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Why Mask Wearing is my Civic Duty

I did. There are no studies that show the efficacy of "masks." A google search brings a bunch of opinion pieces, with no studies to back them up. They link other articles for sources. Those articles link other articles for sources. What you get to the end of the chain you find studies that don't say what the articles claim they say. When you go straight to the source, as in the article I posted, showing the results of WHO studies prior to 2020, the say they don't work.
 
I did. There are no studies that show the efficacy of "masks." A google search brings a bunch of opinion pieces, with no studies to back them up. They link other articles for sources.
Since you are not a scientist and don't actually have to read research papers on a weekly basis, I will give you a hint.....bibliography....OMG ground breaking, lol.
 
Says the dude that can't do a simple Google search. So stupid lol.
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Since you are not a scientist and don't actually have to read research papers on a weekly basis, I will give you a hint.....bibliography....OMG ground breaking, lol.

You have no idea what I do. Just like you have no idea if masks work. All this fucktard double speak from you and still nothing to back it up.

The bibliography, LOL, now where do you think I found the sources listed were other articles?
 
You are mistaking me for someone who thinks current masks are effective at preventing transmission. I do not, but to say there has not been one study done with a positive efficacy is just a blatant lie. It does not mean the study was sound or proves a damn thing but the studies do exist.

If there is link it, how much would it have saved you. Show us a study the shows the efficacy of masks.
 
You work for a private company you work under their rules.

I just dont like the public mandating the private what to do.

I see this morphing into a "Your papers please...." world.

If we let it shot records or covid passports are coming and you will be excluded from commerce/life if you dont comply.

Why? Because the sniffles?

Yes, this is coming.

The coronapass.
 
But you havent showed any facts as to why you only wear one around strangers and not your own family. You are virtue signaling by wearing one outside the home and not around your family. Its plain and simple if you believe masks work and would wear it 24/7. If not you are virtue signaling. PERIOD, there's no in between.

Doc
Thankfully I haven't rested my case on providing facts to you. Go back and read my first post here where I explained my self and what you can do if you disagree. These arguments around here are laughable. Straw man after straw man. You folks keep telling me why I am doing s***. It makes you look stupid, really. The only one who actually understand my reasoning in this thread is yours truly. To assume that you know better than I do is just ridiculous. It should be embarrassing enough for you guys to stop doing it, but you're apparently not. So carry on.
 
You’re quoting the WHO as a source to show the masks don’t work, while at the same time saying the virus isn’t real, even though the WHO has been emphatically saying it is. Do you not see how ridiculous that is?

I was using this to show that this mask BS is so wrong on every level. Did you actually read their pros to use of masks? Some of them are quite funny.

You keep wearing your mask, but make sure to also wear it around your family. Plain and simple if you dont then its virtue signaling, if not you must hate your family.

Also, if I dont want to wear a mask then dont condemn me for it, because your mask works so well, right?

I will not be forced to wear a mask that cannot be rationalized beyond someone else's feelings.

This country has been destroyed by this supposed crisis. The CDC came out a few weeks ago saying Covid only deaths were less than 10,000. When do we finally say enough is enough.

How many families lives were destroyed by these shut downs. How many people lost their houses because of this supposed crisis. How many people were arrested for BS mandate violations.

Are you one of those people who calls the "health police" on your neighbor for being outside without a mask?

Doc
 
@Praetorian_6 and @1911addict42

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Praetorian what elite guard do you lead.....You know the Praetorians were not a respected organization by people desiring a free republic?

First, I appreciate your fantasies about me. Go ahead and knock yourself out.


Second, yes I'm well aware that the praetorian guard, honorable as they started out, fell into dishonor by the end of their time in the Roman Army. It was my call sign in the military. That's as much as you get.
 
Then certainly you recognize the unconstitutional mandates barring people from assembling? That is clearly in violation of the 1A. So you would stand with me and fight that to the point of death, right?

