitution and rules of law are often used against us. While some folks may think it is acceptable to use any means to stop those they don't like, I am not among them. The problem with using illegal/unconstitutional methods to stop those who we may not like, is that while it may seem fine while, or if, we are in power, but once the power shifts, we would be among the first to howl if those unconstitutional/illegal methods were used against us.

I had a similar discussion with someone over setting new or different qualifications for people vote. It seems like a great idea while we are setting the rules, but when power shifts, we might find ourselves fighting to keep the right to vote.

Currently, I think Antifa is starting to hurt both their cause, and the cause of the democrats. At first, the democrats seemed to like Antifa, then a few months ago, when public backlash about Antifa rioters blew back onto the democrats, the democrats began to distance themselves from Antifa. However, I think the democrats were just a little too slow to distance themselves, and as a result got painted with the socialism brush a little more than they wanted. Democrats are largely socialists, they just didn't want their socialist views to be so blatant so soon.
 
I'm just not sure where free speech ends and seditious speech begins when someone is calling for people to "kill the president". I think free speech clearly defends someone's right to say they don't like government, wants government changed, they dislike someone, etc. But when that speech begins to call for violence, I'm not quite sure where, or even IF there is a point past which free speech could or even should be curtailed. My comments above about all seems fine when I am the one placing limits, but things become problematic when my foe gets to decide the limits applies to free speech too.

So, I would be very interested to learn if people here even think there is any kind of speech that should be limited. Should we even consider limiting speech saying things like "Kill all the ________(fill in any group of people)", or "We need to kill ______ (fill in the name) as soon as possible" ?
 
sedition begins when people start talking about doing away with the rule of law, the electoral college, begging to be searched so they feel safe, begging the government to take their money, begging to be ruled extra constitutionally, it begins when people suppress your right to vote by killing Jews in a synagogue a week before an election, by gunning down republican congressmen at a baseball field just after an election, by shooting 550 people at a country music festival because they are Trump supporters, its begins when people beg the government to make them "feel" safe no matter what.

If we didnt let people preach hate and beg their followers to murder their political opponents, the evil ones would still be in power, now we kind of know who is who. Trump and the people who elected them forced them out in the open. All because of free speech they have.

Antifa is a bunch of skinny jean wearing communist useful idiots being managed by the scumfukery that we call the elite, we just need to note who the scumfukery are and when they make the next big move after Trump nominates another SC justice or when the shitbird repubs win a majority in the house at the mid terms the game will be upped and the violence from the evil ones will be upped , they are violent hateful bunch, at that point their targets will take action if the feds dont.

What does sedition mean in your eyes???
 
I haven't figured out how the government thinks they will benefit from allowing civil unrest, anarchy, and rioting to go unchecked.

I have heard many theories about why the government won't stop these things, but I have yet to hear one that makes complete sense and explain everything.


There was a news article today, that I cannot find now, showing a b/w picture of a previous demonstration or unrest, titled something like "The last president to encourage civil unrest to increase police powers",
I didnt save it, but it touched on the U.S. government's police power growth after each spate of unrest.
The worst offender was Nixon, followed by the Bushes.
There are a number of articles referring to the militarization of police following rioting, the violence of the war on drugs, and the violence of domestic terrorism (McVeigh) and 9-11.
There is a book, "The Crisis" that shows police powers increased after each spasm of violence going back to reconstruction after the 1860's nastiness, and up to the Watts riots.

And there are numerous examples of other countries governments using crisis to completely take over, most specifically the totalitarian regimes, the communist countries, and the Alinski papers describing the methodology...

The U.S. military (SF), the ChristiansInAction, and the intelligence community have published papers and manuals on how to create unrest to destabilize a country and change a government.

There is a clear following of this pattern today.

All you have to do is pick a side....
Democrats saying go nut and be uncivil and when we take back the house, Senate, and presidency, we'll fix all this....

Republicans saying, all this is the democrats fault, vote us and we'll fix it.

Each side tries to capitalize on the unrest with a fix promise if you will vote for them.

All that is plain to see...
 
Those who forget (or dont know) history are doomed to repeat it.

Those who rewrite history to achieve a political goal have an agenda.

Those who destroy history to teach their view to the unenlightened.... well, who did that shit?

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You can't expect the Dems and Deepstate to just abandon and walk away from something they have been building for over 50 years. You can't expect Session to take down the complex hidden infrastructure that supports them in a heartbeat. You can't cut off just tentacles only to watch them grow back. You need to kill the head.

I am the most impatient effer in the world. But I want the kill to be thorough, merciless and real. Not botched. Nothing has happened yet, but that does not mean nothing is happening. Trumps got this. In my eyes its, "trust him, He's the only chance we got".

If we can survive past this election, let's see what happens then. There is a law called the Hatch Act which makes it illegal for those in power to reveal highly controversial information etc just before an election if this info may sway the election results. Due to caution and making sure any criminal charges brought are indefensible, Trump admin can't afford to violate this law although the DNC does so all the time. I'm hoping once this hurdle is passed then the FISA declassification will detonate and destroy this house of cards by exposing their treason with no way out for the Obama/Clinton-planted moles in our government.
 
I see people moving away from cities soon to protect their families. Get a place of your own in the country away from all the stress and bullshit and raise your family. Or stay in cities and have your kids shot at school, deluded by politicians, or perverted by the street. It's when people are to close to each other that problems arise.
 
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The big problem with the modern day federal government is the amount of income taxes that head their way. Percentage-wise, the feds get a whole lot more of our paycheck than what our home states do. Why in the hell does the biggest portion of our payroll deductions have to leave our home states to go to Washington, just to be bundled back up and sent back to the same state the dollars originated from? Some states don't get back every dollar they send, while communist shitholes get 2 dollars back for every 1 dollar they send out. Back in the early 1900's, federal income tax was only about 3% - enough to run the military at the time and not much else. A lot more money stayed within the states and got put to work at a local level. If some states would man up and refuse to send so much money to Washington and keep it within their own borders, the overreaching power of the feds would dry up.
 
And for the longest time in our history they managed to accomplish those duties without a federal income tax.

I await your response.
There have been federal taxes since shortly after the founding of the nation. If you were paying attention you would have noticed I gave an alternative to an income tax in the post you partially quoted.
 
they have very few legitimate duties that require money and taxing people is not the only way they can and did get money for the first 150 years of our republic. They use taxes as a weapon of control because that are that fucking evil, its not constitutional.
You are funny guy and I agree with some of what you say. I am pissed off that I work 100 hours a week to pay Bill's, taxes, and lasy peoples wage. However without government there would be no USA no constitution . No history of good deeds. No rebuilding of Germany and Japan after Ww2. No good example.