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Donald Trump’s coronavirus advice just might kill us

Now then, originally, just wanted to say that the first case of Coronavirus was found in Washington, D.C. and I was just wondering how long it is going to take donald to retreat to Mar-a Lago?


You should probably consider the very real possibility that COVID19 is all around you, now.....and it means about as much as the Flu except for certain groups.

Also remember the reason why viruses are used in Bio Weapons - the virus attacks and then unpacks a payload. We are at the point today where that payload can target particular DNA.
 
Bernie is going to take care of us all. After all - they know best for all of us uneducated common Proles.

I'll just roll a fatty and sit here on the bank of the creek drinking that free bubble-up and eating that rainbow stew....
 
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Coffee drinkers of the world unite!

Slumming it with some Keurig.

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But I got a fire of sorts......


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And a movie...

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And some fine coronavirus to keep my temp up.
 
On the topic of Unions,,,, I've a few points from experience. First off, I'm in Canada and things are a bit different up here.

I started my Trade in a non-union shop, and went through all my education points on my own with no help from the job at all. I had to supply my own PPE, started at $7.50 per hour (early 90's) with NO benefits whatsoever. They laid off the 'more senior' employees, because I did more work for cheaper.

After earning my Journeyman's Ticket, I moved back out West, then North, and was offered a job in a sawmill. I got paid 'cubic-dollars', ALL of the needed PPE was supplied, as well as extra stuff that I 'might need one day', FULL benefits, Excellent hours, (4-12's) any overtime was doubletime, with 3 weeks off each year to start. Things were great there, for years, until the Canada/US Softwood Lumber Agreement went to shit.

(Believe me when I say, there is a WHOLE LOT MORE that I learned about this fiasco, and certain 'practices' that companies do...)

I did all this learning, by being on the Plant Committee. I started off as a Job Steward, just so that I could contribute back. I worked my way up, was nominated, and became the "Recording Secretary" for a number of years.

There is good and bad, everywhere. Even in the Fireman's ranks. (ya'll thought I was gonna say Police, right?) The point I'm saying is EVERYWHERE. And yes, that includes "companies". There are good and bad ones out there. It truly takes immersion and paying attention to see the diabolical schemings of certain players.

Due to a multitude of reasons, not the first of which is that the town I live/worked in died,,,, I had to move to this central province again. Here I worked in a different union shop, doing my Trades job in a different field. What a joke. What a crap-show. I couldn't believe the difference between the two unions, let alone the 'marriage' between the union bigwigs and the company management. There, the people/employees were screwed over big time.

"Bought and paid-for" was my constant "random" statement pretty much anywhere, and at any time. It truly was a COMPLETELY different world. I'll never say anything good about the UFCW. At the same time though, I've seen a MASSIVE difference between unions in general, as well as workplaces in general, comparing this central province with B.C.

At the time, this province had an NDP government (bought and paid for) whereas B.C. had a Conservative government.

Hmmmmm,

The people, the jobs, the environment/location, the mindset, and the professionalism out there in the West is SO MUCH different than it is here. The difference is MASSIVE.

Bad unions exist, just the same as bad nurses do. And everyone knows a story about a time at the hospital where there was a bad nurse, right? But then there's ALSO that story that everyone knows about 'that one nurse who just changed their world'......

Tell me I'm wrong.
 
Want to talk about growing Cotton in Arizona and water rights, there is a pile of money being made there.
Little hint,there is no cotton being grown in Arizona.
Sum bitch, somebody better tell all these farmers what they are planting.
 
I think the good parts of Unions is the training. In my line of work technicians that are good carry a NICET certification and even some local jurisdictions require it to work there. You can have great training without the other crooked garbage. Our mechanical side of the business is all union and horror stories I hear about their negotiations for contract renewal are beyond ridiculous. The people running the unions are crooked and not the brightest. They are not above resorting to threats and intimidation.
 
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Okay, Okay, I have personally established that I'm not a fan of unions, and some on here have defended them, for their own reasons. Besides getting WAY of topic, there is a bigger issue here. I'm certain most everyone on this site is here because they love this country and are staunch supporters of the 2A. We don't need to divide ourselves, we have the govt and msm to try and do that. The issues we face as a country and as supporters of the constitution are far bigger. We can agree to disagree on minutiae, but we better damn well be united when the time comes to do so. This is my personal olive branch to the union supporters. When uncle comes for our guns, I'd still be proud to fight beside you. At the end of the day, we're still the patriotic ones here.
 
