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mask wearer's are sheep ??

Social media is only going to hide these studies. We are back 200 years and paper and ink is proving why its so important. I see bulletin boards everywhere. I am sure many store owners would love to have some of this information on hand. They sure aren't getting it from their media feed.
 
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Well, if thats what you think. Control scheme or no, i made up my own individual mind. I aint trying to push jack shit on people who dont wear them or want to fight that "battle".

The other aspect is of way further concern. The issue with shutting down the economy, hurting small businesses, while also giving a pass to large corp etc. Then of course bailing them out while small business fails.

To me anyways, that issue and the mask issue are only somewhat related. If masks are so effective then the irreversible damage could have been avoided? Masks were bad, until they werent. Well, they were bad until all the n95s were gone...then they were good! :)

Where the fk are all the n95 masks?
 
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It’s not about how effective the mask are, it’s about how effective the control scheme is...

apparently it’s pretty damn effective, it has turned people on the left and right into effective government rule enforcement agents against the people who don’t wear masks.
Absolutely. Government snitches. Wait until the penalty is prison or death. The snitches will really be aggressive then. These people are enemies as well. History proves it.
 
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Private bakery business doesnt make a cake.

*applause, fkn hell yes that is their right*

Private grocery business says you will wear mask.

*screeching, oh hell no that infringes on my rights!*
 
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Private bakery business doesnt make a cake.

*applause, fkn hell yes that is their right*

Private grocery business says you will wear mask.

*screeching, oh hell no that infringes on my rights!*
One is being forced by penalty of a prison sentence if they are even allowed to open their business in the first place at a penalty of a prison sentence. How is this so hard to grasp.

I give up. Freedom is hard for some people. Responsibility and Accountability are hard to handle for some. It's much easier to be told what to do, I mean you don't even have to think. From the responses of many in this thread, thinking was never a strong suit anyhow. Welcome to the new America.
 
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Haha this is too funny, wearing a mask isn’t an infringement on your rights (wether it works or not) if anything people should see it as Americans coming together, doing their individual part to solve a collective problem. The “you can’t make Karen’s” are simply self centered snowflakes ❄
(Go ahead, be triggered)
 
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Private grocery business says you will wear mask.
It’s not that. It’s .gov forcing business to enforce masking and threatening fines and shut downs if they don’t.

Along with shutting down what they deem “non essential” and limiting stores/restaurants etc to 24 percent capacity
 
Haha this is too funny, wearing a mask isn’t an infringement on your rights (wether it works or not) if anything people should see it as Americans coming together, doing their individual part to solve a collective problem. The “you can’t make Karen’s” are simply self centered snowflakes ❄
(Go ahead, be triggered)
Coming together to play dress up make believe. That’s all the mask wearing is. It’s virtue signaling. It’s to make stupid people FEEL better. It’s psychological at best.

It is a tool to control. Its a tool to push conformity without rationalization. Do as I say sheep or else. Why do you think the “elites” get caught without them? These low post trolls are coming out in droves. Election year. 😂
 
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I'm lost here. Explain. So my family member HAS to stay in self isolation because others cannot act civil? So my family member cannot support the local economy by going out and shop? And in your mind causing these business to go under and suicides? All because you wearing a mask is too hard for you? Now who is being selfish?

Businesses are going under and owners committing suicide because their lives have been ruined by a government that closed them down by executive fiat.

Has nothing to do with your family members not being able to patronize their business.

To answer your question, yes. A resounding yes. The only person responsible for your safety, is you. If your relatives have to go to Applebee's so bad they're willing to risk contracting a virus they believe may kill them if they go out, that's on them.

It's not my job to shield you or your family from the dangers of life and you don't get to preempt my individual freedom under the auspices of keeping your family safe.

Bottom line. If you're worried about it, stay home, counting on the whole of society to protect you is foolish, and I'm being kind with my word choice there.
 
Just had to add that I know lots of professionals who are wearing masks right now and not one of them are a "sheep"....cops, firefighters, paramedics, technicians where I work and the places I go. Not one is a sheep.

