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mask wearer's are sheep ??

I don't disagree with anything you said. I'm just curious how any of these (very legitimate) concerns would justify being an asshole to someone working near the entrance of the local supermarket because of my inability to properly escalate a problem up the chain of command.
While yes I dont agree with hassling the poor pawns in this subversion of freedom and liberty, I prefer to go thermonuclear on the executives and politicians. However some of these workers are very nasty, rude, and quite confrontational in response to a simple no, I wont wear a mask, politely put. Hell some dont even ask about the stupid mask, and just go full on purple haired fatty libtard, screeching, and oinking about daring to exercise one’s basic natural right to breathe how their maker or nature intended them to. Those are the ones I dont have any mercy for. Most do just shrug and are just whatever. Some however act like its some holy mission to enforce this mask nonsense. Those types lose any kind of sympathy from me.
 
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Space x just launched 60 starlink satellites. This is the 14th installment which now totals 835 starlink internet satellites and plans to launch another 120 per month.
STARLINK = SKYNET ???
Given their insane advancement in AI learning, screw space x lol, nvidia will become skynet.
 
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I'm lost here. Explain. So my family member HAS to stay in self isolation because others cannot act civil? So my family member cannot support the local economy by going out and shop? And in your mind causing these business to go under and suicides? All because you wearing a mask is too hard for you? Now who is being selfish?
They can get the things they need delivered to them if need be. Dont encroach upon me or others. Wear a mask if you want to, isolate if you want to, but keep your “concerns” off my body and out of my life, and out of my way.
 
There is no in between regarding this issue. You either value individual freedom and the pursuit of happiness, or you are a commie leftist fuck that doesn't deserve to breathe as you want to destroy the greatest country on earth and strip away American families right to life. This is a one or the other issue. Commie or not. I swear some of you would be better off living in China. Fit right in.

Put the petty differences aside. Pick a side @hlee. Which are you. America or commie? I do want you to answer.
Well put
 
this whole “Social” and “we’re all in this together” is a load of crap too.

we are not in this together. At the end of the day the only person looking out for you, is you.
And your close friends and family, their freedoms and rights. Just wanted to add that in. We are all in this together, in a fight for freedom, liberty and the true American way that is decaying thanks to brainless sheep and communist/globalist manipulation. Theres a two sides to every coin. For this one side is submission to the tyranny, the other side is fight for freedom and liberty. If we dont pull together against this and only say im in it for me, we lose.
 
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Please show me one fucking peer reviewed study on the efficacy of the use of masks for prevention of the flu that shows statistical differences. It isn’t out there or it would be every where. The amount of time required to perform such a study on covid 19 hasn’t elapsed yet. Fuck your said “scientific background” and realize that a consensus isn’t science.
If you put something in front of your face when sneezing or coughing you reduce the amount of aerosol (concentration) which "reduces" the likelihood of infection due to the immune response time vs serum viral concentration.
It is a very simple concept. Not once did I state masks will prevent the flu or covid. Transmission will occur no matter what. But keep putting words in my mouth.
Yes all doctors and scientists are stupid and we should take advice from a hill billy, whom has 5 teeth and a sister wife with inbred children. Continue on and may hooked on phonics provide you with the reading comprehension you desperately require.
 
Maybe the world (not physically) did end in 2012. Shit hasn't felt the same since then, and certainly we wouldn't have put up with this communistic, anti-American bullshit prior to this.
 
If you put something in front of your face when sneezing or coughing you reduce the amount of aerosol (concentration) which "reduces" the likelihood of infection due to the immune response time vs serum viral concentration.
It is a very simple concept. Not once did I state masks will prevent the flu or covid. Transmission will occur no matter what. But keep putting words in my mouth.
Yes all doctors and scientists are stupid and we should take advice from a hill billy, whom has 5 teeth and a sister wife with inbred children. Continue on and may hooked on phonics provide you with the reading comprehension you desperately require.
That hillbilly might know more about natural medicine than any doctor that was taught with Rockefeller money to treat the effect instead of the cause with pills made from ..... wait for it.... oil byproducts
 
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That hillbilly might know more about natural medicine than any doctor that was taught with Rockefeller money to treat the effect instead of the cause with pills made from ..... wait for it.... oil byproducts

Made from a variety of different sources, largely derived from the extracts of plants or synthesized in the lab using petroleum and non-petroleum precursors and intermediates.
Medical treatment and drug advancement for symptoms and cures are largely performed by wait for it....Doctors and Scientists.
 
