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Why Mask Wearing is my Civic Duty

#401
Okay. Open season on bitches

Just sayin'.
lariat said:
Evidently not, you keep responding to the bait that gets thrown out.

At some point you two/three should figure out that not only are you having your ideas seriously confronted you’re also being toyed with.
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I'm seriously wondering if this ain't the same fuck.

If not: it takes a village.

For the kids.
 
#402
AngryKoala said:
New game:
Have to maintain an erection after chugging green nyquil, eating salt peter with pants down in 0 degree weather....no porn...erection must be maintained for 5 minutes.

Winner gets to bang Jenna Haze
Loser has to eat out Nancy Pelosi while getting pegged in the pooper from "Michelle"Obama.
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Did someone say Jenna Haze?
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#405
lariat said:
Evidently not, you keep responding to the bait that gets thrown out.
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Yeah, ok, I get it. You think you know my thoughts better than me. Gotcha. Now the simple act of responding means whatever you want it to mean.

Keep piling on, mob... It's the internet, and I don't care. Here's another thought: I find you guys, who are getting your panties in a wad over a reasonably expressed personal belief, amusing.

If you dont want to wear a mask, that's perfectly cool. But, on the other hand, you're a loser if you have a problem with someone who wants to wear one. They aren't stepping on your right. They are just exercising their own. Live and let live, or... you guessed it... fuck right off.

Btw, if you target me in a comment, I'll probably respond, especially if you twist and contort and misrepresent me. It's my nature. Kinda like Trump ;-)
 
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lariat said:
Evidently not, you keep responding to the bait that gets thrown out.

At some point you two/three should figure out that not only are you having your ideas seriously confronted you’re also being toyed with.
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Praetorian_6 said:
Yeah, ok, I get it. You think you know my thoughts better than me. Gotcha. Now the simple act of responding means whatever you want it to mean.

Keep piling on, mob... It's the internet, and I don't care. Here's another thought: I find you guys getting your panties in a wad over a reasonably expressed personal belief amusing.

If you dont want to wear a mask, that's perfectly cool. But, on the other hand, you're a loser if you have a problem with someone who wants to wear one. They aren't stepping on your right. They are just exercising their own. Live and let live, or... you guessed it... fuck right off.
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You’re conversing with people that are mentally disabled and/or high/drunk. It’s pretty futile... sad but true. I’ll Just smile and wave at them like the very “special” people they are. Our friend Lariat is quite hysterical and angry for a guy that thinks he’s toying with us.
 
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Praetorian_6 said:
Yeah, ok, I get it. You think you know my thoughts better than me. Gotcha. Now the simple act of responding means whatever you want it to mean.

Keep piling on, mob... It's the internet, and I don't care. Here's another thought: I find you guys, who are getting your panties in a wad over a reasonably expressed personal belief, amusing.

If you dont want to wear a mask, that's perfectly cool. But, on the other hand, you're a loser if you have a problem with someone who wants to wear one. They aren't stepping on your right. They are just exercising their own. Live and let live, or... you guessed it... fuck right off.

Btw, if you target me in a comment, I'll probably respond, especially if you twist and contort and misrepresent me. It's my nature. Kinda like Trump ;-)
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So you share my opinion that the mandates are wrong? That every person should have the right to choose?

Because that’s the real issue here. Sounds like you’re willing to stand in opposition with us.
 
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jakelly said:
So you share my opinion that the mandates are wrong? That every person should have the right to choose?

Because that’s the real issue here. Sounds like you’re willing to stand in opposition with us.
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There's more nuance to this than a simple answer can provide.

In this case, yes the mandates are the wrong policy, but they aren't unconstitutional. Early on, when we didn't know what we didn't know, they were ok. However, now they should be left to the people.

I don't think the constitution gives you freedom from a mask order during a pandemic anymore than it gives you the right to wander around without wearing clothes in public.

They have a limited authority to order masks to be worn in public, specifically in a severe enough public health crisis that warrants them. What warrants them? That's specifically left to our elected local and state leaders, who are accountable to us, their constituents.

