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Baltimore tries to ban No Knocks

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    Good.

    WGAF that they might flush some crack down the toilet. Like the WOD does anything but take liberty and treasure from the citizens anyway.
     
    Correction, there’s no law for the blacks of Baltimore. They get popped with a hot gun and plea deal out in 12-18 back on the street.

    If I were to cc there illegally and get popped by a corrupt cop when servicing equipment in that shit hole... 5-10 maybe out in 3-4 on good behavior.

    To the fascists: Don’t throw the racist bull shit at me, that’s fact, prove me wrong

    Since I travel to Md. at times I checked. You have to have the handgun locked in the trunk and the magazine unloaded. If youre (white) and get caught with a loaded magazine you get a year for each bullet loaded.
     
    Mosby is the same utter idiot who completely and totally cocked up the Freddy Gray situation with her ideologically driven agenda.

    Can't believe she's still in office. This is an elected position. AFTER the Freddy Gray shit, the city re-elected her by an overwhelming majority.

    So, the electorate of that city now gets exactly what it asked for. Fuck em
     
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    They elected her because she regularly drops the charges on the brothas. Think about it... it’s like buying votes without money
    Oh, I know why....I was just saying what. And the same thing happened some years ago with Marrion Barry after he was busted for crack. Ran for city council under the agenda of "getting your boys out of Lorton" (Lorton being the DC prison)

    So, the residents of these cities vote their personal preferences and they end up getting the crime ridden dump they asked for.
     
    The mags can be loaded, just not attached to the gun. They should be stored separately from the firearm. The gun has to be case, unloaded and out of reach from the driver.

    But if your white and get caught, they’re throwing the book at you

    Thats not what the Md. State Police told me.
     
    Thats not what the Md. State Police told me.
    Well they’re cops. So.

    Don’t know the law. Under no obligation to know the law.

     
    Well they’re cops. So.

    Don’t know the law. Under no obligation to know the law.


    Interesting. However enough seem to believe it is law that should you get caught it could cost a small fortune in legal fees to get out of it. Ill err on the side of caution. Mostly I prefer to stay the fuck out of commie states.
     
    Interesting. However enough seem to believe it is law that should you get caught it could cost a small fortune in legal fees to get out of it. Ill err on the side of caution. Mostly I prefer to stay the fuck out of commie states.
    That last sentence is the best advice I’ve heard all day.. stay outa commie states.
     
    What do you base that assumption on?

    They knocked on the door, waited announced police, knocked, waited, announced police, then breached the door. Several witnesses corroborated this.

    If they had just breached the door, the surprise would have been so quick and fast at 4 am that no one inside would have had time to grab a gun, and but the boyfriends own admission, he would not have fired if he'd known it was police. So, they no-knock, get inside, announced police and have the whole small apartment secured in less than a few seconds. no one has to fire through a door, no police have to return fire. Could have been much different.


    now, as a general rule, i am against the midnight no-knock warrant BS. lots and lots of innocent people have been killed during them as a mistaken identity wrong house issue.

    if we look at this specific case, and how it went down, if they had no-knocked, its very likely no one would have been hurt or killed.
     
    They knocked on the door, waited announced police, knocked, waited, announced police, then breached the door. Several witnesses corroborated this.

    If they had just breached the door, the surprise would have been so quick and fast at 4 am that no one inside would have had time to grab a gun, and but the boyfriends own admission, he would not have fired if he'd known it was police. So, they no-knock, get inside, announced police and have the whole small apartment secured in less than a few seconds. no one has to fire through a door, no police have to return fire. Could have been much different.


    now, as a general rule, i am against the midnight no-knock warrant BS. lots and lots of innocent people have been killed during them as a mistaken identity wrong house issue.

    if we look at this specific case, and how it went down, if they had no-knocked, its very likely no one would have been hurt or killed.


    If he had a gun and was ready to use it. There is no reason to assume he would not have had it close enough to use it if they did a "no knock." He knew it was the Police just as much as he would have if they no knocked and yelled police. I see no reason to think he is not lying.

    They could have sat outside and waited for him to walk out. Put "free donuts" signs "at the supers apartment" around the complex. Whats up bro, you are under arrest. Many safer ways to go about it.
     
    If he had a gun and was ready to use it. There is no reason to assume he would not have had it close enough to use it if they did a "no knock." He knew it was the Police just as much as he would have if they no knocked and yelled police. I see no reason to think he is not lying.

