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Well. I’m finally adding an Elite Sand AI AXSA to my collection thanks to @SBGreen0369! Shorty 308 proof carbon barrel and a 6.5cm barrel to start. She will be on her way to me on Tuesday hopefully and even more hopefully I’ll get her out to the range before I go back on hitch! Now I’ll have the real thing to go with my Vudoo!
Nice. 16” 308?
 
Is the proof worth the weight saving on the AI platform? A shorter barrel 308 and a 6.5cm barrel is on the list.
 
What do you do about this climate we are in? I was wanting to dip my toes in the AXSR water, currently have a ax308 and had a axmc. I sold the axmc and wish I didn't.

I am trying to figure out what the easiest round to add right now. Can find loaded Prime 338LM ammo for $2.85/rd (cheaper then buying brass and loading myself). However a 300win or 300NM would fit my needs better. Already loading 300wsm, so have all the components except brass. Right now I'm limited to 1350yds, but that could grow soon. I would prefer a 300NM and only add a barrel to go to 338. Or go 338 and add a 300NM barrel.

Eventually I'd like to have a 6.5cm, 300, & 338. The 300 and 338 are still TBD as far as Winchester, Norma or Lapua.

Wife already squashed the ASR plan.
I think you answered it. Since you’re already a reloader... get AXSR in 300 Norma now, add 338 barrel anytime for when you want to shoot factory for <$4 / rd.

And 6.5 barrel later...if you think you need to. Personally I’d add that to your AX308 instead.

Edit: Recommendation is assuming your AX308 is post-14. If not, 6.5 barrel for AXSR makes sense.
 
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Is the proof worth the weight saving on the AI platform? A shorter barrel 308 and a 6.5cm barrel is on the list.
I’ll let ya know. I have that short carbon 308 barrel coming and a 24” 6.5cm AI barrel. They’re going to both be run with my ultra 9.
 
I think you answered it. Since you’re already a reloader... get AXSR in 300 Norma now, add 338 barrel anytime for when you want to shoot factory for <$4 / rd.

And 6.5 barrel later...if you think you need to. Personally I’d add that to your AX308 instead.

Edit: Recommendation is assuming your AX308 is post-14. If not, 6.5 barrel for AXSR makes sense.


My ax308 is a post '14. So it has the quick change barrels. I have built a custom in 6.5cm, as well as bought a hunting rifle in 6.5cm for my son, so I'm committed on getting setup in that caliber already. I have a second bolt that I was planning on doing 223 conversion, so if the 264prc is a option I might go that way.

I don't see a 300NM available now is the problem. So my options would be get a 338Lapua, 338Norma or 300win.
 
those look great. did you buy that case foam pre cut? or did you custom do that? love the looks of the heavy duty type foam cases.

i would also like to know, as that looks like the good closed cell foam. its tough to find that stuff other than in 1" thick layers. would love to know who can and will do custom cut and fitting of the closed cell foam.
 
those look great. did you buy that case foam pre cut? or did you custom do that? love the looks of the heavy duty type foam cases.

It's a Case Club case with precut foam. It was for the AXMC with a S&B scope. I had to do a few alterations to get things to fit with my setup.
 
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i would also like to know, as that looks like the good closed cell foam. its tough to find that stuff other than in 1" thick layers. would love to know who can and will do custom cut and fitting of the closed cell foam.


It came from case club. It seems to be several layers of the closed cell foam glued together. The case I ordered was for the AXMC rifle. I have altered it a little by cutting out some of the foam that was there to make certain items fit. I asked if they could alter the original foam a little to accommodate some other items but they could not. If I wanted one specific I had to order 10 cases and then I could specify how I wanted the foam to be cut.
 
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i would also like to know, as that looks like the good closed cell foam. its tough to find that stuff other than in 1" thick layers. would love to know who can and will do custom cut and fitting of the closed cell foam.
Amazon prime has the 2” thick closed cell foam (the good stuff) for like $60 a sheet. Each sheet fits a large rifle pelican/storm case. This stuff was $40 a sheet last November when I ordered it.
 

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After this weekends match, my 6.5 is officially shot out at 2915 rounds down the pipe. Double checked my groups. 3+ inch group at 100 yards, and dropped my velocity by over 100fps. Screwed on the 308 barrel and now it’s time for hunting season.
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They run about $120 with $8 "do over" insurance and shipping. They have a CAD style design program you can use on their website to design your insert. After I made the first one, I used it as a base to design others from. Which is handy became you get an idea of how the deminsions really pan out once you actually receive it and stick a gun in it. If you like I might be able to send you my saved "project" for you to use as a base design. It's nice being able to take a spare barrel with you without it rattling around.
yeah man that would be awesome.
 
Morning I forgot to take a bolt handle measurements on my AX this morning.

Ax or axmc (post 2014)

what is the distance from the center of the bolt to the bottom of the bolt handle knob (how far down does it go when looking from the side)

What is the distance from center of the bolt to outside edge of bolt handle knob (how far does it stick out when looking from the top)

Thanks
 
Anyone in the engineering field explain what the advantages or disadvantages of an AI bolt head verse a standard two or three lug bolt head.
 
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Anyone in the engineering field explain what the advantages or disadvantages of an AI bolt head verse a standard two or three lug bolt head.
Also very curious about this. I was going to ask this question at some point today actually.
 
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Also very curious about this. I was going to ask this question at some point today actually.

