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BREAKING: Oregon governor authorizes state police to use force against GOP senators for stalling climate bill

Been a bad month.

Watched about 10 grand go out the door, none of it to my own benefit. Family.

I love them dearly, but it's breaking me.

A year ago, our Granddaughter came to say, and it's been a very good change.

Then our Duaghter arrived, Grandson in tow, along with a (sorta) dog and slew of cats. To live with us. I saw her arrive and it was "wazzat?"

Dust finally settles, and there are five people, four cats, three dogs, and our 10 Y/O other Granddaughter flies in to Tucson tonight at midnight.

It's a three bedroom house.

The Grandson has an (old, old) 30ft motor home parked in the back yard, his Hacienda. That was last month or so.

Daughter now has a 28ft used fifth wheel trailer, parked up where she works, a long story, but she's moving in this week. That was last week's big expenditure.

Yesterday, Grandson had a car bought for him, turns out to be an '84 Shelby GT 350, and it's beautiful.

Somewhere along the line, Granddaughter #1's Mustang had a convertible roof replaced. (two weeks ago?).

I'm getting punchy just trying to keep track.

Granddaughter #1 is airborne right this moment bringing Granddaughter #2 from Upstate NY to stay for the Summer. Airfare, etc.

Then yesterday, the Rehab clinic told me I wasn't done with Rehab next Friday, I had ten more sessions to go, so I won't be getting my life back for an additional three weeks and some.

Crap. Just, crap.

Money-wise, we're really not hurting, but the war chest took a significant hit.

Keeping track of life..., priceless.

And then the civil war footing ramped up. I lost it.

I'm back, I'm not happy, and nobody ever said I had to be. Fair is for other people.

Greg

Welcome back Greg.
 
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The gov has done the same if I am not mistaken...



I think the point they are trying to make is that the fight is coming to you. I’m not sure what anyone plans to do. If they do find some goons willing to take and carry out such orders you aren’t going to stand much of a chance against an unannounced trained group of 12-15+ men. Not unless you have a compound and some goodies with remote detonators laying around. It’s a far fetched possibility but it is a real possibility that they come round people and their property up. It’s getting more tyrannical by the day.



I guess at that point everyone would have a real decision to make. If you haven’t planned accordingly and don’t have back up tho then you don’t have much of a chance.
Napolitano was DHS Sec. when she did that.
 
In other, related news, the Irish PM and his fellow envirofascist buddies are saying that they want Ireland to be completely "carbon free" by 2050, by eliminating private car ownership and forcing everybody to move into mega-cities. Basically they want to create Oceania AKA Airstrip-1.

Sounds like Europe, in this case Ireland, is trying to return society to the middle ages so to speak.
 
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The country has grown soft and even those that believe in the constitution have grown soft.
I think you'll find that while 3% or more will take the fight ONCE the communists are actually showing up to haul people off at machinegun point to take THEIR family to the concentration camp, I think probably by population less than 0.3% are willing to kick off the fight at the beginning when they don't know if anyone is going to have their backs or if they will be left all alone to get steamrolled by the "just following orders" police and military (and YES, I think a large block of the police AND the military will "just follow orders", history proves it both in this country and the rest of the world).

Perhaps I'm wrong, hopefully you are right, it would make life a lot easier for the cause of freedom.
You make a good point but you missed the most elemental part of it.

Those who have gone soft span both sides of the political spectrum. The overwhelming majority of strident leftists and communists are weak and soft but talk tough. They will fold like a cheap suit when they come home to the walls painted red in blood.
 
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Exactly this. If you read the complete article, you’ll see that the Dems controller both the house and senate and can literally pass any bill that they want whenever they want...as long as there is a quorum. In cases of really bad bills, this is literally the only way that the Republicans can deny them passage.

Reading further, you’ll see that this tactic has been used occasionally throughout our history by both sides, including by Lincoln. It’s a last ditch, but valid tactic when there is no other option. In this case the Republicans are serving the people that elected them and are representing their interests in the only way left for them to do.