Lol. Take it all way. Take away all the
Subsidies
SNAP programs (yeah welfare is counted as farm spending. Take it all away)
Crop insurance
regulations,
mandatory trainings,
Dumping raw sewage in tributaries then blaming farm fertilizer for all the problems
.gov commodity market manipulation, Teachings /encouraging South American et al countries crop production
Corrupt judges ruling for Monsanto increasing seed costs
Feeding the kings animals that you aren’t allowed to shoot
Uncompensated takings of crop land and forest
Etc
etc.


Farmers vote 99 percent conservative.
They don’t want those subsidies or any of that other bs.

But if you the voter wants to vote to steal crop land, provide uncompensated food and habitat for game animals, not let you log your land, use the USDA and other .gov agencies to manipulate crop prices. Etc. They can pay for it.

Yea, take it all away.
Lol. Take it all way. Take away all the
Subsidies
SNAP programs (yeah welfare is counted as farm spending. Take it all away)
Crop insurance
regulations,
mandatory trainings,
Dumping raw sewage in tributaries then blaming farm fertilizer for all the problems
.gov commodity market manipulation, Teachings /encouraging South American et al countries crop production
Corrupt judges ruling for Monsanto increasing seed costs
Feeding the kings animals that you aren’t allowed to shoot
Uncompensated takings of crop land and forest
Etc
etc.


Farmers vote 99 percent conservative.
They don’t want those subsidies or any of that other bs.

But if you the voter wants to vote to steal crop land, provide uncompensated food and habitat for game animals, not let you log your land, use the USDA and other .gov agencies to manipulate crop prices. Etc. They can pay for it.

Everyone I know with wild animal problems collects crop damages. Is that not a thing there?

So, the answer is yes then? Figures, just like every farmer I hear griping about Welfare. Yea, and they all work real hard driving around drinking beer all day. And don't make any money, but have brand new cars, giant houses, and copious amounts of land. Oh yea, and charge to hunt on their land.

The 99% conservative comment is total bullshit, like a farmer talking shit about disability. You know fuck all about disability.

Unfortunately we need the EPA because there are people who refuse to admit their practices are hurting the environment. People who think silly things like, fertilizer in rivers, streams, and leached into the water table are harmless. People who apply chemicals over recommend rates, "because they know better."

What do you consider uncompensated taking of land?
 
Offener. No T Just saying.
And if you miss with the fo-5. The wind from it is like a tornado and will toss the subject into space.
.45 beats 9mm's every day. Folks who use 9's only do so because the mags are bigger, which is needed because they miss more oftener!

Whereas 1 single 45 will do the job, and there's still 6 left in the magazine. Minimum.

(am I helping yet? :D )
 
Yea, take it all away.


Everyone I know with wild animal problems collects crop damages. Is that not a thing there?

So, the answer is yes then? Figures, just like every farmer I hear griping about Welfare. Yea, and they all work real hard driving around drinking beer all day. And don't make any money, but have brand new cars, giant houses, and copious amounts of land. Oh yea, and charge to hunt on their land.

The 99% conservative comment is total bullshit, like a farmer talking shit about disability. You know fuck all about disability.

Unfortunately we need the EPA because there are people who refuse to admit their practices are hurting the environment. People who think silly things like, fertilizer in rivers, streams, and leached into the water table are harmless. People who apply chemicals over recommend rates, "because they know better."

What do you consider uncompensated taking of land?
no. There are no payments for crop damage. And after a year or 2 of claims, crop insurance calls that a “foreseeable loss” and won’t insure it anymore. You can get crop damage permits to shoot the animals but they are ineffective and inefficient.

Yeah it’s easy.lol you don’t know the first thing about it. If it’s no work and lots of money why doesn’t everyone do it?

