Let me show you how free choice works....
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Assuming I took “woman’s studies” also thrown as an insult, is a pretty good display of the failures that you’ve endured.
Pretty good life here actually.
Only thing interfering with it is the constant attacks on my freedoms.
Live within my means, enjoy enough ammo on hand to plink or attend a class as need be.
Why am I not in the angst you are?
I live in an equally communist area as you even.
Canada oh canada....... take him back please!!!
Hi,
So both my wife and I are both direct, first generation imports into the USA from socialist countries.
We both came into USA in totally 2 different ways....she came via adoption and I came via Citizenship for Service.
Yet we have both done very good for ourselves WITHOUT the .gov regulations/controls that we left from.
The very country I left due to Political issues with people of my last name being "disappeared" now pays me as a consultant, lol....
Take it from someone that completely understands what life is like when EVERYTHING is regulated by .gov....you do not want it.
Don't complain that someone else drives a Lamborghini while you drive a Mazda because you have absolutely zero ideas or concepts of that hours that person puts into the number of businesses he puts them into.
This entire thread is:
Sincerely,
Theis
So both my wife and I are both direct, first generation imports into the USA from socialist countries.
We both came into USA in totally 2 different ways....she came via adoption and I came via Citizenship for Service.
Yet we have both done very good for ourselves WITHOUT the .gov regulations/controls that we left from.
The very country I left due to Political issues with people of my last name being "disappeared" now pays me as a consultant, lol....
Take it from someone that completely understands what life is like when EVERYTHING is regulated by .gov....you do not want it.
Don't complain that someone else drives a Lamborghini while you drive a Mazda because you have absolutely zero ideas or concepts of that hours that person puts into the number of businesses he puts them into.
This entire thread is:
Sincerely,
Theis
OP, just stay in that place you be from and keep making that 7.62x39mm shit ammo, for that bowl of rice you get each day for your labors. I'll stay and pay, if I'm stupid enough to not plan ahead. Mac
I firmly disagree. I've read all your comments, thanks for all the insults. its very very troubling as this is a forum where we can all come to ask questions and get information. I believe that my local shops are scamming, and before even asking one question about what I've experienced the LOT of you immediately throw out the 10 sentences you've read in economics, and immediately feel threatened calling me a communist. I really feel bad for that breakdown and for the inability to have a conversation. thanks for your time.
The local stores are NOT "scamming" you, if they are offering you the goods as advertised, at clearly listed prices.
I'm not happy about grocery prices currently.
My grocery bill has gone up by about 30% this year, for the exact same stuff as all the local stores have significantly raised prices on many staples.
BUT it's not "scamming"
OP
You know what I am upset about? All the fucking idiots out there that pay $50 for a 50/pack of FMJ 9mm range ammo
If you fucking idiots would stop buying it at insane prices, the price would come down.
I can't be upset with anyone but the buyer. I can tell you for 100% sure, **I** am not buying any of it. I would throw my gun at someone in self defense before I bought $1/round 9mm range ammo
You know what I am upset about? All the fucking idiots out there that pay $50 for a 50/pack of FMJ 9mm range ammo
If you fucking idiots would stop buying it at insane prices, the price would come down.
I can't be upset with anyone but the buyer. I can tell you for 100% sure, **I** am not buying any of it. I would throw my gun at someone in self defense before I bought $1/round 9mm range ammo
I had to stop buying it months ago. just not willing to pay $235 for a case of ammo that was $140 two months prior. I'm also not "into" being told its the manufacturer/distributers fault when they raised the price by $20 and the store raised it by $75 on top of that.
Fyi, I dont feel threatened even a teeny weeny bit
30% across a bill is not a 200% hike for one item. its just not. I hear what you are saying and thanks for the info.
good for you. that's a nice picture of you in lingerie btw.
OP I'm interested to know what you offer as a solution to this purported travesty?
well now there is a question! My only thoughts are there's absolutely nothing wrong with the cost of something going up with the demand to manufacture a supply. Theres nothing wrong with that price increase being reflected on store shelves. However when the item is unavailable well that's just it. you have to wait. if the price doesn't go up on the manufactures side then it doesn't go up because you received 30% of your normal stock. I really have no other argument then that.
So than you see no reason for restaurants to be failing in the lockdown......its all fake.