Just doing the best they can and following the rules and trying to keep others safe in case they are infected/contagious without symptoms. That and it's required here so if we want to keep our jobs (I have been unemployed for 6 months and I'm out of money) then we wear the fucking masks. Big. Fucking. Deal.

VooDoo
 
Businesses are going under and owners committing suicide because their lives have been ruined by a government that closed them down by executive fiat.

Has nothing to do with your family members not being able to patronize their business.

To answer your question, yes. A resounding yes. The only person responsible for your safety, is you. If your relatives have to go to Applebee's so bad they're willing to risk contracting a virus they believe may kill them if they go out, that's on them.

It's not my job to shield you or your family from the dangers of life and you don't get to preempt my individual freedom under the auspices of keeping your family safe.

Bottom line. If you're worried about it, stay home, counting on the whole of society to protect you is foolish, and I'm being kind with my word choice there.
This looks like a well rounded set of statements.
I'll call it the water.
So hard to make someone drink.

R
 
It’s all fun and games till the man with the cure tells you the only way to spread the gov required “cure” is through sex with your wife and daughter(s). The scary part is I could make more of a scientific case for that then I can a mask. Mask actually lowers crowd immunity. People are doing there civic duty by not wearing a mask.. how bout them apples.
 
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Just had to add that I know lots of professionals who are wearing masks right now and not one of them are a "sheep"....cops, firefighters, paramedics, technicians where I work and the places I go. Not one is a sheep.

Just doing the best they can and following the rules and trying to keep others safe in case they are infected/contagious without symptoms. That and it's required here so if we want to keep our jobs (I have been unemployed for 6 months and I'm out of money) then we wear the fucking masks. Big. Fucking. Deal.

VooDoo


They are ordered........for the most part.
 
Haha this is too funny, wearing a mask isn’t an infringement on your rights (wether it works or not) if anything people should see it as Americans coming together, doing their individual part to solve a collective problem. The “you can’t make Karen’s” are simply self centered snowflakes ❄
(Go ahead, be triggered)

Justin Trudeau? Is that you?

Does your mom know you are on a firearms site?

Anyone ever tell you you look like Fidel?
 
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It’s all fun and games till the man with the cure tells you the only way to spread the gov required “cure” is through sex with your wife and daughter(s). The scary part is I could make more of a scientific case for that then I can a mask. Mask actually lowers crowd immunity. People are doing there civic duty by not wearing a mask.. how bout them apples.
Sorry, if immunity truly worked, the flu would have been gone a long long time ago. Not arguing anything else. You could say, the cells developed through infection may help with combating the virus and its multiple strains. That would be more accurate.
 
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Sorry, if immunity truly worked, the flu would have been gone a long long time ago. Not arguing anything else. You could say, the cells developed through infection may help with combating the virus and its multiple strains. That would be more accurate.

Virus mutate.

Guess what.

We will never cure flu.

We will never cure the common cold.

We will never cure cancer.

Its nature, Its Darwin, the rapidity with which simple organisms adapt compared to more complex ensures we are always under attack.

Think of that and feel comfort in the donning of a face tissue.

The sound track to success.....



Im not advocating recklessness but I am all for stay calm and carry on.

In the end humanity finds a way.
 
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Coming together to play dress up make believe. That’s all the mask wearing is. It’s virtue signaling. It’s to make stupid people FEEL better. It’s psychological at best.

It is a tool to control. Its a tool to push conformity without rationalization. Do as I say sheep or else. Why do you think the “elites” get caught without them? These low post trolls are coming out in droves. Election year. 😂
it’s a tool for control? Hardly... What’s a mask stopped you from doing? there’s been a long standing “policy” of “no shirt, no shoes, no service” are you being controlled? Has your liberty been infringed upon? No, you act like an adult and put your pants before you go to the grocery store...

These are attempts, to help a highly unprepared population... limited as they may be.

Just because someone is a supposed “elite” doesn’t mean they’re not a moron. That’s like taking political advice from some idiot who plays in the NFL

It shouldn’t be a political concept, and sadly it’s been made into one.