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Made from a variety of different sources, largely derived from the extracts of plants or synthesized in the lab using petroleum and non-petroleum precursors and intermediates.
Medical treatment and drug advancement for symptoms and cures are largely performed by wait for it....Doctors and Scientists.
You mean the same doctors, and scientists that argue one can change their gender or be one of 50+ genders? That force the tranny crap on children?
 
Made from a variety of different sources, largely derived from the extracts of plants or synthesized in the lab using petroleum and non-petroleum precursors and intermediates.
Medical treatment and drug advancement for symptoms and cures are largely performed by wait for it....Doctors and Scientists.
Yes but once again it’s my choice weather I go to a witch doctor, md doctor, or naturalist.
There is a place for md medicine but the final decision is to the individual. Science isn’t fact and should not be represented as such.
 
You mean the same doctors, and scientists that argue one can change their gender or be one of 50+ genders? That force the tranny crap on children?
That is a political assertion not a scientific one. Gender is a pretty undeniable biological fact.
 
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That is a political assertion not a scientific one. Gender is a pretty undeniable biological fact.
Same with forcing the healthy to wear unhealthy masks. All political, zero fact, just like the tranny and multiple gender nonsense.
 
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Yes but once again it’s my choice weather I go to a witch doctor, md doctor, or naturalist.
There is a place for md medicine but the final decision is to the individual. Science isn’t fact and should not be represented as such.
Your health, your choice. Did I ever state anything different? Scientific facts do exist and should be presented as such. A covering blocking some material mist is common sense. This is why tissues are used, hand over the face etc.. Did not state it prevents transmission.
 
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Your health, your choice. Did I ever state anything different? Scientific facts do exist and should be presented as such. A covering blocking some material mist is common sense. This is why tissues are used, hand over the face etc.. Did not state it prevents transmission.
I know you didn’t. I felt clarification was needed. Science has proven stuff.. science Has also made a fool of itself plenty too.
 
Your health, your choice. Did I ever state anything different? Scientific facts do exist and should be presented as such. A covering blocking some material mist is common sense. This is why tissues are used, hand over the face etc.. Did not state it prevents transmission.
Then why submit to wearing them if they dont prevent transmission. Simply just a huge sign saying, Im a submissive sheep. One uses a tissue to sneeze, or in some cases cough, not to walk around with one constantly held over your face.
 
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Same with forcing the healthy to wear unhealthy masks. All political, zero fact, just like the tranny and multiple gender nonsense.
Agreed, the studies are unable to statistically validate efficacy for masks against viral transmission outcomes. Did I ever dispute that? No.
 
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Agreed, the studies are unable to statistically validate efficacy for masks against viral transmission outcomes. Did I ever dispute that? No.
Then the reason to follow mask mandates? None? Alright then.
 
I know you didn’t. I felt clarification was needed. Science has proven stuff.. science Has also made a fool of itself plenty too.
Yes it has. It was pretty funny looking back on the early chemical and physical concepts.
 
Then the reason to follow mask mandates? None? Alright then.
I guess it depends on what state you're in but some of the mandates have fines associated with them. A fair amount of stores won't allow you in their place of business.
You act as if I am a proponent of these mandates, look at my earlier posts. I am quite clear.
 
Are you any good with chemistry?
Depends. I am a research chemist however product development is more mixology and testing since the additive manufacturers do not disclose the full chemical make-up of their products which is annoying.
I forgot a lot of the crap from college.
 
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Depends. I am a research chemist however product development is more mixology and testing since the additive manufacturers do not disclose the full chemical make-up of their products which is annoying.
I forgot a lot of the crap from college.
I’m gonna drop you a pm when I get a chance if ya don’t mind.
 
Do you actually believe the garbage coming out of your open sepulchre? Are you actually that fucking dumb?
Whoa, easy with the big words Karen, while they let us know how smart and important you are, you gotta dumb it down for us simple country folk.

Exactly which of your rights is being infringed upon?
 
Um
Freedom of association
Freedom of religion
Freedom of travel
Etc etc

Not to mention restricting and shutting down businesses.

Another dense one is upon us
And the freedom to make your own medical decisions..
To be free from unlawful arrests
Many court’s denying rights to due process or the quick and speedy part of a trial..
 
Awesome!

And @Maggot... masks have their place. Noone questions wearing one in a hospital, I don't think. But when retards in a restaurant tell you that you don't need one at a table, but need one to walk the 30 feet to a table... it's retarded.

Most mask-wearers are compliant retards who think they are saving the world by virtue-signaling with their masks.