On what constitutional grounds were they ok and then not ok? How does that work?

What within the Constitution allows the government to deprive a man of his living? I thought pursuit of happiness was a right...

Does a government get more power during a “pandemic“? No, they don’t. So how are mayors and governors making Law? What’s the appellate process for these determinations? What is our recourse?

The government has no rights or powers which don’t come from consent. None of these offices have been empowered to make law.

What about the precedent of natural law. I can’t tell you, my neighbor, to wear a mask or to close his business. So how do I gather ten more men, call ourselves a government, and now magically gather powers we didn’t have individually? By force of numbers?

What will the basis of your opposition to local government be, if not the Constitution? Emotional pleas, threats, an appeal to common good, what will stand in the place of the Law of the Land?

We impeached our mayor here in Norman, OK petition signed by 22500 people, town only has a 100k people. She won her last election with 5000 votes. She isn’t gone, won’t be for months. We also impeached like three city council members. Police are still defunded and mask “mandates” are still in place. What now? Ask super nice? How’s that work with a tyrant?
Look, I'm not going to disassemble your post point-by-point. This is the internet, after all. No arguments are won, they just keep chasing their own tail. Having said that, I took two semesters of constitutional law in college, and it was one of the best decisions I made educationally in my life. So, I will just generally say that I do not agree with the argument that you've laid out. It is not nuanced to account for the exceptions that have been ruled on and reaffirmed by the Supreme Court many times. But, if you feel strongly that your argument has substantial Merit, and you believe you have grounds, then your recourse is to initiate a lawsuit, that might even end up right there in the Supreme Court again.

The answer to your question in my opinion, and again it's just my opinion, is that you and your town should simply vote to replace leaders who are making bad policy decisions now. In my mind, that's how a republic works. Again, as I frequently said I am totally cool you having a different opinion.

Now you haven't said this, but what I don't like in general is this idea out there that seems so pervasive that we're just going to pick up arms and start shooting each other. we have a beautiful system to resolve disagreements, and we should be working through it.
 
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And for each one of these studies I can find a study that states something that is opposite. Again, Corndogdipshit they exist.

The really funny part is the one stating N95 are more effective than surgical masks. If I go up 10 links on the Google scholar search it has a study that shows there is no difference between surgical masks and N95.
 
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I'm old enough to remember when people though crack and AIDS were government plots to kill the gays and close the bathhouses.
 
I wear a fucking mask because my millionaire boss will shit can me/kick me to the curb and piss on me if I don't. My COBRA health care insurance is $1200 and I *just* got my job back after 6 months of starving.

Millionaires tell me to wear a mask or my family starves and my retirement (I'm 64+) tanks or is compromised for the rest of my miserable Life. I'm wearing the mask. Fuck. You. I have to eat and put insurance on the table.....if my millionaire boss tells me to suck it I can suck it or starve. I wear the mask. By the way, millionaire boss got *Millions* in PPP money to kick me to the curb in April and figures I'm literally begging now. So I'm a Bitch after 47 fucking years working like a dog.

I hate myself and have lost 20 pounds this Summer. Can't eat, can't sleep, but when offered the chance to work for a cock sucking millionaire and maybe (just maybe) survive I took the job. Which requires I wear a fucking mask.

God fucking help US.

VooDoo
I'm going to be an asshole now because you need to hear it.

You are the reason your life sucks.
 
You’re quoting the WHO as a source to show the masks don’t work, while at the same time saying the virus isn’t real, even though the WHO has been emphatically saying it is. Do you not see how ridiculous that is?


The WHO has proven its output is dependent on who is paying for the result.

Trump opted out of their racket.
 
But you havent showed any facts as to why you only wear one around strangers and not your own family. You are virtue signaling by wearing one outside the home and not around your family. Its plain and simple if you believe masks work and would wear it 24/7. If not you are virtue signaling. PERIOD, there's no in between.