Social responsibility is thinking beyond yourself
 
Virus mutate.

Guess what.

We will never cure flu.

We will never cure the common cold.

We will never cure cancer.

Its nature, Its Darwin, the rapidity with which simple organisms adapt compared to more complex ensures we are always under attack.

Think of that and feel comfort in the donning of a face tissue.

The sound track to success.....



Im not advocating recklessness but I am all for stay calm and carry on.

Agreed, but the whole premise of actively spreading it to develop immunity to something that will and has mutated is asinine. Cells can be recruited to combat the virus but it does not provide immunity for all the strains of the virus. Again, only arguing that point not face diapers.
 
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Agreed, but the whole premise of actively spreading it to develop immunity to something that will and has mutated is asinine. Cells can be recruited to combat the virus but it does not provide immunity for all the strains of the virus. Again, only arguing that point not face diapers.


Dude than we shouldnt ever leave our houses.

Dangers abound.

The stats of this one are at the known level that we have to unwind from our fetal position and carry on.
 
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What a sad world you live in Lawn. If helping your fellow person out is beneath you, that says a lot about who you are a a human.

As for businesses going under, most of the ones I've seen here in the DC area were ones that were in trouble already. And who to say if COVID didn't happen, they would have been alright anyway? Business 101 is don't overextend and be ready for when the economy takes a hit. I'm almost 50 and I've lost count on how many recessions and other hits to the economy we've had in our life time. And you need to be ready for when since they are hard to predict. If you cannot handle a few weeks then how are you supposed to survive a recession that can take a year or more to recover from???
 
Sorry, if immunity truly worked, the flu would have been gone a long long time ago. Not arguing anything else. You could say, the cells developed through infection may help with combating the virus and its multiple strains. That would be more accurate.
But sex could transmit a cure..
 
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Dude than we shouldnt ever leave our houses.

Dangers abound.

The stats of this one are at the known level that we have to unwind from our fetal position and carry on.
Why? I said nothing about leaving ones house only the herd immunity concept in general is bs for mutating viruses.
We only live once and it is a short time on earth, go live.
 
A video representation of the effectiveness of cloth masks:

As 99% of the folks I see are wearing these.
Didn't know they included the power of Chi.

R
 
But what level of penetration is needed for transmission? A study needs done, Wade can volunteer. I heard he likes a good pegging.
Quantative studies must be done comparing depth of penetration, cyclic pattern and porn preferences as relating to transmission rate. I think a gov grant is in order?
 
Quantative studies must be done comparing depth of penetration, cyclic pattern and porn preferences as relating to transmission rate. I think a gov grant is in order?
My tax dollars have to go toward something so why not. A second grant can be issued for the use of lube to help propagate transmission. Separate study though, we do not want to introduce too many variables.
 
What a sad world you live in Lawn. If helping your fellow person out is beneath you, that says a lot about who you are a a human.

As for businesses going under, most of the ones I've seen here in the DC area were ones that were in trouble already. And who to say if COVID didn't happen, they would have been alright anyway? Business 101 is don't overextend and be ready for when the economy takes a hit. I'm almost 50 and I've lost count on how many recessions and other hits to the economy we've had in our life time. And you need to be ready for when since they are hard to predict. If you cannot handle a few weeks then how are you supposed to survive a recession that can take a year or more to recover from???

Ones use of placebos doest effect other people.
 
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it’s a tool for control? Hardly... What’s a mask stopped you from doing? there’s been a long standing “policy” of “no shirt, no shoes, no service” are you being controlled? Has your liberty been infringed upon? No, you act like an adult and put your pants before you go to the grocery store...

These are attempts, to help a highly unprepared population... limited as they may be.

Just because someone is a supposed “elite” doesn’t mean they’re not a moron. That’s like taking political advice from some idiot who plays in the NFL

It shouldn’t be a political concept, and sadly it’s been made into one.

