I’m not sure the 375 is almost obsolete... did Bertram make some brass that was no good?
In the words of forest gump. Its like a box of chocolates you just never know what you will end up with. Biggest problem with aussie brass is it depends on the day if its guna be good. One batch is strong next batch same cartridge different run its weak junk. And of corse its never consistant. A good friend bought 2000 rounds of 7mm wsm after culling he ended up with less the 300 useable cases that has the same h20 for f class needless to say he sold the batch . In our case with the mercenary a huge order and did not get any thing correct length was way off by .030 h20 was off by 25 grains and died on the first shot. but the brass we formed from ironically His manufactured 585 nyatti case has been shot over and over and over again with no issues. Had the brass been made to spects that he agreed in writing to do we would not be having problems. Had he taken care of his mistake again no problems. But its for the best as we gave all business to a US manufactor. His loss and a lesson for us. Funny part is the 15 different cartridges we have had made could have been his products if he had only taken care of his customers
Not sure. Every company has issues sometimes what makes a company good or bad is do they take careof there problems and customer
Agreed. Have 3 shooting buddies that are in the middle of some, not so smooth dealings with RCC right now actually. How they end up handling it will determine if I do business with them going forward.
I was a little disappointed with my RCC brass, was expecting a cnc machined product that wouldn’t require any work on my part. Unfortunately the necks had to be turned and the thickness around the circumference of neck wasn’t very uniform.
Its not always that easy brass can be off. reamers can be off. Go gages can be off. Cut chambers can be off. Best thing is to work off fireformed brass and sized brass and spect out brass before a run is madeI guess I should have bought the brass first then spec’d out the reamer to match it??
I was under the impression that the reamer from precision tool and the brass from rcc were supposed to work together?
I find that rather confusing, whenever our engineers at work send a print to a machine shop the work usually arrives as spec’d. Especially when it’s something spinning really fast. Is it common place for the gunsmithing community to be so sloppy? Especially when you’re basically setting a big explosion off by your face??
No, they usually get cut from the ISN network if they have too many occurrences and we can no longer deal with them.
That’s generally been my experience as well, but blaming the customer was 1 on RCC’s list of who to blame, so I wondered.
I can tell you this much if o.d. and taper and length and ring diamiter and datum is correct it should chamber. If the chamber is cut to spects. if chamber is cut to spects brass is not. If they are both ends of spectrum of sammi datum length. If chamber is the short end of sammi and brass is on long end if sammi it wont chamber. With out chambering deeper or bumping back datum.
I can tell you this much if o.d. and taper and length and ring diamiter and datum is correct it should chamber. If the chamber is cut to spects. if chamber is cut to spects brass is not. If they are both ends of spectrum of sammi datum length. If chamber is the short end of sammi and brass is on long end if sammi it wont chamber. With out chambering deeper or bumping back datum. I know there has been some issues mostly human error and mis communication. But also customer issues and gunsmithing issues. Simply manufactoring brass to be sloppy to chamber to fireform is what this industry is use to. attempting to close that gap and make chamber matched brass is not easy
This is where I get really confused, the reamer specifications are given. (Are you saying the reamer maker is making a substandard product)? Or is the manufacturer of the CNC brass at fault? Obviously there is a disconnect between the two.
I have no idea what went wrong in Manufacturing. Brass could be off and or reamer could be off. And or go gage could be off causing chamber to be off. Thats why everything needs to be spect out. When you are trying to make close tolerance brass if the chamber is ever so slightly off a tight tolerance case will not fit where as lose tolerance Factory brass May fit. Not putting blame anywhere just simply stating stuff needs to be spect out to figure out where the problem is as far as Reamers being off yes it's highly possible I have seen it many a times. A reamer is a manufactured part just like the brass and so is the go gauge.
