I have a Hi Point with a $100 paint job
I paid $176 for it and it’s got $1600 printed on it. It’s called investing fellas, look it up.
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SubscribeI have a Hi Point with a $100 paint job
I paid $176 for it and it’s got $1600 printed on it. It’s called investing fellas, look it up.
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I am really shocked they did not give the M9A3 a harder look, they run so reliably with a Can it’s almost scary. IMHO I feel the M9 > sig and glock. I personally can pick up the M9 and shoot it much better and the feel is much better than both Sig and Glock. But on the flip side of this take the M9 out of the equation I can also shoot the glock better than the sig. Not sure what all the hype was about the Sig. I feel the M9A3 is one of the more quality pistols I’ve ever been around!
I guess I can kind of see that. I don’t honestly feel like my M9 is all that heavy it’s certainly heavier than the sig no doubt.One bit of info I got from someone who used both (I guess the previous issued m9) was size and weight. She's probably 5' 100lb, and greatly preferred the sig for both carrying and shooting over the beretta. When the pistol spends 99% of the time being carried, weight adds up.
LOL that tells me all I need to know
Plenty of women in all branches
Looks like 308ButtPirate is angry that even the WUBAs let him keep his InCel card.
Beretta had a product improved M9 that they presented to the DoD. They had implemented many good changes and offered them .Gov a good price for upgrades. But the Army was stuck on the different grip size requirment along with needing RDS and Suppressor mounting options.They should have chosen the Beretta 92.
If anyone paid attention to the recent small little conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, it was all about the unmanned Kamikaze drone, and the need to defend against them.
Hi,
Not following what that has to do with pistols...am I missing something?
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Theis
I believe that the Army surveyed the soldiers coming back from the Sandbox as to how much they trusted their gear and equipment. While the M4 got thumbs up from the vast majority of GIs, something to the tune of 80% approval, M9 was exactly the opposite. So, it seems that they listened to the soldiers for once, which is a good thing in my book.Beretta had a product improved M9 that they presented to the DoD. They had implemented many good changes and offered them .Gov a good price for upgrades. But the Army was stuck on the different grip size requirment along with needing RDS and Suppressor mounting options.
The Marines even fielded a M9 magazine that perfromed well in sand enviroments.
Pistol training has gotten better across the services thanks to the last 20 years of GWOT from many guys I've talked too, but in the end, Pistols will still get a low priority on training and qualification because that's just the way it is. Small Arms Is just not the big killer on the battlefield. HE is.
I believe that the Army surveyed the soldiers coming back from the Sandbox as to how much they trusted their gear and equipment. While the M4 got thumbs up from the vast majority of GIs, something to the tune of 80% approval, M9 was exactly the opposite. So, it seems that they listened to the soldiers for once, which is a good thing in my book.
Besides the locking block I always trusted that the m9 would function. Interesting to hear many others didn’t.
I'm not going to lay out a bunch of details about Group. But we don't have M9's. The biggest point is that you obviously aren't in Group and you're trying to sound knowledgeable on a public forum spreading information like you know. And you don't. Guessing you were some sort of support guy and you're information sounds dated. You're half right and half wrong. Like someone said above, every unit, no matter how black side has to conform to acquisition rules. Because it matters what everyone does, in a community industry. See also: PSR program. There are a lot of venues to procure one-off guns without them being a program of record, though. A lot of what people purport as being some super special OAF gun is actually a no-cost loan for T&E. But Group doesn't always just use what's issued as a POR. It's more nuanced than that.
But the point is, rando civilian guy simply just doesn't have a need to know. No matter how curious you are. DGAF if this a forum....to wait for it....discuss guns n' such. It's just plain immaterial to you.
So then stop trying to talk about it. You're spreading false information trying make yourself sounding knowledgeable. That's poser behavior
It's amusing to see what some think is important or a matter of national securityI'm sure that America will sleep safer tonight knowing that no one knows what SF is using for handguns.
Painful to see. Are they trying to go back to Tea cupping?....I think they're moving in that direction. They've spent millions to select the pistol. Pistol handling...no so much.
Painful to see. Are they trying to go back to Tea cupping?....I think they're moving in that direction. They've spent millions to select the pistol. Pistol handling...no so much.
How many Glocks have been breaking ya know, since SOCOM has been running them for over a decade? How many of the millions of glocks in LEO service have broken the frame?Love sig and Glock. But the fact that the trigger control group is the serialized firearm was a major plus for the military. All the grunts breaking the polymer frame makes it easy to replace because its not serialized unlike the Glock. I have a 19x and its sweet but so are the sigs.
Lol I agree with everything you said. And my 19x is my favorite striker fire I own with p10c being a very close second. Glad glock released them to us.How many Glocks have been breaking ya know, since SOCOM has been running them for over a decade? How many of the millions of glocks in LEO service have broken the frame?
Sig just has more shit to get lost. Modular grip pannels? All this non serialized, non trackable shit will end up lost or in the trash. People will get what they have on hand and just wait till Joe starts trying to mod them. Its a disaster waiting to happen even if they selected someone other than SIG who is guarenteed to fuck it up.
I’ve had enough infantry guys show me their $300 AR’s with polymer lowers and $200 uppers to disagree with that. The SF dudes are the only ones who seem to be consistently knowledgeable on the technical stuff, their feedback is certainly important, but so is the engineers who are making these things.
SOCOM/USASOC safety bulletin regarding SIG M18 - AR15.COM
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Yea its their tier 1 unit. Sig already spinning excuses. I am going to say the equivelent of delta or st6 is not going to pull all guns over what sig claims is a simple ND. Much more to it.
Not to mention all the shit sig has already been caught lying about.
The firearm involved has been extensively tested by SIG SAUER and it has been determined to be safe. The investigation revealed the use of an incorrect holster not designed for a P320. The use of a modified P226 holster created an unsafe condition by allowing a foreign object to enter the holster, causing the unintended discharge.
Yea its really hard to believe a Tier 1 element with that level of training would deadline a weapon system over what they claim is a ND using a modified holster.SIG SAUER Statement on CANSOFCOM Incident | Soldier Systems Daily
Yesterday, a Canadian news outlet, CBC News, published a story regarding the unintended discharge last year of a SIG P320 by a Canadian Special Operator, re ...soldiersystems.net
Interesting if true. You would think a tier 1 unit wouldn't be refitting kydex P226 holsters to use with their p320s. FTR, I have no idea if it is true or not.
Yeah, seems really dubious. If true, whoever couldn't get them real holsters should be tarred and feathered.Yea its really hard to believe a Tier 1 element with that level of training would deadline a weapon system over what they claim is a ND using a modified holster.
These guys get all the gucci gear they want and know better.
I can't imagine a shitty LE agency trying to modify holsters much less a SMU.
Yea its really hard to believe a Tier 1 element with that level of training would deadline a weapon system over what they claim is a ND using a modified holster.
These guys get all the gucci gear they want and know better.
I can't imagine a shitty LE agency trying to modify holsters much less a SMU.
Its possible but at that level, they aren't asking for $100K optics, its a $50 holster.Considering how little money Canada spends on national defense, I do think it's within the realm of possibility that even their most elite force could not afford to buy the right holsters.
And if that's the case, soliders might have done what soldiers do when they don't have something they need: adapt, improvise, and overcome.
Give me a toaster oven, a kydex holster, and a pistol that doesn't fit in it............................
Have an even harder time seeing the service dealine a brand new weapon system due to what Sig claims is purely operator error (one that can happen with any gun).