Social responsibility is thinking beyond yourself
Just the opposite is reality. I am thinking of others. All should be free from tyranny. This is the toughest stance today as many such as yourself are against freedom. Yet here I am. I have been fighting for EVERYONE since this bullshit has started and I dont mean typing in here.

You are thinking of what is easiest for you. All should be slaves. Somehow you convinced yourself that your cowardice, laziness, and inaction is somehow thoughtful, considerate, and virtuous. How convenient.
 
Absolutely correct @supercorndogs. Anyone with a computer, a little bit if time, and the willingness to find truth can dig into the CDC and WHO and all their reports and the studies they cite and can call bullshit on their recommendations. The real science is exactly opposite of what the recommendations are. Any “science” coming from a leftist is not science at all. It’s nothing more than lies to push communism. The who and the cdc are corrupt. They cannot be trusted. Hell the cdc has released reports in june saying masks are completely worthless. June. They cite many RTC’s.

common sense can go a long way as well. Draw a line on the ground 6’ in front of you. Take1 step forward and you die. Put a handkerchief in front of your mouth. Pull it down and you die. Think about that for a minute and if you have common sense then youcan understand the bullshit. Black plague and the spanish flu were pandemics. This is a scam. I’m bowing out of this thread. I step away just a little bit more saddened and embarrassed at the men we have today. Sheep led to their slaughter.
 
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Haha this is too funny, wearing a mask isn’t an infringement on your rights (wether it works or not) if anything people should see it as Americans coming together, doing their individual part to solve a collective problem. The “you can’t make Karen’s” are simply self centered snowflakes ❄
(Go ahead, be triggered)
Do you actually believe the garbage coming out of your open sepulchre? Are you actually that fucking dumb?
 
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Your comment make it seem like you are saying the article is bull shit. And anyone can get on CDC and WHO sights and debunk it. I assume thats not what you mean. Since it links to much of the information you are talking about.

Anyone with a computer, a little bit if time, and the willingness to find truth can dig into the CDC and WHO and all their reports and the studies they cite and can call bullshit on their recommendations. The real science is exactly opposite of what the recommendations are. Any “science” coming from a leftist is not science at all. It’s nothing more than lies to push communism. The who and the cdc are corrupt. They cannot be trusted. Hell the cdc has released reports in june saying masks are completely worthless. June. They cite many RTC’s.

common sense can go a long way as well. Draw a line on the ground 6’ in front of you. Take1 step forward and you die. Put a handkerchief in front of your mouth. Pull it down and you die. Think about that for a minute and if you have common sense then youcan understand the bullshit. Black plague and the spanish flu were pandemics. This is a scam.
 
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Do you actually believe the garbage coming out of your open sepulchre? Are you actually that fucking dumb?
Sepulchre?
1 : a place of burial : tomb. 2 : a receptacle for religious relics especially in an altar. sepulchre. verb. variants: or sepulcher.
 
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this whole “Social” and “we’re all in this together” is a load of crap too.

we are not in this together. At the end of the day the only person looking out for you, is you.

With that attitude it is no wonder your sex life consists of going to a gun board and trying to get others to talk about their sex life.
 
Your comment make it seem like you are saying the article is bull shit. And anyone can get on CDC and WHO sights and debunk it. I assume thats not what you mean. Since it links to much of the information you are talking about.
You are correct. I’m agreeing with you. I will edit my post to avoid the confusion.
 
this whole “Social” and “we’re all in this together” is a load of crap too.

we are not in this together. At the end of the day the only person looking out for you, is you.


Didnt you wathc the video of all the Hollywood beautiful types singing "Imagine" in their mansions?

What do you mean not in it together?
 
So as long as everyone conforms its all good?

This is not freedom.

Nor should freedom be negligently dangerous or inconsiderate of others.

but.....

this Plandemic has not exhibited an existence that requires the "New Norm" we are expected to accept.
Just baaah baaah baah along, as the wolf leads us to the boxcars, what liberals and scamdemic supporters want. Fuck that, fuck mask mandates, fuck distancing nonsense, and fuck all these idiotic unConstitutional “mandates” that are costing people’s livelihoods, freedoms, lives and prosperity. All over a slightly stronger cold virus. Jesus christ what the fuck has happened to this country, in the 90’s we wouldve told the libtards and these paid off “scientists” to go fuck themselves with a barbwire baseball bat.
 