Yes the vast majority of farmers vote conservative. That’s not even a question. Yes disability is the new welfare. Just because you or someone you know is actually disabled doesn’t make up for all the fakers and people getting disability for lies or bs reason. Like the female cop who is disabled after hearing someone shot over the radio. Or the cops that are disabled but running marathons or taking another cop job in Florida. Or all the people that are disabled but have plenty of energy to work on people’s vehicles under the table or other cash jobs. Bad back but go marlin fishing all the time etc.

Yes I’m sure you know all about fertilizer / leeching /water contamination etc. fertilizer is free right just dump it everywhere. Raw sewage/wildlife manure/golf course be lawn fertilizers are giant contributors. More than farming but no one is gonna put the blame on the people who will squeal and vote.

Uncompensated taking is buffer laws like in MI or Mn that have zero science behind them and are just for the pheasant hunters.
Uncompensated taking is being unable to cut ANY tree within a couple hundred feet of a stream or on a hill (not clear cut just selective logging for a healthy forest isn’t prohibited. )
Uncompensated taking is not being able to drain parts of land you own because the greenies and ducks unlimited don’t want you to farm it.
Uncompensated taking is losing crops to herds of winged and long legged rats with zero recourse
Etc
 
Everyone thinks their job is hardest most important job in the country, every bodies special.

This lists crop damage from wildlife as payable, and said for Crop Insurance customers, wildlife losses do not affect long-term individual yields. A customer’s yield before wildlife damage will be used to calculate their long-term yield. And long term yield is what they pay based on.


Nothing in your rant holds up to scrutiny. Your "uncompensated taking" is absolute bull shit. No, you shouldn't be able to mess with creek bottoms, the sedimentation effects everyone down stream. The amount of top soil you loose every year is bad enough, without you fucking up the fields and the creek bottoms. No, you shouldn't be able to drain wetlands. If you don't want them, don't buy them. If you already have them, they don't cost you more than we pay you. Last one goes back around to crop insurance, and the link above.

The theme I get here is, you will say what ever, whether it is true or not, to make yourself seem right.

Disability costs the tax payers 17 billion per year.

Crop insurance costs the tax payers 72 billion per year. Then another 20-33 billion in farm subsidies. {i see reports that range, 33 billion was reported by NPR for 2019. I trust them to be unbiased about as much as you though.}
 
Everyone thinks their job is hardest most important job in the country, every bodies special.

This lists crop damage from wildlife as payable, and said for Crop Insurance customers, wildlife losses do not affect long-term individual yields. A customer’s yield before wildlife damage will be used to calculate their long-term yield. And long term yield is what they pay based on.


Nothing in your rant holds up to scrutiny. Your "uncompensated taking" is absolute bull shit. No, you shouldn't be able to mess with creek bottoms, the sedimentation effects everyone down stream. The amount of top soil you loose every year is bad enough, without you fucking up the fields and the creek bottoms. No, you shouldn't be able to drain wetlands. If you don't want them, don't buy them. If you already have them, they don't cost you more than we pay you. Last one goes back around to crop insurance, and the link above.

The theme I get here is, you will say what ever, whether it is true or not, to make yourself seem right.

Disability costs the tax payers 17 billion per year.

Crop insurance costs the tax payers 72 billion per year. Then another 20-33 billion in farm subsidies. {i see reports that range, 33 billion was reported by NPR for 2019. I trust them to be unbiased about as much as you though.}
Truth, yep, word.....
 
Everyone thinks their job is hardest most important job in the country, every bodies special.

This lists crop damage from wildlife as payable, and said for Crop Insurance customers, wildlife losses do not affect long-term individual yields. A customer’s yield before wildlife damage will be used to calculate their long-term yield. And long term yield is what they pay based on.


Nothing in your rant holds up to scrutiny. Your "uncompensated taking" is absolute bull shit. No, you shouldn't be able to mess with creek bottoms, the sedimentation effects everyone down stream. The amount of top soil you loose every year is bad enough, without you fucking up the fields and the creek bottoms. No, you shouldn't be able to drain wetlands. If you don't want them, don't buy them. If you already have them, they don't cost you more than we pay you. Last one goes back around to crop insurance, and the link above.

The theme I get here is, you will say what ever, whether it is true or not, to make yourself seem right.

Disability costs the tax payers 17 billion per year.

Crop insurance costs the tax payers 72 billion per year. Then another 20-33 billion in farm subsidies. {i see reports that range, 33 billion was reported by NPR for 2019. I trust them to be unbiased about as much as you though.}
You don’t know a thing about what you are talking about.

