So... This turd just shot up a courthouse in Dallas.

[cornhusker86]

"What is a Veteran? Title 38 of the Code of Federal Regulations defines a veteran as “a person who served in the active military, naval, or air service and who was discharged or released under conditions other than dishonorable.” This definition explains that any individual that completed a service for any branch of armed forces classifies as a veteran as long as they were not dishonorably discharged. However, with regard to applicable benefits, other considerations are important and will be covered in later sections."
https://va.org/what-is-a-veteran-the-legal-definition/

There have been cases where individuals have been kicked out of basic and received a discharge other than dishonorable and have successfully claimed veteran status.

You are technically correct. I have yet to see the reason for his discharge, let alone the category. I think most are assuming he was let go for mental illness. If that is the case he would have been eligible for VA care. I've heard no mention of him receiving such care. Until information about his discharge comes to light, I stand by my assertion.

Edit, if he was discharged for mental health reasons, or physical injuries, I'll concede the point.

 

[buffalowinter]

I seriously doubt he received a discharge under Chapter 8, mentally unfit for service. This is probably the hardest way to leave the army, whether used by the individual or the Commander. The easiest way to leave the Army early is to fail your PT test, fail to meet weight sandards, piss positive, or refuse a school. The easiest way to Chapter a person who doesn't want to leave is Chapter 13, unsatisfactory performance. Other ways to separate early are Hardship (Chapter 6) and Medical (Chapter5). I have used all of these. He had more than 180 days so his discharge will receive a characterization. All of these Chapters generally result in a General Discharge under Honorable conditions.

 

[cornhusker86]

I seriously doubt he received a discharge under Chapter 8, mentally unfit for service. This is probably the hardest way to leave the army, whether used by the individual or the Commander. The easiest way to leave the Army early is to fail your PT test, fail to meet weight sandards, piss positive, or refuse a school. The easiest way to Chapter a person who doesn't want to leave is Chapter 13, unsatisfactory performance. Other ways to separate early are Hardship (Chapter 6) and Medical (Chapter5). I have used all of these. He had more than 180 days so his discharge will receive a characterization. All of these Chapters generally result in a General Discharge under Honorable conditions.

Again, you are technically correct Sir. IMO, pissing hot, or chapter 13 should be dishonorable. Failing a PT test, weight standards, or refusing a school should be other that honorable. Chapter 5 and 6 are legit.

The fact remains, we don't know the reason for his discharge. The media referring to him as a veteran is premature at best. One could argue my objection was also premature. I stand by it none the less.

 

[Dougie308]

And he’s out of the news cycle already.

 

[MarinePMI]

Again, you are technically correct Sir. IMO, pissing hot, or chapter 13 should be dishonorable. Failing a PT test, weight standards, or refusing a school should be other that honorable. Chapter 5 and 6 are legit.

The fact remains, we don't know the reason for his discharge. The media referring to him as a veteran is premature at best. One could argue my objection was also premature. I stand by it none the less.

I think we referred to it as discharged for "the inability to adapt", and it was a General Discharge (had to go through this with an admitted racist dark green Marine). Paper was filed, and poof, he was gone. Had another that had "to go see the wizard" (mentally snapped; just sat there in the field one night, giggling and drooling on himself) and that was a much longer and difficult process (as BW mentions).

 

[SilentStalkr]

I’m just stating the dude had to be mental, despite whatever reason he was discharged! I mean clearly something ain’t quite right with this dude lol.

 

[Maggot]

I’m just stating the dude had to be mental, despite whatever reason he was discharged! I mean clearly something Wasnt quite right with this dude lol.

FIFY

Hes a stiff now.

 

[Precisiondada]

Weird how there seemed to be at least two experienced cameramen there at this exact time. One on the adjacent roof and one on the street