What a sad world you live in Lawn. If helping your fellow person out is beneath you, that says a lot about who you are a a human.

It is a sad world. It used to be a great place. Now it's full of dipshits that won't accept any personal responsibility for their actions, so they vote for anybody willing to put forth a law or 'executive order' that makes their problem somebody else's fault.

I help people out all the time, I never said it was beneath me. Quit pretending you know anything about me like we've been pals since high school or something. You presume much, and know little.

I don't see relinquishing elements of my individual freedom so all the old and feeble can pretend there isn't a virus floating around that might kill them as just, fair, or legal. If you don't like it, guess what? IDGAF.

I'm just stating the obvious which leftys love to ignore. Applebee's isn't critical. Neither are malls, movie theaters, even Thanksgiving dinner... Might wanna skip it this year if you're in an at risk category. Or don't. That's the beauty of America, we all get to decide for ourselves. You do NOT decide for ME.

This is a communist/socialist policy, make the many responsible for the health and we'll being of the few.

Maybe next year we'll have to pay for their medical expenses too! Ya know, cause they can't work cause of Covid so everyone with an essential trade gets an 80% tax bracket next year so the medical costs of the feeble and 'non critical' jobs have their costs covered.

People like you make me laugh. You try to bullshit me and make me feel guilty for managing my own risk and not worrying about yours. 'Its just a small inconvenience' you say, as though the only damage being done are people's tempers about wearing a mask.

You ignore the MILLIONS of people out of work, with no healthcare and benefits, all so we can supposedly protect the 2% of the population most vulnerable.

For people who squawk about 'the greater good' you sure are willing to destroy lots of lives to accomplish it along the way.

I think we'll just agree to disagree.
 
it’s a tool for control? Hardly... What’s a mask stopped you from doing? there’s been a long standing “policy” of “no shirt, no shoes, no service” are you being controlled? Has your liberty been infringed upon? No, you act like an adult and put your pants before you go to the grocery stor

Yet the oligarchy doesn’t do the masks or social distancing.
 
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I am in the same boat. Keep your family safe. Ignore the idiots, most of them do not have a scientific background.
Please show me one fucking peer reviewed study on the efficacy of the use of masks for prevention of the flu that shows statistical differences. It isn’t out there or it would be every where. The amount of time required to perform such a study on covid 19 hasn’t elapsed yet. Fuck your said “scientific background” and realize that a consensus isn’t science.
 
Can anyone provide a legit number for covid deaths?
This is a clue ^^^.
Essential businesses, strange they include all the big players, read big contributors, in retail.
One would have to be willfully blind to not see the bias in the "rules".
Example; Safe at walmart, people actually have videos on youtube of the disgusting
behavior/people and potentially 500 hundred of them, not safe at the local mom and pop with 5 people.
I accidentally caught some NFL last night.
Players without masks, refs and sidelines all masked up, LOL.
See anything strange about this? ^^^
There are clues all around.
If only one is willing to see...


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Its a miracle! Ever since the democrats trotted out cv19 there wasnt a single death from: alcohol poisoning, heart attack, cancer, pneumonia, pantyfa, drug cartels, illegal drunk drivers, husbands that came home early, diabetes, etc.
 
Please show me one fucking peer reviewed study on the efficacy of the use of masks for prevention of the flu that shows statistical differences. It isn’t out there or it would be every where. The amount of time required to perform such a study on covid 19 hasn’t elapsed yet. Fuck your said “scientific background” and realize that a consensus isn’t science.
There isnt any such study. It was just wear masks sheep, and fuck science and common sense. This was nothing but a test to see how gullible, and compliant the population is to fear mongering, and based on what Ive seen. More loss of rights, freedoms and liberties will be had “for your safety”.