And, for those not paying attention, the gov is a woman.
And a homely one at that!
 
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In other, related news, the Irish PM and his fellow envirofascist buddies are saying that they want Ireland to be completely "carbon free" by 2050, by eliminating private car ownership and forcing everybody to move into mega-cities. Basically they want to create Oceania AKA Airstrip-1.

On the road right now, gonna take me a bit to dig up the link.

If the shit gets kicked off here, the enviroNazis better be dealt with mercilessly, ruthlessly, with no pity and no rancor. That will also show their friends elsewhere in the world how we fucking boogy.

Industrial development is the only way that we can achieve a better future. I will not fucking live in a world where technological advancements and breakthrough medical/scientific discoveries are deliberately hampered by a bunch of nutcases who want to go back to the fucking Stone Age. I worked hard and broke years of sweat to own the shit that I own today. Fucking try to take it from me and see how I will react.

There may not be a lot of guns in Ireland but if these folks know their history, guns are not the only weapons that can kill motherfuckers at 100 yards and beyond.

Essentially the gist of the UN Agenda 21 which is actively in progress as well as pretty much what the entire Carbon Cultists / Earth Worshipers are striving for. Total slavery, total control, the government says you can only live in this little tiny Soviet style unheated apartment block and eat your recycled cold Soylent green while the elites get to enjoy the rest of the world as their own private ranch. All in the name of the false god of "earth".

They aren't even trying to hide it... yes they actually will tell you they want to eliminate a lot of population and force them to live like little slaves in a bee hive.... I'm all about let's start the depopulation with the Carbon Cultists / SJWs / One World types / Earth Worshipers / Bankers / Politicians and see how it goes....
 
I have stopped being surprised by the political theater of both parties. It used to be mostly Federal government that had the big political theater performances, but it has trickled down to state, county, and city governments too.

I am no longer impressed by the theatrics of either party. When "the people" finally start regularly voting out the politicians who are more interested in theatrics than actually running government, or when politicians actually end up serving lengthy jail sentences I might be impressed.

Until then: Yawn...
 
This is a huge tax bill on working Oregonians masquerading as an environmental bill. The consequences of this taxation will be devastating to Oregon.
This is probably the key to this discussion. Reblicans are doing their best to oppose tyranny for the common working citizen in Oregon. I hope the outcome is that the middle class American in Oregon can earn a living himself and his family. Screw
The environmentalist socialist assholes. Keep up the the good work, Republicans.
 
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We are not even close. We have to boil at least one more generation.


At the latest pattern I am seeing: It seems like the taking away of gun rights may just be a catalyst, but the envirofreaks are what will REALLY supply the open flame and ignite the shit.

Gun rights issues mostly affect gunnies and shooters like us. Take some electric scooter riding, Starbucks drinking hipster from Seattle and guns won't mean shit to him. He's probably never even thought about owning or shooting guns in his whole life before.

But the shit that the envirofreaks are trying to push will affect EVERYBODY. Their proposed carbon taxes and "carbon bans" will increase tax rates on businesses and property owners by 10 times or more. Personal transportation like cars and motorcycles may even be outlawed. A lot of people will be driven into bankruptcy and destitution, and their financial assets taken away by court orders and bureaucracy. Essentially this is the implementing of "communal ownership" that the Marxist cunt from Colorado was trying to push.

Many people are business owners and property owners. Far more of them than gun owners. And this envirofreak bullshit will cause them a lot of alarm.
 
So the Green New Deal brought to American by the 29 year old AOC will become the battle cry for the left and NOT a single shot will be fired.
So much for AJ's plan!

Freedom doesn't die with a whimper, nor does it die with a bang
Freedom dies to thunderous applause and celebration.
 
So the Green New Deal brought to American by the 29 year old AOC will become the battle cry for the left and NOT a single shot will be fired.