Thanks for the first link though. I have a letter stating the exact opposite.
 
Everyone thinks their job is hardest most important job in the country, every bodies special.

This lists crop damage from wildlife as payable, and said for Crop Insurance customers, wildlife losses do not affect long-term individual yields. A customer’s yield before wildlife damage will be used to calculate their long-term yield. And long term yield is what they pay based on.


Nothing in your rant holds up to scrutiny. Your "uncompensated taking" is absolute bull shit. No, you shouldn't be able to mess with creek bottoms, the sedimentation effects everyone down stream. The amount of top soil you loose every year is bad enough, without you fucking up the fields and the creek bottoms. No, you shouldn't be able to drain wetlands. If you don't want them, don't buy them. If you already have them, they don't cost you more than we pay you. Last one goes back around to crop insurance, and the link above.

The theme I get here is, you will say what ever, whether it is true or not, to make yourself seem right.

Disability costs the tax payers 17 billion per year.

Crop insurance costs the tax payers 72 billion per year. Then another 20-33 billion in farm subsidies. {i see reports that range, 33 billion was reported by NPR for 2019. I trust them to be unbiased about as much as you though.}

Well...we should put the government in charge of farming. That'll fix all that shit.
 
When I was mining the contract came up as expected but company was talking about closing and needed this and that to stay open. long story short needed to buy our retirement out to stay open, they and the union wouldn't give us a formula to figure what the amount would be but said if we took the contract they'd be able to stay open well into the 21st century.
So getting bad info and pressure from the union headshits we signed the contract, so for almost 30 yrs. there most never came close to 80K as their retirement package, company and union said it was all they could do for the workers, over 65 million went into the company's pockets and we continued to pay our union dues which almost half of all dues went to Detroit to pay the main office.
More to this but it's a long and hateful subject even after many years of telling the company and union to eat sh*t and die.
One other thing most people in unions here are in one union, cops, checkout clerks, etc. all belong to same union and most of their dues goes out to fund the big man in Mich.
 
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Maybe farmers who collect tax dollars, should not complain about others who collect tax dollars.

I think some folks aren't clear on who gets tax dollars and who doesn't.

For instance....didn't we already have a discussion about this? Drug addicts getting disability, "that's not possible", but I proved it is possible?

It's hard to break into the club, even if you have a need and have paid your fair share.
 
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it was a guy literally on his first day of work trying to deliver a semi truck load of dynamite, a union guy on strike waited for him With a rifle and shot the trailer blowing up the freeway with a 30 foot deep crater. Ironically, the guys name was John Gault.
Who is John Gault? Sorry, I had to say it.
 
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I think some folks aren't clear on who gets tax dollars and who doesn't.

For instance....didn't we already have a discussion about this? Drug addicts getting disability, "that's not possible", but I proved it is possible?

It's hard to break into the club, even if you have a need and have paid your fair share.

I thought the discussion was can people get disability because they are drug addicts. If they have another condition they are not disqualified for it. That does not mean they can get social security for being a drug addict. I am sure there are people on disability who don't need it. People who are willing to lie for money is nothing new. In the disability or crop insurance world. So does that make the problem the program? I think it means the oversight is shoddy.
 
I don't get the attitude "I deserve it, they don't". When the lazy guy next door does as well as you do, it makes you mad. I guess that is a natural emotion. Though the more people making money, means more people spending it too. That means economic strength for our Country. It's actually good for you.

I have learned to worry about me. If I am doing well, it does not hurt me if you are too. But too many people think they should do well and eff everyone else. JMHO
 
Not jealous as one gets what one works for...but, how does a neighbor who makes a lot of money, then makes more due to a prosperous economy allow a person who is on a fixed income profit or get a better lifestyle? Just askin'!

Hi,

So is your question....
How does neighbor A make sure neighbor B can better their lifestyle?

IF so then....
Does neighbor A get to be in control of neighbor B's expenditure budget?
Does neighbor A get to be in control of neighbor B's asset sales?