Doc


The virus respects the boundaries that govt places on its movement or ability to infect.

It is also able to tell time because my governor will announce on Thursday new regulations to go into affect on Monday.

So Covid is a serious risk to your health but we can delay the implementation of safety measures until Monday.

Some would think "Oh the govt is just being sympathetic to the disruption the restriction will cause" but in actuality its just proof that this is more for show than the health risk claimed to be.

If not the gov is negligent in allowing every infection that occurs between Thursday and Sunday night at 0 hundred.

If the govt made restrictions on guns I bet guns would abide by them.
 
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IMO, private companies may lead the charge for coronapass. Oh, and public schools too...

As much as I am hoping Trump wins, I could see him backing a national vaccine mandate.

The schools are Communist, they are part of the problem. Teachers unions never want to go back and they dont care about the damage that is doing to the kids.

Business will not reuire it if they are allowed to open.

And a big part of that is shielding them from lawsuits for infections.

We would never sue Walmart if we get the flu and could even (and we cant) attribute my infection to being obtained at Walmart........yet.......

The Dems are fighting against private business being shielded when a person makes their own personal decision and as a result gets infected than wants to sue a business because they want to make the unprovable case they were infected there.

Private business is just trying to get a waiver of liability when in a sane world they should never even be considered liable.

I dont blame Twinkies for making me fat.
 
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That means you lack communication skills. Don't project that blame onto us, its yours to own.
Strawman after strawman. It's not blaming; it's by design. I don't want you to know my reasoning, because I don't see anyone here looking for a conversation. I only see people trying to score points. To illuminate you as to my own well-considered and researched opinion would only serve to invite further attack and criticism that I have no interest in exploring with you fucks. I'm confident in my position.

Next...
 
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Not if they are allowed to open.

And a big part of that is shielding them from lawsuits for infections.

We would never sue Walmart if we get the flu and could even (and we cant) attribute my infection to being obtained at Walmart........yet.......

The Dems are fighting against private business being shielded when a person makes their own personal decision and as a result gets infected than wants to sue a business because they want to make the unprovable case they were infected there.

Private business is just trying to get a waiver of liability when in a sane world they should never even be considered liable.

I dont blame Twinkies for making me fat.
Those fried ones with cinnamon sugar....so good.
 
Strawman after strawman. It's not blaming; it's by design. I don't want you to know my reasoning, because I don't see anyone here looking for a conversation. I only see people trying to score points. To illuminate you as to my own well-considered and researched opinion would only serve to invite further attack and criticism that I have no interest in exploring with you fucks. I'm confident in my position.

Next...

Sounds similar to a certain congressman claiming to have evidence proving guilt, but after several years has not seen fit to release.
 
Strawman after strawman. It's not blaming; it's by design. I don't want you to know my reasoning, because I don't see anyone here looking for a conversation. I only see people trying to score points. To illuminate you as to my own well-considered and researched opinion would only serve to invite further attack and criticism that I have no interest in exploring with you fucks. I'm confident in my position.

Next...
Says the guy who cant bring anything to the table except banter back and forth.....

I would love to have a conversation. However you haven't brought any facts with you.

Doc
 
Says the guy who cant bring anything to the table except banter back and forth.....

I would love to have a conversation. However you haven't brought any facts with you.

Doc
Since you're so hell bent on making points entirely based on "facts" and "data", why don't you show us anything scientific which proves masks are meant to suppress and control us?
 
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Says the guy who cant bring anything to the table except banter back and forth.....

I would love to have a conversation. However you haven't brought any facts with you.

Doc

Ok. I've made my points, and you fucks are the ones that have a problem with them. The only justification I need to wear a mask is that I have the right to do so. Is that fact good enough?
 
Speaks out about people protesting Covid 19.......


where was he when altar boys were having their social distance space violated by priests?
 