If a business can only work with 30% of its product their costs to conduct business have not changed.
Electrical bills, mortgage, insurance etc.
They must raise prices just to open the door.
I look good!!!
so I'm not sure if this was asked yet .....
Why didnt you stock up when prices were cheap?
Forget the pandemic! This happens every so many yrs....
Even beef prices are up. Right now butchers that slaughter and pack beef are booked out almost a year!
Do you offer to pay more when prices are lower?
Why didnt you stock up when prices were cheap?
Forget the pandemic! This happens every so many yrs....
Even beef prices are up. Right now butchers that slaughter and pack beef are booked out almost a year!
Do you offer to pay more when prices are lower?
Something to remember is many of us have seen this same cycle repeatedly with ammunition, magazines and firearms.
We tell folks to spend the money when it's low, and some listen, but most don't.
There was a certain member who was famous for all his posts ending in "Buy More Ammo" and he was posting all over the threads, and that was at a time you could buy all the ammo you wanted at give away prices...
The Politicians are the ones who have made this mess.
IF Trump wins, expect prices to stabilize and go back to mostly normal by mid next year.
However if Biden wins... guess what... the government will be actively trying to make it very difficult and very expensive to get ammunition....
We tell folks to spend the money when it's low, and some listen, but most don't.
There was a certain member who was famous for all his posts ending in "Buy More Ammo" and he was posting all over the threads, and that was at a time you could buy all the ammo you wanted at give away prices...
The Politicians are the ones who have made this mess.
IF Trump wins, expect prices to stabilize and go back to mostly normal by mid next year.
However if Biden wins... guess what... the government will be actively trying to make it very difficult and very expensive to get ammunition....
I'm going to take a guess firearms are a new thing to you? Like the last few months?
Damnit you guys. Cant you read? The OP clearly said to keep this civil. He's obviously trying to stir the pot with a shit stick. Any time you have to preface a post with that to keep from getting butthurt, maybe you shouldn't be posting.
But if I have a sandwich and two guys want it, one is willing to pay me $5 for it and the other is willing to pay me $10, why the fuck would I want to gov to come in and force me to sell it to a guy where I'd probably have end taking the me $5 and then pay $7 in taxes, licenses and gov fees?
But if I have a sandwich and two guys want it, one is willing to pay me $5 for it and the other is willing to pay me $10, why the fuck would I want to gov to come in and force me to sell it to a guy where I'd probably have end taking the me $5 and then pay $7 in taxes, licenses and gov fees?
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While you've been babbling here... ATF has begun the process pf banning imports of pistol braced guns, and also after domestic... under TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, not Biden.
That's not hope, that's a fact. Instead of coming on here to bitch about it (even though out of principle I don't like it), I look for the opportunity. That's how I live my life, and if you don't like it... I could care less.
Secondly, if you think doors will be getting kicked down to confiscate, you are a very fearful, delusional person.
Fair Wages, labor protection- more communist buzz words.
Congratulations, you are really hitting on all cylinders now.
Next, you'll be telling us how much better it will be when the government owns the means of production. No wait, I bet you're all gung-ho for "single payer healthcare." Because, if it's good enough for the VA, it's good enough for everyone.
Comminists gonna communist...
Congratulations, you are really hitting on all cylinders now.
Next, you'll be telling us how much better it will be when the government owns the means of production. No wait, I bet you're all gung-ho for "single payer healthcare." Because, if it's good enough for the VA, it's good enough for everyone.
Comminists gonna communist...
No, no, in @J.Kubiak's utopia, the government owns the sandwich. You just make it and collect the fee for them...
So,
What were you doing in 2017-2018-2019 when they were practically giving ammo away?
22LR $0.03
5.56 $0.13- $0.20
7.62 $0.30- $0.60
45 & 9mm $0.05
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I think I figured it out. Some of you don't have the mental capacity to understand the reality of price gouging.
here's the simple definition:
an act or instance of charging customers too high a price for goods or services, especially when demand is high and supplies are limited
yes folks it happens and yes folks its real.
Fact: Californians can't purchase online or out of state ammo, which is currently reflected at increased rates online due to supply and demand along with covid. in store prices are then 50% increase over those same prices for the online sales of these shops. If it can be sold online at reasonable prices why can it not be sold in stores at those same reasonable prices? And yes I understand costs incurred on the floor vs online.