I’m just wanted to nerd out in the technical stuff. I have a lot of projects I want to do. So it’s just one way to gain some knowledge
 
Tough question without drawings and AI Technical specs.
Is the six lug system designed for accuracy or Artic Warfare?
I think one key to accuracy is the epoxy bonding of the receiver to chassis and probably the tolerances to which the parts are designed and manufactured to along with QA and QC.
I know that was the feature I most liked when I purchased my AIAX this year.
You pay for the increased time to do all things to increased standards and QA/QC.
Weatherby introduced the 9 lug bolt for pressure retension, the Weatherby 6 lug Bolt is for non-Weatherby cartridges.
Can you shoot a Weatherby 300 Magnum in another action, sure, but the bolt lug surface has to be sized to handle the stress from firing along with the correct material.
But so far no one I know has used the Weatherby 300 Magnum as a Sniper Round!
The Winchester 300 Magnum appears to rule the roost.
I have a Rem Model 7 in 300 SAUM for hunting and it’s too light to shoot on the range but some Rem Law Enforcement models have been chambered in 300 SAUM but most now use the 300 Win Short Action Magnum.
So the more lugs, the smaller the lug can be, think of a single lug to hold the pressure, obviously it has to be big.
Weatherby wanted his Mark V to handle the increased pressures of his proprietary ammunition and of the handloaders who were testing the bounds of action strength.
I have only purchased one Weatherby Vanguard with 2 lugs in 30/06 having no desire to shoot the Weatherby 300 Magnum.
Now even the Vanguard is chambered in 300 Weatherby, so 9 lugs or 2 lugs, each can handle the pressure.
The Model 7 in 300 SAUM is for bear after 140gr 7mm-08 Nosler failed to break the off side shoulder of a small black bear from a Rem Model 7SS.
-Richard
 
Think about going from 2 to 6 lugs. Three times (300%) as many so they could reduce each lug contact area by a significant area but still increase the overall area by a significant percentage. The reduced amount of contact on each lug is what makes it easier to lift the bolt. The three lug design is used to have the 60 degree lift compared to 90 degree for 2 lug designs.

BTW, my 2012 AW has three lugs, standard bolt face. The magnums had 6 lugs. I don't know when they went to 6 lugs for all, probably during the switch barrel design change.
 
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Yes the 6 lug came back to the non magnum actions with the AT, they were in the original rifles also (the first design).
 
Sorry I’m a bit late to the hat discussion. I’ll have to find mine. I got it when I was in the UK last year. On mine, where it’s embroidered “finest sniper rifle” or whatever it says.... rifle is spelled wrong lol.

next thing, I have an AXMC, and I want to put a short(16”) barrel on it. Does anyone have one they can throw on, and get me a total overall length? Thanks
 
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Sorry I’m a bit late to the hat discussion. I’ll have to find mine. I got it when I was in the UK last year. On mine, where it’s embroidered “finest sniper rifle” or whatever it says.... rifle is spelled wrong lol.

next thing, I have an AXMC, and I want to put a short(16”) barrel on it. Does anyone have one they can throw on, and get me a total overall length? Thanks

You can't run a 16" tube with the full length axmc handguard you will need to find one for a axsa which is 13"...I already went down this road last year I think you can get away iirm with 17.5 with the factory length axmc 16" handguard...I guess technically you could run the 16" tube but like only 1/8" will be sticking out of the handguard
 
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You can't run a 16" tube with the full length axmc handguard you will need to find one for a axsa which is 13"...I already went down this road last year I think you can get away iirm with 17.5 with the factory length axmc 16" handguard...I guess technically you could run the 16" tube but like only 1/8" will be sticking out of the handguard

Now that you say that, I remember you talking about that. Thanks for the info. With the regular MC handguard, does 17.5 give you enough to grab on to to tighten the barrel?
 
Anyone in the engineering field explain what the advantages or disadvantages of an AI bolt head verse a standard two or three lug bolt head.

I believe it's because it gives a stronger action with a shorter bolt lift.
 
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Now that you say that, I remember you talking about that. Thanks for the info. With the regular MC handguard, does 17.5 give you enough to grab on to to tighten the barrel?
Don’t you have your MC in hand? The math is easy. Measure the length of the handguard (~16”) then add the tenon length (1.5”) and muzzle thread length (0.6”). Then add however much you want to stick out.

Don’t forget with the AX series you can remove the handguard when installing and uninstalling the barrel. It’s only 2 screws, so it’s not a big hassle to remove it. That way you could have an 18.25” barrel that you could still hand tighten, but only sticks out the front enough for the threaded muzzle shoulder to clear the handguard.
 
Maybe my search skills are lacking. What's the shortest usable barrel length one could fit in an ax chassis with 16" handguard for a rem700? Preferably with exposed threads
 
What are you looking to have on the end? A brake, a threaded break ready to accept a moderator. If an independent moderator, what moderator.... is it end of barrel or does it reflex down the barrel at all?
 
Clubsportmark, my current plan is a 20" barrel contoured for an aem5, which reflexes about 2.5" from the muzzle.

Sam, I should have known it would be that simple. I didn't know if the handguard had a nominal length like some on the market do. Some quick math says I should be ok, but barely.
 
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Well I finally took possession of my beautiful elite sand AX SA this evening. 16.5” proof carbon 308 barrel with my ultra 9. Headed to the range to sight it in and start load dev with 175 VLD targets
 
Its a tough place because the wind. All the places I can shoot longer distances are set up for shooting across valleys. The wind is never consistent, and hardly ever calm.

I ended up staying until it started getting dark. All in all it was a great day. Was only holding .5-1.4mil for wind at 700yds.
 
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Its a tough place because the wind. All the places I can shoot longer distances are set up for shooting across valleys. The wind is never consistent, and hardly ever calm.

I ended up staying until it started getting dark. All in all it was a great day. Was only holding .5-1.4mil for wind at 700yds.

That's good..a static range doesn't try your skills very much