Sincerely,
Theis
 
Maybe farmers who collect tax dollars, should not complain about others who collect tax dollars.
Lol I don’t want any government money. I want it all ended. And you know Jack shit about buffers/chemicals/crop ins etc. and “wildlife infestations” are not covered. And wildlife damage isn’t covered until it is extremely severe.

You want your bs disability instead of working like a honest person.
 
Lol I don’t want any government money. I want it all ended. And you know Jack shit about buffers/chemicals/crop ins etc. and “wildlife infestations” are not covered. And wildlife damage isn’t covered until it is extremely severe.

You want your bs disability instead of working like a honest person.

You don't want the money, stop taking it. No disability here, unlike you farmers, I don't need the government to cut me checks. Not that it matters anyway. SSD, is paid out of social security. Most work for years before needing it, most die before they collect as much as they pay in. Unlike farm welfare.

I think its funny you think you know something I don't about the chemicals you use. 99% of the time, that is someone who will use chemicals above recommended concentrations, and off label, because they "know." Yep, sometimes I think the EPA has run its course, then I talk to a farmer.

Are you saying disabled people are dishonest because they need disability? What would you do with them?
 
You don't want the money, stop taking it. No disability here, unlike you farmers, I don't need the government to cut me checks. Not that it matters anyway. SSD, is paid out of social security. Most work for years before needing it, most die before they collect as much as they pay in. Unlike farm welfare.

I think its funny you think you know something I don't about the chemicals you use. 99% of the time, that is someone who will use chemicals above recommended concentrations, and off label, because they "know." Yep, sometimes I think the EPA has run its course, then I talk to a farmer.

Are you saying disabled people are dishonest because they need disability? What would you do with them?
The depth of your ignorance knows no bounds.

Lol at looking to.gov for anything. The same epa that:
Got paid off to approve post applications of Dicamba
Approves raw sewage dumping into tributarys every time we get a half inch or more of rain. This goes on throughout the US
Approved MTBE as an oxygenate at the behest of the oil industry. Causing untold ground water contamination and cancer deaths. Could have used non toxic ethanol instead.
Destroyed a river with their own toxic waste dump

Yeah epa and .gov. That’s who we should turn to for advice. Brilliant!
 
The depth of your ignorance knows no bounds.

Lol at looking to.gov for anything. The same epa that:
Got paid off to approve post applications of Dicamba
Approves raw sewage dumping into tributarys every time we get a half inch or more of rain. This goes on throughout the US
Approved MTBE as an oxygenate at the behest of the oil industry. Causing untold ground water contamination and cancer deaths. Could have used non toxic ethanol instead.
Destroyed a river with their own toxic waste dump

Yeah epa and .gov. That’s who we should turn to for advice. Brilliant!

And yet you collect those checks. And bash anyone else who takes one. I don't know what to tell you. ?‍♂️

I see a lot of farmers with your attitude, and it doesn't do well in the public opinion for them. Most people work just as hard, and have a lot less to show for it.
 
The depth of your ignorance knows no bounds.


Approved MTBE as an oxygenate at the behest of the oil industry. Causing untold ground water contamination and cancer deaths. Could have used non toxic ethanol instead.
Destroyed a river with their own toxic waste dump

Yeah epa and .gov. That’s who we should turn to for advice. Brilliant!
I remember that,
We spent damn near half a billion tax subsided dollars to build an ethanol plant on Coshocton Ohio.

It went tits up, they never even brought it online.
The farmers complained that they didn't get the money they thought they had coming.

They cut their own throats

Wana talk about problems with farms and shit?

Look up what Case Farms in Ohio did,it's a shame.
But hey they had buses to bring all those Mexicans to work.
 
And yet you collect those checks. And bash anyone else who takes one. I don't know what to tell you. ?‍♂️

I see a lot of farmers with your attitude, and it doesn't do well in the public opinion for them. Most people work just as hard, and have a lot less to show for it.
Something that has been missed.
Shitcan all of the subsidies but big gov doesn't get to use the grain commodities
for political leverage.
See Russia, see China.
These are just a couple of examples.
If you aren't farming north of 1k acres you haven't a clue about farming.
The farmers didn't invent the programs big gov did.
If you knew anything about renting ground and or sharcropping you'd know
that sometimes the landlords require you to be enrolled.
It has been a catch 22 since it was invented.
If you want a real windmill to go after I'd look real hard at the Banking bailout.