2nd thing I figured out. Some of you guys don't have the mental capacity to understand the difference between a shop that LOST customers due to covid.. businesses that need to increase their pricing to survive, VS a shop that had a 200% INCREASE in customers and revenue consistently booming since covid. This is a preeeeeeetty obvious difference so for those of you throwing out the economics.. well enough said. I am all for a fair and healthy profit, I vote republican, I believe in treating others as I expect to be treated and I believe in showing you respect until I am disrespected. I am not a communist, I also am not stupid, people do in fact take advantage of others, price gauging is in fact real, it is in fact done on a commercial level, especially during times in need, and I frankly do not want to tolerate it nor do I commend it. I also don't try to utterly and pathetically defend it as capitalism, its simply not. Also I don't need to insult people to make a point. good talk!
here's the simple definition:
an act or instance of charging customers too high a price for goods or services, especially when demand is high and supplies are limited
yes folks it happens and yes folks its real.
Fact: Californians can't purchase online or out of state ammo, which is currently reflected at increased rates online due to supply and demand along with covid. in store prices are then 50% increase over those same prices for the online sales of these shops. If it can be sold online at reasonable prices why can it not be sold in stores at those same reasonable prices? And yes I understand costs incurred on the floor vs online.
2nd thing I figured out. Some of you guys don't have the mental capacity to understand the difference between a shop that LOST customers due to covid.. businesses that need to increase their pricing to survive, VS a shop that had a 200% INCREASE in customers and revenue consistently booming since covid. This is a preeeeeeetty obvious difference so for those of you throwing out the economics.. well enough said. I am all for a fair and healthy profit, I vote republican, I believe in treating others as I expect to be treated and I believe in showing you respect until I am disrespected. I am not a communist, I also am not stupid, people do in fact take advantage of others, price gauging is in fact real, it is in fact done on a commercial level, especially during times in need, and I frankly do not want to tolerate it nor do I commend it. I also don't try to utterly and pathetically defend it as capitalism, its simply not. Also I don't need to insult people to make a point. good talk!
I was shooting a LOT! lol
give it a few days and wait and see after trump wins to see if stores that have not had a shell in over a month don't suddenly pop in with a bunch at a much higher price as much as I really hate the thought of it shit happens and money is king and again if the buy more of it so next time when the prices go crazy high you are prepared wouldn't you like to be a prepper too or at least a good boy scout and always be prepared .
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Ravenworks
So,
What were you doing in 2017-2018-2019 when they were practically giving ammo away?
22LR $0.03
5.56 $0.13- $0.20
7.62 $0.30- $0.60
45 & 9mm $0.05
I was stocking up !
Ravenworks
So,
What were you doing in 2017-2018-2019 when they were practically giving ammo away?
22LR $0.03
5.56 $0.13- $0.20
7.62 $0.30- $0.60
45 & 9mm $0.05
I was stocking up !
says the poor man lol. we're good over here.
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Sooooooooo, I’m guessing this is not still available?
Who determines what price is "too high?"
The purchaser? GBPSE. Literally, find it cheaper elsewhere, and buy that.
The Govt? Go be communist somewhere else.
Case in point. I bought 800 rounds of 9mm for $149 last week, within a few miles of my house, from a "big box" store...
Don't hate the player, hate the game. Unless the game is communism, then hate the player too. And the coaches. And the fans.
The purchaser? GBPSE. Literally, find it cheaper elsewhere, and buy that.
The Govt? Go be communist somewhere else.
Case in point. I bought 800 rounds of 9mm for $149 last week, within a few miles of my house, from a "big box" store...
Don't hate the player, hate the game. Unless the game is communism, then hate the player too. And the coaches. And the fans.
shooting from the hip? I would say no one do anything differently then they currently are, with the exception that we as Americans point out when we identify it and stand together saying we are aware and won't tolerate it. without the need for government regulation, But you can't stand for anything and especially not together here apparently. not without some redneck hooo hallorin at you for being a commie lol. Jesus you really can't make this shit up.
Why can't Californians buy online ammo or ammunition from out of state? I thought I saw where there was a stay put on that where it was ruled unconstitutional
Your state's regulation of ammo and firearms in general has created much of your problems.
