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guess we will see. just like wuhan lab, im afraid much has been algorithmed out of our purview.

debunked/rebunked type stuff...

either way the audits are a win/win, right? at minimum to build back some confidence. seems the least that can be done...
I fully support the audits. I hope they come out for the good guys.

My problem with a lot of the earlier theories is that they were seriously flawed on their face, which made me more dubious of the rest of them. viz. if you are leading with theory A, and I can personally punch a dozen holes in it, then why would I give the benefit of the doubt to your secondary and tertiary theories. In a sense, it is falsus in uno falsus in omnibus.

But like I have said, and like you have mentioned, I am more than open to hard evidence of fraud. Not open to arguments along the lines of "if they didn't do X, why don't they want to talk about it?"

And, if you look at any post I made about the lab leak, I believe it would have read something like, "high probability that it came from a lab, low probability it was an engineered weapon." I stand by that.
 
thats fair. but i also tend to consider its a datapoint when someone fights you tooth and nail...could it be that they hiding something?

or perhaps the dems just want to fight at every step just for the fuck-it-all lulz. thats a possibility too...

sometimes the overall contextual view is useful. the aggregate. sometimes not, i suppose.

glad you support the audits, given how vocal you were about how fraud or just general fuckery was mouthbreather conspiracy.

maybe there will be closure..., maybe not.

ive also said over and over that manipulation of state election laws was the underlying and most enabling of issues...but that doesnt seem to draw much attention...
 
thats fair. but i also tend to consider its a datapoint when someone fights you tooth and nail...could it be that they hiding something?

or perhaps the dems just want to fight at every step just for the fuck-it-all lulz. thats a possibility too...

sometimes the overall contextual view is useful. the aggregate. sometimes not, i suppose.

glad you support the audits, given how vocal you were about how fraud or just general fuckery was mouthbreather conspiracy.

maybe there will be closure..., maybe not.

ive also said over and over that manipulation of state election laws was the underlying and most enabling of issues...but that doesnt seem to draw much attention...
Nobody hires 100 lawyers to hide a win.
 
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well @Choid, for the wuhan lab...lets take the same simple approach. most of those threads are deleted...long gone, but i have no reason to doubt what you say...

if the lab was doing gain of function experimentation, do you honestly believe it was research for greater humanity...or, were there other more nefarious intentions as well?

hypothetically of course...

however, i do not believe the release was intentional (or hope to god it wasnt) or a bio attack...but still became gods gift to the left. just not from the gods in the traditional meaning...
 
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well @Choid, for the wuhan lab...lets take the same simple approach. most of those threads are deleted...long gone, but i have no reason to doubt what you say...

if the lab was doing gain of function experimentation, do you honestly believe it was research for greater humanity...or, were there other more nefarious intentions as well?

hypothetically of course...

however, i do not believe the release was intentional or a bio attack...
It was a plandemic. Gates foundation literally had a conference on exactly this scenario just months before China virus struck. WHO was in on it as well.
 
It was a plandemic. Gates foundation literally had a conference on exactly this scenario just months before China virus struck. WHO was in on it as well.
The world’s elites were all in on it. It’s the only explanation for every country in the world to react in the exact same way almost at the exact same time which was to destroy their economies by shutting down businesses and order their police forces to attack the citizens of their countries which they gladly did.
 
Event 201.




Event 201​

The Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in partnership with the World Economic Forum and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation hosted Event 201, a high-level pandemic exercise on October 18, 2019, in New York, NY. The exercise illustrated areas where public/private partnerships will be necessary during the response to a severe pandemic in order to diminish large-scale economic and societal consequences.
Statement about nCoV and our pandemic exercise
In recent years, the world has seen a growing number of epidemic events, amounting to approximately 200 events annually. These events are increasing, and they are disruptive to health, economies, and society. Managing these events already strains global capacity, even absent a pandemic threat. Experts agree that it is only a matter of time before one of these epidemics becomes global—a pandemic with potentially catastrophic consequences. A severe pandemic, which becomes “Event 201,” would require reliable cooperation among several industries, national governments, and key international institutions.
Event 201 discussions


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World Economic Forum logo
Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation logo
 
That is your smoking gun if you have two brain cells.

im sitting with only a single-cell.

im personally not ready to make that connection.

but there isnt much debate that gates is balls-deep in lots of this stuff. in coordination with those you mention.

however, not sure i can call people who have made that connection SkiTzo nUtZ either...

the disinfo campaigns sure make things difficult. and to think...its going to get worse...
 