R
 
Donald Trump’s coronavirus advice just might kill us

In this amazing piece by David Scharfenburg of The Boston Globe we discover that "Covid-19 is a threat not just to our health, but our democracy". Co-pilot to the plague is one DJT.

The gist of the article is that the planet is misguided by Trump's every word, and every word between those words. And they are all bad words. And those words are all-powerful, inescapable, vectors (vectors infinitely more powerful than coronavirus itself) that will deliver (almost) all of humanity to 7th level of hell. Mr Scharfenburg is fantastical in his reprise of the Book of Revelation, which is galloping towards us like the horsemen of the apocalypse, except they are astride an especially wordy equine beast that sports an outrageously quaffed and rigid yellow mane.

Amidst the savage catastrophe he tirelessly rants about, David takes a brief respite when he is comforted by the thought that Fox News gobbling conservatives will suffer an especially dire fate due to the fact that their faculties and immune system are rendered defenseless after being slaughtered by the words and malignant advice of Tucker Carlson and Brett Baier. Yes, Tucker and Brett's words (and the words in between those words) are basically the anti-antidote. Fox newsers will find themselves in the eighth level of hell only to endure a repetitive shelling and flame throwing by the resident 2nd Panzer Division. Serves them right.

The energy that Mr Scharfenburg spent coming up with this thing is surely of an impressively high wattage.

So impressed by this article am I that a likening to a literary legend is called for. It seems to me that right there in the offices, perhaps a stall of the men's lavatory, H.P. Lovecraft's Nyarlathotep was reborn in the lower GI of Mr Scharfenburg. His magical instrument is his keyboard and his readership becomes enveloped in an acrid cloud of Trump derangement syndrome. The end of the world is at hand and upon tomorrow's dawn the fullness of the sun shall be dimmed by a swarm of Covid-19 virions so thick it blocks the sun. All thanks to DJT.

In "The Haunter of the Dark" Lovecraft puts forth Nyarlathotep in the form of a bat-winged monster that cannot stand a scintilla of light. Neither can Scharfenburg.

David Scharfenburg has been sent a link to this thread. I hope he has sufficient energy remaining to engage in a lively discussion.

[email protected]
I’ll bet things would be a lot better, at least in David Scharfenburg’s mind, if Hillary was POTUS. Will this Bull Shit never stop?
 
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The tractors and stuff I have to work on, all have GPS. It is supposed to help with chemical applications. Your not wasting chemicals on double applications. The farmers here are so tight fisted they aren't wasting anything.
 
I'm not trying to bash on anyone,but you can't claim all farmers this and all farmers that.

I was raised on a dairy farm, around here it was considered substantial, to be honest it wasn't.
We only milked about 200 head and leased 1,000 acres
Farmers are and always will be set to fail easily if you don't know how to handle a checkbook.

I watched a special on 60 mins about 8 or 10 years ago.
At first I didn't like them picking on our people until I shut up and listened.
The stuff going on in Arizona is a crock of shit.
For each successful farmer growing cotton, the are at leat 10 scamming the system.

Arizona’s farmers have collected more than $1.1 billion in cotton subsidies, nine times more than the amount paid out for the next highest subsidized crop. In California, where cotton also gets more support than most other crops, farmers received more than $3 billion in cotton aid.

Arizona cotton farmers are financially protected in a way that other farmers aren’t.
The problem goes back early in the last century were as the laws written for them cannot easily be undone

No candidate wants to talk about that during an election.


 
When you can't feed your fuckin family without fear of being shot, blown up, or wrecked, something is bad wrong

That's where I'm at with the Teamsters. I was a child when they brought violence to my family and could do nothing.

I'm not a child any more and I wish a motherfucker would now.......
 
I'm not trying to bash on anyone,but you can't claim all farmers this and all farmers that.

I was raised on a dairy farm, around here it was considered substantial, to be honest it wasn't.
We only milked about 200 head and leased 1,000 acres
Farmers are and always will be set to fail easily if you don't know how to handle a checkbook.

I watched a special on 60 mins about 8 or 10 years ago.
At first I didn't like them picking on our people until I shut up and listened.
The stuff going on in Arizona is a crock of shit.
For each successful farmer growing cotton, the are at leat 10 scamming the system.