Being forced to compete with online sales would regulate the market.
Have you ever heard of Don Quixote?
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Being forced to compete with online sales would regulate the market.
Have you ever heard of Don Quixote?
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You still don't get it
Wow haha just Wow
The online sales are $60 less per case for the same stores in question in California. they have retail stores and an online store. the online store can ship outside of California but will no longer ship TO California FFL dealers (hmmmmm I wonder why that is). online or retail stores will ship to FFL dealers in CA however several FFL dealers in Los Angeles are no longer accepting these transfers due to being over worked.. hmmmm starting to see a trend building a case for the ability to price gouge...??? really DON'T need to search into it that far. But I guess you need to be a communist to spot anything with your intelligence.
Price Gouging California edition
oag.ca.gov .
Dear governor polesmoker, your price gouging law is missing a critical item, ammo prices should never go up no matter what and you should make it law. While you are at it, you should pass more laws that will make me happy and I don't give a fuck what negative repercussions that I don't foresee will come from it.
FAQs on Price Gouging
Links to topics below FAQs about Price Gouging in California [for consumers] FAQs on Price Gouging [for local officials]
oag.ca.gov Dear governor polesmoker, your price gouging law is missing a critical item, ammo prices should never go up no matter what and you should make it law. While you are at it, you should pass more laws that will make me happy and I don't give a fuck what negative repercussions that I don't foresee will come from it.
Still waiting for the response on inability to purchase online ammo.
Pack up and move away from California. Move here to Texas and we will properly re-educate you. Be forewarned we do BBQs with real meat and real liquor ... though I will concede most of the time at BBQs I see crap beer stop.. But at least the liquor is quality.
Seriously, get the fuck out of California and many of your problems will melt away
Pack up and move away from California. Move here to Texas and we will properly re-educate you. Be forewarned we do BBQs with real meat and real liquor ... though I will concede most of the time at BBQs I see crap beer stop.. But at least the liquor is quality.
Seriously, get the fuck out of California and many of your problems will melt away
Have lots of family in Texas. Dallas, Houston, Maud, Texarkana (yes I know). I firmly believe the problem arose from being in CA. doesn't mean it didn't happen, and doesn't mean I wasn't called a commie by my fellow republican voting Americans on here. we eat real beef here in CA too, and we drink real beer, I don't though... I like mich ultra and coors (insert rude attacks here for you snobs).
we can not purchase online ammo unless its shipped to an FFL. Many FFL aren't accepting these transfers.
OP should work on fixing his own state, plan more in advance, and/or find another hobby. California is making it's own bed everyday.
I find it humorous and commendable that you start every post and paragraph with general insults and always finish with scolding all the bad boys for using insults.
I also chuckle, nay, laugh out loud at your cripplingly stunted understanding of economics.
The very situation you are using as an example, Californian ammo and gun sales is a shining example of excess demand and limited supply caused directly by interference from an overly protective government mechanism that Californians themselves have created by demanding Fair Wage, Fair Price Control, safety at the cost of freedom.
You truly have yourselves to blame and yet are asking for another helping from mother government. Way to dig that hole deeper. I am sure that your socialist politicians would be happy to help you realize your dreams.
yea I joined in after the onslaught. you really surprised haha. and no Bro, no.. do me a favor and show me where I believe the government should intervene. also California law isn't creating the problem. CA law allows the problem to exist. store owners who like scamming people are solely at fault. why don't you take a walk over here sometime and look into the factual evidence. Store owners capitalizing on illegal labor every day. oh yea. its real, you frankly are just too uneducated to know that it in fact exists. only way to stop it? point it out, but according to you pointing it out is liberal socialism and communism. Jesus do you actually believe your nonsense?
You came into this house. You disrespect the members by trolling and putting up a 2 bit argument about command economy that any idiot with 2 IQ point to rub together is gonna know will cause a spat.
Stop playing smart. You're not.
I don't need to make an insult to make an argument either. Who decides what is fair, and when is price gouging "gouging" Anyone forcing you to buy ammo at these prices? If you wanted to sue, what harm has been done to you?
"I know Pornography when I see it" as it were is your argument--well I guess we should elect your overlord of the universe.
You're a fuckwad. (I didn't need too, I added it free of charge--no price gouging here!).
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