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im sitting with only a single-cell.

im personally not ready to make that complete connection.

but there isnt much debate that gates is balls deep in lots of this stuff. in coordination with those you mention.

however, not sure i can call people who have made that connection SkiTzo nUtZ either...

the disinfo campaigns sure make things difficult. and to think...its going to get worse...
December of 19 is when the conference was.

how long does it take to put something like that together? Hint: more than a couple months.

do you really believe in coincidence this big? Santa and the Easter bunny too?
 
December of 19 is when the conference was.

how long does it take to put something like that together? Hint: more than a couple months.

do you really believe in coincidence this big? Santa and the Easter bunny too?

nah, i aint naive if thats what you are saying. im just a skeptic. and that skepticism plays both ways (there is a joke here)...

im also highly cynical like many of my last great generation-Xer counterparts, but thats another story lol...
 
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December of 19 is when the conference was.

how long does it take to put something like that together? Hint: more than a couple months.

do you really believe in coincidence this big? Santa and the Easter bunny too?
Explains how all of the models were ready to go (IHME and Imperial College) when it was go time.
 
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nah, i aint naive if thats what you are saying. im just a skeptic. and that skepticism plays both ways (there is a joke here)...

im also highly cynical, but thats another story lol...
I get it. Sitting on the fence waiting for more information. I’m telling you if you casually read a bit of anything not tied to MSM propaganda, it’s all right there. What literally surprised me was “conservative Republicans” who are as dirty or more than the Democrats.

at least with a Democrat I knew what to expect, but when those emails leaked between Pence and Paul Ryan? I was truly surprised.
 
This man is only partially right. Both sides did it and I don’t think it was just to get Trump out. It is a worldwide wealth and power grab.
if they get a vaccine passport, it is over. think about the control they have, not just over us, but everyone would be in one database and that database would control whether you are allowed to travel, or enter a stadium or concert hall, perhaps a movie theater or shopping mall.
if they decide you need another shot, or anything really, you will have to comply.
 
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well @Choid, for the wuhan lab...lets take the same simple approach. most of those threads are deleted...long gone, but i have no reason to doubt what you say...

if the lab was doing gain of function experimentation, do you honestly believe it was research for greater humanity...or, were there other more nefarious intentions as well?

hypothetically of course...

however, i do not believe the release was intentional (or hope to god it wasnt) or a bio attack...but still became gods gift to the left. just not from the gods in the traditional meaning...
So, I have to admit that at the time I had no idea what "gain of function" was, and I still don't really know what it is. I do know they study all sorts of bat diseases at that place, but I really can't tell you whether they are weaponizing them. I wouldn't be totally surprised if they were. I don't think they released it as a bioweapon.

Let me clarify what I said about mouthbreather conspiracies. I think that most of the theories put forth as proof, I can't say all because I don't know them all, have been trash. Especially the mathematical models that were first put forth in the first order, then that was debunked so the same theories were shifted to the second order. You are a smart man, and you realize that if somebody knows what they are talking about, they don't put the wrong version forward and wait to be corrected, only to have the right version in their back pocket. And, as I mentionoed, the constant argument by meme and innuendo. That doesn't pass muster anywhere serious. The witnesses who turn out to be frauds. "Employees" who turn out to be cleaning ladies. It is all really problematic, because anybody serious would put their best argument and their best evidence forward first. You give your elevator pitch, you don't wait to do that as a last resort. This has all looked like a conclusion that is searching for a fact, rather than a group of facts being coalesced into a conclusion.