No candidate wants to talk about that during an election.


Why don't you come down here and look at what your talking about?
 
Something that has been missed.
Shitcan all of the subsidies but big gov doesn't get to use the grain commodities
for political leverage.
See Russia, see China.
These are just a couple of examples.
If you aren't farming north of 1k acres you haven't a clue about farming.
The farmers didn't invent the programs big gov did.
If you knew anything about renting ground and or sharcropping you'd know
that sometimes the landlords require you to be enrolled.
It has been a catch 22 since it was invented.
If you want a real windmill to go after I'd look real hard at the Banking bailout.

R

Most subsidies function as farm income stabilization. The Department of Agriculture sets a minimum price for a given crop. If market prices rise above that level, farms sell on the open market. If prices fall below, the government reimburses farmers the difference between the market and the floor price."

Explain to me how they use commodities prices for political leverage. And how them paying subsidies is dependent on it. It seems they pay for extra production so they can use it. Seems like quid pro quo to me.

Definitely still in no position to rail against disability if you are collecting checks, being the point. Not going after anything except people being hypocrites. I am fine with helping people who are disabled, helping keep farmers from loosing their farms, and paying for extra production the government uses for political leverage. I think its sad how little some appreciate what is done for them.

If you don't XXXX you don't know XXXX. I hear farmers use this phrase to dismiss everything, as though they are the only one who can posses such knowledge because of their experience inserted in the X's. Its mostly arrogance.
 
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Most subsidies function as farm income stabilization. The Department of Agriculture sets a minimum price for a given crop. If market prices rise above that level, farms sell on the open market. If prices fall below, the government reimburses farmers the difference between the market and the floor price."

Explain to me how they use commodities prices for political leverage. And how them paying subsidies is dependent on it. It seems they pay for extra production so they can use it. Seems like quid pro quo to me.

Definitely still in no position to rail against disability if you are collecting checks, being the point. Not going after anything except people being hypocrites. I am fine with helping people who are disabled, helping keep farmers from loosing their farms, and paying for extra production the government uses for political leverage. I think its sad how little some appreciate what is done for them.

If you don't XXXX you don't know XXXX. I hear farmers use this phrase to dismiss everything, as though they are the only one who can posses such knowledge because of their experience inserted in the X's. Its mostly arrogance.
This is a case study in how the commodities have been manipulated forever.
I don't know your age so I don't know if you lived it.
I don't care if you think it is arrogance.
I shoot long range rifle comps, this doesn't make me a sniper.
Reading about it doesn't either.
A case of until you've walked a 100 miles in their shoes you don't know what you don't know.

R
 
An employee should be able to fire and hire whomever they want. Unions artificially drive up wages and the consumer gets to pay for it.

All the union people I hear about are lazy parasites.
Then you haven things like unions protecting every dirt bag. Like the gm employee smoking weed and drinking during lunch.
And Obama turning bankruptcy law on its face and bonded shareholders getting screwed so the union doesn’t noose their pensions etc

Fuck unions. They are for losers. Just like the democrat party.
Amen!
 
While working in Seattle on a tunnel project the union gave all the members a "LABORS SUPPORT OBUMBA" tee shirt in '08
 
The entire thing started when I queried to a farmer, who was railing against welfare and disability, if he also collected government checks.
This is a case study in how the commodities have been manipulated forever.
I don't know your age so I don't know if you lived it.
I don't care if you think it is arrogance.
I shoot long range rifle comps, this doesn't make me a sniper.
Reading about it doesn't either.
A case of until you've walked a 100 miles in their shoes you don't know what you don't know.

R
That is not a case study. That is an overview. It made absolutely no connection as to how subsidies and crop insurance are screwing farmers, or why the government has to pay subsidies to use commodities.

If the price is high you sell at market value, if over production drives it too low they pay subsidies for lost value. What's the problem? Wait, I bet I can guess. If they did things your way, you assume it would be better for you. Have walked 100 miles in those shoes? No, its just your opinion, you don't know what you don't know.

You think snipers can't, and dont learn anything from non-snipers?

My thinking is correct, it is the very definition of arrogance.


I have cut wheat fields that are damn near 1k acres.
 
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