    They could have sat outside and waited for him to walk out. Put "free donuts" signs "at the supers apartment" around the complex. Whats up bro, you are under arrest. Many safer ways to go about it.

    definitely agree with your points. they should have grabbed both of them out in the open.
     
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    Not long after the Red Flag law was passed in the State of Maryland (like a couple weeks after), in Anne Arundel County a man was gunned down early one morning while standing in his threshold. His sister-in-law filed the Red Flag order, due to a contentious discussion about politics the night before. Sad part was the man was paying for his nieces education and was very involved with his church. No uproar at all.
     
    Not the article I was thinking of, but same incident.

     
    If they had just breached the door, the surprise would have been so quick and fast at 4 am that no one inside would have had time to grab a gun, and but the boyfriends own admission, he would not have fired if he'd known it was police. So, they no-knock, get inside, announced police and have the whole small apartment secured in less than a few seconds. no one has to fire through a door, no police have to return fire. Could have been much different.


    now, as a general rule, i am against the midnight no-knock warrant BS. lots and lots of innocent people have been killed during them as a mistaken identity wrong house issue.

    if we look at this specific case, and how it went down, if they had no-knocked, its very likely no one would have been hurt or killed.

    I think you might want to change your idea of time frames there.
    Some door goes smashing open, you might find a lot of decent folks these days are ready to be slinging lead within several seconds.

    In my opinion, there should not be any no knock warrants unless it is an extreme case and that does NOT include trying to find somebody with something that they haven't paid taxes on that the government won't allow them to pay taxes on...

    I'm also of course totally against our two tiered justice system this whole "perceived a threat" BS.......
     
    They knocked on the door, waited announced police, knocked, waited, announced police, then breached the door. Several witnesses corroborated this.

    If they had just breached the door, the surprise would have been so quick and fast at 4 am that no one inside would have had time to grab a gun, and but the boyfriends own admission, he would not have fired if he'd known it was police. So, they no-knock, get inside, announced police and have the whole small apartment secured in less than a few seconds. no one has to fire through a door, no police have to return fire. Could have been much different.


    now, as a general rule, i am against the midnight no-knock warrant BS. lots and lots of innocent people have been killed during them as a mistaken identity wrong house issue.

    if we look at this specific case, and how it went down, if they had no-knocked, its very likely no one would have been hurt or killed.
    So was the boyfriend who they were looking for or are you suggesting that if they would have no knocked the wrong house once again they would somehow not end up shooting anyone? Have you ever been attacked in your sleep? Have you ever been point man?
     
    Don't see the purpose of the no knock warrant it puts Police at a disadvantage entering into the structure into the line of fire at the get go. Why not wait outside the next morning when the dude walks outside to go somewhere, element of surprise safety increases greatly over entering a structure that is defended and unknown.
     
    Don't see the purpose of the no knock warrant it puts Police at a disadvantage entering into the structure into the line of fire at the get go. Why not wait outside the next morning when the dude walks outside to go somewhere, element of surprise safety increases greatly over entering a structure that is defended and unknown.

    Then they can’t dress up and play ninja.

    Or the dealers might not be able to be tied to the dope. So no confiscating the house etc. besides. One more drug conviction and this war on drugs will be won.


    Conservatives WOD and WOT has destroyed more liberty and taken more treasure than Muhammad or meth crack ever could
     
    I have two friends that are dead as a result of a no-knock raid. Mixed feelings about that tactic.
    My condolences. May I pry as to which side of the door were they?
    That is one thing Leo should take note of. I know of at least one case were the victim of a no knock warrant managed to take out the first officer and was proven innocent.
    When I kicked in doors I didn't have much choice or info. I was dealing with different parameters though. And I wasn’t violating Americans constitutional rights in process.
    the only thing worse than dying on duty is to die on duty while being a enemy of the constitution. I’m sure there will be Leo in red flag states reading this. Don’t wait to long for a retirement package. Especially if you have to sell your soul or violate a oath you took to get there.

    LEO, we the people really need to know were you stand on issues especially when America is so close to being no more. (Especially in small towns and rural areas)

    If America continues down this road, do you want We the people, and the Vets standing shoulder to shoulder with you? Or do you want blue helmets standing behind you?
    yall Leo’s ever notice whenever a country is disarmed that first its the people, then it’s the Leo’s? Or are you naive enough to think the blue helmets will be standing beside you?