But alas, I am more than happy to see the audits. If they produce actual evidence, then I will change my mind. But the arguments put forth so far have hurt the case rather than helped, and they have been as convincing, to me, as Bender's theory that I am a fed is, to me, when I am sitting here knowing I am not a fed.

I'm really not trying to be a dick. I am just being honest. And stop pulling me into this shit. I am trying to make friends around here now!
 
Night of election. Stop all counting until the next morning. But the counting didn't stop. All of a sudden, overnight, when the counting had stopped, Biden jumped into the lead. With hundreds of thousands of Biden only votes. Days go by, thousands of witnesses sign sworn testimony of voting malfeasance.

No evidence of voter fraud.
Wait...
No proof of voter fraud.
Wait...
Let's audit the vote.
Hire 100 lawyers to fight the audit.
Yeah...
 
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/sq...ay-hands-are-tied/XGXDEN6BTRAJFBKMPFGUBGXCXU/
Last paragraph is the money quote from City of Sammamish Chief of Police Dan Pingrey,

“Somehow these squatters who are living in this residence have as much rights as the homeowner. And that’s very difficult for any of us to understand,” Pingrey said. “It could happen again somewhere else and this is where people in communities really need to be diligent.”

Merriam-Webster:

diligent adjective

dil·i·gent | \ ˈdi-lə-jənt

: characterized by steady, earnest, and energetic effort : PAINSTAKING
 
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/sq...ay-hands-are-tied/XGXDEN6BTRAJFBKMPFGUBGXCXU/
Last paragraph is the money quote from City of Sammamish Chief of Police Dan Pingrey,

“Somehow these squatters who are living in this residence have as much rights as the homeowner. And that’s very difficult for any of us to understand,” Pingrey said. “It could happen again somewhere else and this is where people in communities really need to be diligent.”

Merriam-Webster:

diligent adjective

dil·i·gent | \ ˈdi-lə-jənt

: characterized by steady, earnest, and energetic effort : PAINSTAKING

Squatters moving into my yard? Police not able to do anything about it?

That's my falling down moment and things will get ugly.
 
She is a moron because she constantly finds a way to say something stupid enough to let Democrats wiggle out of whatever tight spot they have put themselves in.

See this is the problem. You seem to think that what matters in DC is that game of sound bite one-upmanship and political theater.
 
This is exactly how I would expect a fed pretending not to be a fed would deny that he isn’t spying in order to continue spying. Government trained? Yep 😉
Wade, I love 95% or more of your post, but if someone asked me to point out the fed on SH....without hesitation my answer would be you! I feel like you are secretly building your "killl dozer" as you post. Then I ask myself, who puts themself out there so close to that line on a public forum?
 
See this is the problem. You seem to think that what matters in DC is that game of sound bite one-upmanship and political theater.
I think what matters is different for different players, but I am honestly interested in what you are getting at.
 
Wade, I love 95% or more of your post, but if someone asked me to point out the fed on SH....without hesitation my answer would be you! I feel like you are secretly building your "killl dozer" as you post. Then I ask myself, who puts themself out there so close to that line on a public forum?
He got you there man. Lol
 
The four years of Trump bashing has created a monster. The censure of anyone who dares to speak their thoughts or beliefs that are not part of the group think is bad!!
A few mean tweets right now is more favorable to the reality of what is happening in DC. Fuckstick choid is a never Trump POS like cheney, Ryan, McLame, Romney and the rest of the repukian party.
See this is the problem. You seem to think that what matters in DC is that game of sound bite one-upmanship and political theater.
 
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Wade, I love 95% or more of your post, but if someone asked me to point out the fed on SH....without hesitation my answer would be you! I feel like you are secretly building your "killl dozer" as you post. Then I ask myself, who puts themself out there so close to that line on a public forum?
He got you there man. Lol
Yeah. I’m speechless.
 
I think what matters is different for different players, but I am honestly interested in what you are getting at.
What matters is to brutally expose democrats for what they are and for what they stand, even if it means being ridiculed every now and then.