Now, you asked if I would stand in opposition. I would oppose the mandate through pressuring local community leaders, my governor, and my legislators, just as with any law, regulation, or similar policy I opposed. What I will not do is make a constitutional case or take to violent opposition. That said, in my state and town, the point is moot as there is no such order. It's just a standing recommendation, as it should be.
 
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Praetorian_6 said:
There's more nuance to this than a simple answer can provide.

In this case, yes the mandates are the wrong policy, but they aren't unconstitutional. Early on, when we didn't know what we didn't know, they were ok. However, now they should be left to the people.

I don't think the constitution gives you freedom from a mask order during a pandemic anymore than it gives you the right to wander around without wearing clothes in public.

They have a limited authority to order masks to be worn in public, specifically in a severe enough public health crisis that warrants them. What warrants them? That's specifically left to our elected local and state leaders, who are accountable to us, their constituents.

Now, you asked if I would stand in opposition. I would oppose the mandate through pressuring local community leaders, my governor, and my legislators, just as with any law, regulation, or similar policy I opposed. What I will not do is make a constitutional case or take to violent opposition. That said, in my state and town, the point is moot as there is no such order. It's just a standing recommendation, as it should be.
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Then certainly you recognize the unconstitutional mandates barring people from assembling? That is clearly in violation of the 1A. So you would stand with me and fight that to the point of death, right?

On what constitutional grounds were they ok and then not ok? How does that work?

What within the Constitution allows the government to deprive a man of his living? I thought pursuit of happiness was a right...

Does a government get more power during a “pandemic“? No, they don’t. So how are mayors and governors making Law? What’s the appellate process for these determinations? What is our recourse?

The government has no rights or powers which don’t come from consent. None of these offices have been empowered to make law.

What about the precedent of natural law. I can’t tell you, my neighbor, to wear a mask or to close his business. So how do I gather ten more men, call ourselves a government, and now magically gather powers we didn’t have individually? By force of numbers?

What will the basis of your opposition to local government be, if not the Constitution? Emotional pleas, threats, an appeal to common good, what will stand in the place of the Law of the Land?

We impeached our mayor here in Norman, OK petition signed by 22500 people, town only has a 100k people. She won her last election with 5000 votes. She isn’t gone, won’t be for months. We also impeached like three city council members. Police are still defunded and mask “mandates” are still in place. What now? Ask super nice? How’s that work with a tyrant?
 
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AngryKoala said:
Umm CO2 is 0.33nm.....so yea not a good argument.
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That's not CO2 you see in your exhaled breath on a cold day - it's H2O. So if you can "see your breath" with a mask in place, it ain't doing shit to stop virus-laden water droplets from being spread. That I believe is the point of cornhusker's post.
 
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E. Bryant said:
That's not CO2 you see in your exhaled breath on a cold day - it's H2O. So if you can "see your breath" with a mask in place, it ain't doing shit to stop virus-laden water droplets from being spread. That I believe is the point of cornhusker's post.
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Yes, however I said that because H2O is a smaller molecule so figured people would put two and two together. Also, water vapor that is exhaled has some CO2 that is absorbed into the water aggregate. Viral particles in a droplet or aggregate of droplets would be even larger. These would be stopped (mostly) by the "appropriate" mask. Key word is appropriate, which very few people have access to. Evonik just developed a mask with an interesting 3 layered system that is patent pending.
I think everyone or most everyone here knows the surgical masks and cloth masks aren't stopping a whole lot. Masks could potentially be effective if the correct ones were used.
 
#422
Praetorian_6 said:
Yeah, ok, I get it. You think you know my thoughts better than me. Gotcha. Now the simple act of responding means whatever you want it to mean.

Keep piling on, mob... It's the internet, and I don't care. Here's another thought: I find you guys, who are getting your panties in a wad over a reasonably expressed personal belief, amusing.

If you dont want to wear a mask, that's perfectly cool. But, on the other hand, you're a loser if you have a problem with someone who wants to wear one. They aren't stepping on your right. They are just exercising their own. Live and let live, or... you guessed it... fuck right off.

Btw, if you target me in a comment, I'll probably respond, especially if you twist and contort and misrepresent me. It's my nature. Kinda like Trump ;-)
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Chris Cuomo is that you!