I refuse to wear one. But were I to go into an elder care facility? I would wear one. I won't wear one into a store. But if I went to the homes of a friends elderly parents... and they asked. I would wear one.

Most mask-wearing is virtue-signaling retardation.

SIrhr

Opinions are like assholes :). I wear one, but then my wife is an ICU nurse taking care of covid patients nearly every day she works. Never know when I'll turn up positive. I'll wear one to protect others. I'd hate to be the one that infected my elderly neighbors.
 
If you put something in front of your face when sneezing or coughing you reduce the amount of aerosol (concentration) which "reduces" the likelihood of infection due to the immune response time vs serum viral concentration.
It is a very simple concept. Not once did I state masks will prevent the flu or covid. Transmission will occur no matter what. But keep putting words in my mouth.
Yes all doctors and scientists are stupid and we should take advice from a hill billy, whom has 5 teeth and a sister wife with inbred children. Continue on and may hooked on phonics provide you with the reading comprehension you desperately require.

Its called cover your mouth when you sneeze or cough.

You pontificate while there are links to stuff written by the scientist that are telling you to wear a mask. That said "masks are used in a clinical environment to make workers feel better, but they have no real effect. Stuff reviewed by a doctor who tells us HQ is too dangerous for SARS-COVID2, but called it a miracle drug for SARS-COVID, and called it relatively safe, and cheap.

You are spending too much time reading this thread and formulating bullshit arguments. Go read the sources. Realize you are wrong. Quit drinking the cool aide and lets get on with life. Its the worst cool aide ever and everyone keeps plugging their nose and drinking it because they don't want to admit they were fooled.

Even with the bulshit death reporting we have reached a death rate of .18% That is the flu. If they were not reporting everyone they test after and claim a positive on on for COVID. Who knows how low that number would be by now.
 
Um
Freedom of association
Freedom of religion
Freedom of travel
Etc etc

Not to mention restricting and shutting down businesses.

Another dense one is upon us
Huh, got on a plane last week, no problem, went to the grocery store for food, no problem, had lunch at the local stop, no problem, had a pint at the local pub, no problem... I’ve done all these things in the last week, WTF are you talking about?

What was, was a tragedy, but we’re not talking about that.

We’re discussing what rights of yours are being infringed upon by being expected to wear a mask in these places you mention?
 
Opinions are like assholes :). I wear one, but then my wife is an ICU nurse taking care of covid patients nearly every day she works. Never know when I'll turn up positive. I'll wear one to protect others. I'd hate to be the one that infected my elderly neighbors.

According to the Center telling us to wear masks. They don't do anything.
 
Huh, got on a plane last week, no problem, went to the grocery store for food, no problem, had lunch at the local stop, no problem, had a pint at the local pub, no problem... I’ve done all these things in the last week, WTF are talking about?

What was, was a tragedy, but we’re not talking about that.

We,re discussing what rights of yours are being infringed upon by being expected to wear a mask in these places you mention?
Your an idiot.

quarantines when traveling
Not allowed to go to church
Can’t go to restaurants before and now you can’t get in because of occupancy restrictions.

Fuck you and the people like you
 
Huh, got on a plane last week, no problem, went to the grocery store for food, no problem, had lunch at the local stop, no problem, had a pint at the local pub, no problem... I’ve done all these things in the last week, WTF are talking about?

What was, was a tragedy, but we’re not talking about that.

We,re discussing what rights of yours are being infringed upon by being expected to wear a mask in these places you mention?

Well you see in this country we are not subject to laws made by executive agencies. In fact it is strictly forbidden by our constitution. Laws must be passed through the legislative branch of government. So my first right that is being trampled is my right to representation in the law making body of my state. 2 weeks to flatten the curve, turns into 7 months and counting of marshall law.
 
Huh, got on a plane last week, no problem, went to the grocery store for food, no problem, had lunch at the local stop, no problem, had a pint at the local pub, no problem... I’ve done all these things in the last week, WTF are you talking about?

What was, was a tragedy, but we’re not talking about that.

We’re discussing what rights of yours are being infringed upon by being expected to wear a mask in these places you mention?
How’d you drink a pint while wearing a mask?
 
Its called cover your mouth when you sneeze or cough.

You pontificate while there are links to stuff written by the scientist that are telling you to wear a mask. That said "masks are used in a clinical environment to make workers feel better, but they have no real effect. Stuff reviewed by a doctor who tells us HQ is too dangerous for SARS-COVID2, but called it a miracle drug for SARS-COVID, and called it relatively safe, and cheap.