So much for AJ's plan!


People who are pissed off for having to turn over their entire life's accomplishments to the state because their businesses, vehicles, homes are not "carbon compliant", and forced to move into a tiny concrete apartment block in New Pripyat may just be the ones to fire the shots though.
 
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Possibly, but they're on the Left Coast, and she's on the Other Left Coast... (AOC on the OLC?)

Would take a nuke... Oh, wait...

Now if they did the opposite, and they own the Air Force... (They do, ya know...)

Mutual Assured Destruction...? Anybody? Anybody? Beuler?
 
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The Left will kick it off . Solid Americans are quite tired of being repeatedly poked in the chest .
It's your fault because you're Christian .
Its1 your fault because you're white .
You have to share yours with the world .
You didnt1 build this , it's not yours and you need to share with Illegals and those who choose not to work .
All of the anti 2A feces .
I was at the Levittown riot and it was not caused by a trucker . Trenton NJ police followed those truckers across Rt 1 and the Delaware . We watched as those some police officers played chicken with the trucks . Cutting them off , brake checking them until the managed to stop 9ne , pull the guy out and give him a near fatal case of hickory poisoning . Needless to say the crowd did not take kindly to it . The place blew the fuck up . People went from .35 a gallon for gas to over a buck . All during Carter's disasterous Presidency . My uncle was a one time President of Philly Longshoreman's Union . Even the oil embargo was half fabricated . He said they would turn tankers away . He said they were Federal guys . The fucks were so hated they hax to have an entourage of security . That was just gas . The commies want to destroy it from the top down and leave us with our hands on our asses sifting thru the cinders . Only now the majority of us see it . I think it will be more than 3% and I'm certain that these arrogant walking bags of feces will k8ck this shit off .
 
I will say this, Alex Jones had these muther fuckers pegged better than all the rest.

He is pretty good for keeping eye on the tempo of things. But in my opinion he leads people into a Zedekiah type of thinking in believing that they can escape or prevent what's happening. Historically Zedekiah's sons were murdered and his eyes plucked out for defying God's plan after being told they were to go into the captivity of the king of babylon.

I guess the weight one puts on believing we are at the doorway of an end point where a one world order takes over and is then destroyed by God depends on 1) if you believe in such a thing, and 2) if you do, how much further down the debauchery rabbit hole mankind can go before we get there.

Here we are today the world promotes various form of sexual deviancy (now with children included), manipulating DNA, selling body parts off murdered babies. That is just scratching the surface and a very large portion or even the majority of the population is OK with it all.

Good old Alex thinkin we can turn all this around, restore the original republic, and then explore the heavens like Buck Rodgers, is him smoking a pipe dream. What's worse is he is leading people into both physical and spiritual calamity. It would be better if he told people to take cover and sit tight, which is what one would call if artillery was inbound, on target, and firing for effect.
 
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This says it all.... Children as props.
 
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When I see communists using Children as props it brings back way too much history of prior communists using children as their stooges...
Sure eventually the kids usually wind up getting liquidated, but by then they have helped the communists accomplish their goals.

It's the same when somebody says "For the Children" I usually know that means vote for / do / go the opposite way.
 
They all look a bit retarded
You should try and hire some high school or college kids these days. Zero common sense and no basic skills of any kind. There are some good ones but few and far between. This is what happens when minimum wage and OSHA keeps kids under 16-18 from getting jobs and learning things.

So many people that are getting out of high school or college and have never had a job and already know everything
 
You should try and hire some high school or college kids these days. Zero common sense and no basic skills of any kind. There are some good ones but few and far between. This is what happens when minimum wage and OSHA keeps kids under 16-18 from getting jobs and learning things.

So many people that are getting out of high school or college and have never had a job and already know everything

And think they should be boss and get top pay.