Id never give anyone shit for wearing a mask.

Its the likes of CC that are saying "Wear a damn mask"

If you wear one and I dont we are both safe........right?
 
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1911addict42 said:
You’re conversing with people that are mentally disabled and/or high/drunk. It’s pretty futile... sad but true. I’ll Just smile and wave at them like the very “special” people they are. Our friend Lariat is quite hysterical and angry for a guy that thinks he’s toying with us.
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Yet you ask us for advice in making your financial investment decisions.....High Point! Buy as many as you can while you can!

Who is retarded?
 
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Choid said:
Well, I will tell that this is how I see the mask issue in general. First and foremost it is a personal decision. The attempt to "communize" it, that you are doing it for your neighbor, was a fraud. I keep mine in my car. If I need to go into a store, it goes on, when I come out, it comes off. I haven't been to a restaurant for a few years, so I don't know how that part works.

A proposition that is, perhaps a better way to look at masks: All things being equal, the wearing of masks is helpful in keeping down the spread of covid. However, if wearing a mask causes the wearer to act more recklessly in other ways, the utility of the mask is highly diminished and can even become a negative.
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Why don't you go find us one shred of evidence or one study that shows masks work. Not hearsay, not some virtue signaling fucktard, Not some alphabet talking head who has been caught lying about the virus 10 times already. We just want the "science" these people claim to be following. While we are it, contact tracing, lock downs, and quarantines for healthy people are also out according to their studies.

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E. Bryant said:
That's not CO2 you see in your exhaled breath on a cold day - it's H2O. So if you can "see your breath" with a mask in place, it ain't doing shit to stop virus-laden water droplets from being spread. That I believe is the point of cornhusker's post.
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You need to type slower, use monosyllabic words.
 
#427
supercorndogs said:
Why don't you go find us one shred of evidence or one study that shows masks work. Not hearsay, not some virtue signaling fucktard, Not some alphabet talking head who has been caught lying about the virus 10 times already. We just want the "science" these people claim to be following. While we are it, contact tracing, lock downs, and quarantines for healthy people are also out according to their studies.

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This was already touched on in the last retarded thread and studies are out there which conclude some effectiveness and there are studies out there which conclude no effectiveness. The issue is these tests cannot be %100 controlled which is why we see inconclusive variability. Test design is key and unfortunately, to my knowledge, a good test has yet to be designed.

Hopefully after November 3rd all this retarded shit stops. Already bad enough I have to quarantine because my brothers, cousins, friends, step brother is awaiting covid results.
 
#428
AngryKoala said:
This was already touched on in the last retarded thread and studies are out there which conclude some effectiveness and there are studies out there which conclude no effectiveness. The issue is these tests cannot be %100 controlled which is why we see inconclusive variability. Test design is key and unfortunately, to my knowledge, a good test has yet to be designed.

Hopefully after November 3rd all this retarded shit stops. Already bad enough I have to quarantine because my brothers, cousins, friends, step brother is awaiting covid results.
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We didn't touch on shit, you made up a story and never backed it up. Post one that shows they are effective..... You can't, because there is not one.

These threads are not stupid. What his stupid is the lockdowns, quarantines, and mask mandates. What is stupid is people reading a couple opinion pieces and thinking that is science.
 
#429
AngryKoala said:
Yes, however I said that because H2O is a smaller molecule so figured people would put two and two together. Also, water vapor that is exhaled has some CO2 that is absorbed into the water aggregate. Viral particles in a droplet or aggregate of droplets would be even larger. These would be stopped (mostly) by the "appropriate" mask. Key word is appropriate, which very few people have access to. Evonik just developed a mask with an interesting 3 layered system that is patent pending.
I think everyone or most everyone here knows the surgical masks and cloth masks aren't stopping a whole lot. Masks could potentially be effective if the correct ones were used.
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Yet we are pressured by "our leaders" to wear any mask.........so is it about efficacy or optics?
 
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supercorndogs said:
We didn't touch on shit, you made up a story and never backed it up. Post one that shows they are effective..... You can't, because there is not one.