Speaks out about people protesting Covid 19.......


where was he when altar boys were having their social distance space violated by priests?
Same guy gave a speech about walls.
For the dead stars in our midst.
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The Catholic Church (institution) grows where people are poor, and shrinks where people are no longer poor. Their only motivation is keeping people poor, and themselves relevant, which explains all of their atrocious policies. This pope is a goblin.
 
Hi,

Ok so this is going to be slightly off topic from the mask and no mask shit but educational and enlightening nonetheless.

How many here realize that ALL intrabank communications is being pushed to a company in Indonesia and Singapore? That means every time your bank sends you a message via its' online banking system it gets stored/read elsewhere. It means every time your bank sends intrabank memo requesting anything regarding your account it gets stored/read elsewhere. It also means that singular company is easier to enforce the Patriot Act "request" for information, to the point they are going to send USA Gov and International Gov information BEFORE being asked.

How many here realize that their business bank accounts are now directly linked to their business bank account profiles, even if not at the same bank?

How many here realize that Jordan cancelled their SOFEX exhibition to take place this past March in August of last year? How did they know what the world was going to be doing this past March?

How many here realize that Poland held its defense industry exhibition last month yet NSSF just cancelled Shot Show for January? So International gatherings of the top USA military officials is safe to the National Security but FFL dealers attending Shot Show is a risk of Covid spreading?

How many here realize that Abu Dhabi is still holding its' defense industry exhibition this coming February? Guess how many top USA military leaders, Government officials and defense industry companies will be there??

How many here realize that Ukrainian Airlines is restarting their USA flights from/to JFK in April of next year? Anyone want to play the significance game of that timeframe?

While the virus is real, the hysteria is by design, the actions are a litmus test. We are all witnessing the largest magician act in the world. Some see the slight of hand tricks while others believe the magic (hysteria).

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And let us not forget the success INTERPOL has had since the worldwide shutdown due to Covid. They have been very very very successful at clicking guys off their warrant list...Especially members of ASG.

And not forget the success the US Dept of Treasury has had in seizing cryptocurrency accounts of personnel/businesses.

Neither of those would be done without the world shutting down.


Sincerely,
Theis
 
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So many unanswered questions for 1911 fellow,

What is the exit plan with these 40 guns you invested in? Long term, short term? Are you aware most used\pre-owned guns sell for less than retail? I assume you know that guns are not a very liquid asset. Do you enjoy shooting, training? Or are these put away as future assets to profit from?

400 Mags seems like quite a few. Do you know that are not single use? or are they investment grade and part of your portfolio?

Are all 40 guns 1911's as you claim to be addicted to them?

Do you find it prudent to proclaim on a public forum you own large number of firearms? Are they stored in a way that is responsible to your civic duty, as you clearly are concerned for other community members?

Did any elected official award you some honor or public recognition for being a fine example of civic mask responsibility to the fellow citizens? Or does it just make you feel better as a person?

Do you feel any satisfaction as the author of this soon to be epic thread? Or in hindsight does it seem like a bit of a fail?

What is a Choid? Will mask wearing protect you from one?

You have added nothing the thread you started in regard to chicken. Why?
 
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I have to say, I am about the most conservative person I know in almost every environment in which I might find myself. This is literally the first time I have felt like the left wing of any argument. A few observations...

1- It is kind of addictive. Even if you are basically alone, there is a smug satisfaction that comes with being on the left.
2- I don't think my position on masks is that different from others here. I believe that, in general, they are not helpful mainly because of the use of t shirt material masks and because they are not used correctly. I don't support mask mandates, would never tell somebody else to wear a mask etc. I just happen to believe that it is the smarter option for me at this point, and as I mentioned, I was wearing them before when we were told not to.
3- I do not reject the idea that the Covid era has been a massive power grab. I think the government tries to grab power whenever and wherever it can.
4- I think some of you are dumb ass conspiracy nuts, and don't understand math very well, but I think that is your right.