Exactly. Sadly, I’ve seen some of these assholes fresh out of school come in and basically straight up yell hiring managers they won’t work for such and such but want like $85k starting pay, benefits and 5 weeks vacation while working from home and the damn companies give it to them. When I’ve inquired about why they just follow it up with something along the lines of, “these are new times and we must be competitive to draw new blood!!!” Talk about being pissed off. What about all the guys that had to work up to that, prove themselves and so on? It’s happening and it’s ridiculous and then the dumbasses wind up leaving and going somewhere else to find another sucker to hire them. Simply amazing to me. The old guys that stick around get screwed and if one of them goes and tries to argue some of the same points to get a raise or vacation or whatever they are told they can move on if they like. They don’t even respect the people that have given them 20 years, made the companies what they are and so on. It’s sad really. No respect whatsoever for the guys that got you there. And I’ve seen it a lot of places.
 
That sounds like a hell of a shot show, but I don't agree with the GOP senators' tactics any more than calling out the state police. They were elected and are paid to show up to work, just like the rest of us. Walking out to stall a vote is the political equivalent of the juvenile "taking your ball and going home." Sure, they're the "good guys" today, but it will be the "other guys" next week pulling the same shit. Lots of bad laws get passed, but govt only works when everyone plays. This is classic tyranny of the minority.
Dems in Wisconsin already used the same tactic, with dems leaving the state. As I recall, they objected to the governor giving teachers the 'option' of joining the teachers' union, and stopping the state from collecting their dues for them. Dems lost their minds ,even forcing a recall election. Teachers took over the capital building for several weeks causing 450k in damage. Teachers 'taught' gradeschool students the 'art' of peaceful protest in their selfish behalf . High praise to Repubs for finally standing for something much more important than a labor union.
 
Dems in Wisconsin already used the same tactic, with dems leaving the state. As I recall, they objected to the governor giving teachers the 'option' of joining the teachers' union, and stopping the state from collecting their dues for them. Dems lost their minds ,even forcing a recall election. Teachers took over the capital building for several weeks causing 450k in damage. Teachers 'taught' gradeschool students the 'art' of peaceful protest in their selfish behalf . High praise to Repubs for finally standing for something much more important than a labor union.

How soon so many forget
 
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I get the context, and I also agreed with it, and 'liked' it.

But just how bad do things have to be, to get a whole whack of SOLID citizens, of 'upstanding moral fortitude' and "contributing taxpaying citizens" to collectively "like" a picture of hitler and the hitler youth?

Just think about that one, for a moment. Before this place goes down in the history-books as a "supporter" of hitler's teachings. I for one, DON'T "like" that.

Hell of a twist, eh?
 
Didnt the dems pull this same shit a while ago? These are the same tactics that the dems have used in the past. Its actually about time some Republicans have started to use the same tactics. Maybe these asshats will learn that shoving bs laws on citizens will not work
 
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Didnt the dems pull this same shit a while ago? These are the same tactics that the dems have used in the past. Its actually about time some Republicans have started to use the same tactics. Maybe these asshats will learn that shoving bs laws on citizens will not work


In 2001: UNDER Kate Brown's leadership the OR Senate Dems walked out over the issue of redistricting. Their goal was to retain & gain power.

In 2019: OR Senate Repubs walk out to protect the livelihoods of farmers, tax payers & workers.


If so certain #HB2020 were supported by Oregonians - why deny citizens a vote? and add the emergency clause?
 
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Unfortunately he is?!

Oregon, Republicans largely opposed the bill—and so did some Democrats. However, the bill was sponsored by Senator Brian Boquist (R-Dallas), who drafted it after his stepson, a veteran of the U.S. Navy, committed suicide, according to The Oregonian.
Boquist hoped that the bill would allow authorities to intervene, particularly in cases where troubled veterans became a demonstrable danger to themselves or others. Boquist was the only Republican who voted in favor of the bill—it was carried by Oregon's Democrat majority in the House and Senate.