These threads are not stupid. What his stupid is the lockdowns, quarantines, and mask mandates. What is stupid is people reading a couple opinion pieces and thinking that is science.
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It was posted and I made up nothing. Go back and look through the thread. Not my job to do yours, Google it.
 
#432
pmclaine said:
Yet we are pressured by "our leaders" to wear any mask.........so is it about efficacy or optics?
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Initially it was fear of the unknown now it is election year optics. That and our beloved scientific leaders can't agree on anything so who knows.
I think touting the effectiveness of wearing anything over your face as effective is absolutely retarded. I do get a good laugh when I see someone wear a large diameter mesh mask out of spite.
 
#434
Every school in Colorado, and every BOCES, is receiving a new box of N95 masks, straight from China, bought by the state government every week. Every school in Colorado bought an electronic device for every student, from China, so they can do remote learning in the event of a lockdown. We have had 5, 2 week lockdowns of entire classes, at the schools our BOCES serves, all on presumed positive cases, and all classes were told to continue quarantine even when the negative test results were received. One of our psychs, was also told to continue to quarantine for two weeks even if the test was negative. This was in writing from the County Health Department.


ITS NOT ABOUT THE VIRUS.
 
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AngryKoala said:
Look in the other thread you lazy moron. Honestly are you that lazy or that stupid which is it?
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It would be pages back in my feed because I am contributing member here and not some leftist fucktard who signed up here to push an agenda. So if you have evidence to back your claims, and its so easy to find, post the evidence you fucking trollop. If you don't post it consider yourself shamed, now go sit in the corner of your moms basement with that dunce cap she bought you. I have searched I can't find it because I am too stupid or because it doesn't exist.
 
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supercorndogs said:
It would be pages back in my feed because I am contributing member here and not some leftist fucktard who signed up here to push an agenda. So if you have evidence to back your claims, and its so easy to find, post the evidence you fucking trollop. If you don't post it consider yourself shamed, now go sit in the corner of your moms basement with that dunce cap she bought you. I have searched I can't find it because I am too stupid or because it doesn't exist.
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Glad we agree, you are very stupid.
 
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Praetorian_6 said:
ok. You can't stand an informed person with a different opinion, and would therefore rather dwell on it than move on after being told to. So, fuck off, it is.
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But you havent showed any facts as to why you only wear one around strangers and not your own family. You are virtue signaling by wearing one outside the home and not around your family. Its plain and simple if you believe masks work and would wear it 24/7. If not you are virtue signaling. PERIOD, there's no in between.

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1911addict42 said:
I have no clue if masks work or how effective they are...
I am a healthy 32 year old, I’m not afraid of the virus. (My dad did was infected in April, and got pneumonia on both lungs, still has effect on his health). I do think it’s very real.
I wear a mask as a sign of gratitude for my health, to pay it forward to those that are less fortunate.
I wear it to show my solidarity with the Health care workers who are sacrificing so much to help people survive serious illness, and to those who can’t get procedures done because hospitals are overflowing.
I wear it so I don’t scare the shit out of the little old lady at the store, and make her feel comfortable being out of her house .
I wear it to share in the plight the millions of people that lost their income due to the governments forced closure of their business, in their desperate attempt to slow the spread.
I wear it to do whatever I can to chip in, even if it isn’t effective. It’s an emblem of caring about others besides myself, and that I am only one of many and not important.
I will continue to wear it regardless of mandates or not, because I believe it is my civic duty.

stay safe and healthy, god bless.
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jesus christ this reads straight of some orwellian newspeak night mare. wow dude. so you are simply saying you dont have one single scientific proven reason to wear a mask. every single reason you list is symbolically wearing a mask....LMFAO. if there ever was a true reason to use the cliche' line of sheep, you sir are it. WOW......🥴
 
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supercorndogs said:
Well of course you wouldn't. Thats the thing about ignoramuses, they never know they are the stupid one everyone is talking about. Don't worry I am sure someone wrote an article that will make you feel better. You just need to find so you will know what it to do.
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Says the dude that can't do a simple Google search. So stupid lol.
 
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