You are spending too much time reading this thread and formulating bullshit arguments. Go read the sources. Realize you are wrong. Quit drinking the cool aide and lets get on with life. Its the worst cool aide ever and everyone keeps plugging their nose and drinking it because they don't want to admit they were fooled.

Even with the bulshit death reporting we have reached a death rate of .18% That is the flu. If they were not reporting everyone they test after and claim a positive on on for COVID. Who knows how low that number would be by now.
I have read plenty, and I am not arguing for mask usage but to say they have absolutely no effect is absolutely %100 idiotic. A piece of paper over your nose has an affect.
The papers contradict each other with some papers citing a positive outcome and others citing no net positive outcome. The issue with most if not all the studies is they occur in a dynamic setting with a considerable number of uncontrollable variables which leads to inconclusive studies.
Not only that, but a large number of studies have low participation which statistically invalidates most of the testing as it does not represent the mean.
Please cite which of my arguments is bs as you say.
 
Your an idiot.

quarantines when traveling
Not allowed to go to church
Can’t go to restaurants before and now you can’t get in because of occupancy restrictions.

Fuck you and the people like you

Maybe you should learn what your actual rights as a citizen are...😂
I’ll give you a hint, freedom from inconvenience is not one of them....
 
I had to go into the hospital for hip replacement. In order to do that I had to wear a mask. Does that make me a sheeple? (I have my popcorn salted and buttered, lay on McDuff) Should I have refused and continued to suffer? Should you get a life. We do what we have to do, sometimes its not what we wish. We need to learn to pick our battles.
No it doesn’t make you a sheep and he isn’t calling you one, your just missing the point is all
 
I have read plenty, and I am not arguing for mask usage but to say they have absolutely no effect is absolutely %100 idiotic. A piece of paper over your nose has an affect.
The papers contradict each other with some papers citing a positive outcome and others citing no net positive outcome. The issue with most if not all the studies is they occur in a dynamic setting with a considerable number of uncontrollable variables which leads to inconclusive studies.
Not only that, but a large number of studies have low participation which statistically invalidates most of the testing as it does not represent the mean.
Please cite which of my arguments is bs as you say.

Show me a study sighting a positive outcome.
 
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Do the research yourself, there was just a study that summarized and overviewed most of the research out there....Google it.

You are confused. You keep calling "articles" "studies" and all sorts of other nonsense. When an article sights another, that sights another article for it scientific source. You should be suspicious. Link the article, lets see what you have.

Change my mind. I showed you mine. Lets see yours.
 
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I'm lost here. Explain. So my family member HAS to stay in self isolation because others cannot act civil? So my family member cannot support the local economy by going out and shop? And in your mind causing these business to go under and suicides? All because you wearing a mask is too hard for you? Now who is being selfish?
No, it's really quite simple. It is not my job to protect you. Just like your refusal to pay for my personal security detail.

The boy in the bubble, not my job to protect them. People with AIDS... Not my job to protect them. People that have immune deficiency systems due to cancer, not my job to take care of them.

If those that are susceptible to a deadly disease want to go out in public... Their choice, I do not care.

You, your daughter, your grandparents... I really don't care if you get sick and die... Not my problem. Take care of yourself.

Now, I'll change my mind when people that try to shame me for not wearing a mask freely paid for mine security detail to follow me around as I see fit dot-dot. Remember, it's your job to protect me ... Now just pay for it... or shut the fuk up with your emotional it's about the kids, it's about the family family bullshit.
 
If you put something in front of your face when sneezing or coughing you reduce the amount of aerosol (concentration) which "reduces" the likelihood of infection due to the immune response time vs serum viral concentration.
It is a very simple concept. Not once did I state masks will prevent the flu or covid. Transmission will occur no matter what. But keep putting words in my mouth.
Yes all doctors and scientists are stupid and we should take advice from a hill billy, whom has 5 teeth and a sister wife with inbred children. Continue on and may hooked on phonics provide you with the reading comprehension you desperately require.
Keep it up GED.
 
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You are confused. You keep calling "articles" "studies" and all sorts of other nonsense. When an article sights another, that sights another article for it scientific source. You should be suspicious. Link the article, lets see what you have.

Change my mind. I showed you mine. Lets see yours.
I am not trying to change your mind. You have your opinion and I have mine which are pretty close in line with each other. Articles reference studies all the time how is that nonsense? Most of the time they link the study so the viewer can read them on their own...I think you may be the confused one.
This isnt the one I am referring to but it isthe one I found with a quick Google search. Have at it.