The more this is done, the better the odds of retaking congress, checking Biden's admin, and (dare I hope) use the power of veto override to run the country from Capitol Hill rather than from PA Avenue until a properly elected President replaces the fraud living at 1600
 
This is one of the reasons why so many cowards in DC refuse to take a stand. We need courageous leaders not cowards. Same with Judges.


I wonder if Senator Paul would like to hire his own private security, and I don't just mean it in the defensive sense.........
 
What matters is to brutally expose democrats for what they are and for what they stand, even if it means being ridiculed every now and then.

The more this is done, the better the odds of retaking congress, checking Biden's admin, and (dare I hope) use the power of veto override to run the country from Capitol Hill rather than from PA Avenue until a properly elected President replaces the fraud living at 1600
I don't think you are wrong. I just think she needs to learn to shut up when the bad guys are hurting themselves, and then be useful when she can be. I like the vision, though.
 
The four years of Trump bashing has created a monster. The censure of anyone who dares to speak their thoughts or beliefs that are not part of the group think is bad!!
A few mean tweets right now is more favorable to the reality of what is happening in DC. Fuckstick choid is a never Trump POS like cheney, Ryan, McLame, Romney and the rest of the repukian party.
I'm not close to a Never Trumper. I am a pro-Trumper policy wise who despises Trump the man. But unlike the ones you mention, I can put my big boy pants on and vote for him. And unlike you, when he is no longer President, I can put my big boy pants on and support the best that we can do during the next time period.
 
Are you drunk already this morning. Making no sense here choida.
I don't drink, and it makes perfect sense. Being an adult sometimes requires understanding that you don't always get 100% your way, and when you don't, you have to suck it up and choose the better of the options you have, even if you can, at the same time, complain about your choices. But by not choosing, because you are not 100% satisfied, you are acting like a child, and that goes for being a never-Trumper of for being an nothing if not Trumper. It also goes for Libertarians on voting day.
 
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So when they parade out Jeb in the next election you will be sporting his button with pride. Cuz you are a republican and not a patriot. A third party will never work and the republican party is truly full of shit and not different from the democrat communists.
It's time for a major reset
I'm not close to a Never Trumper. I am a pro-Trumper policy wise who despises Trump the man. But unlike the ones you mention, I can put my big boy pants on and vote for him. And unlike you, when he is no longer President, I can put my big boy pants on and support the best that we can do during the next time period.
 
Truth. I've seen Gavin Newsom and Michael Savage having drinks together at the Washbag.

MTG is a moron. I am all for fighters, but she is just too fucking retarded for my taste.

Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Because Mitt Romney has been so effective in maintaining the Republic.

Doing the same thing over and over and failing is dumb.

Time to change tactics.
 
So when they parade out Jeb in the next election you will be sporting his button with pride. Cuz you are a republican and not a patriot. A third party will never work and the republican party is truly full of shit and not different from the democrat communists.
It's time for a major reset
No, man. I won't be happy with Jeb Bush, and I will do everything I can to get the most conservative person nominated. But I am also not going to vote for some Democrat, or not vote for a Republican, especially in non Presidential races, just because I am mad. I don't think it makes any sense. Hell, I'd vote for MTG if I lived in her district. So I don't disagree with you on what should happen, I just disagree with you on how to deal with it when it doesn't.
 
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I don't drink, and it makes perfect sense. Being an adult sometimes requires understanding that you don't always get 100% your way, and when you don't, you have to suck it up and choose the better of the options you have, even if you can, at the same time, complain about your choices. But by not choosing, because you are not 100% satisfied, you are acting like a child, and that goes for being a never-Trumper of for being an nothing if not Trumper. It also goes for Libertarians on voting day.
Sometimes compromise is too much of a compromise.
 
I don't drink, and it makes perfect sense. Being an adult sometimes requires understanding that you don't always get 100% your way, and when you don't, you have to suck it up and choose the better of the options you have, even if you can, at the same time, complain about your choices. But by not choosing, because you are not 100% satisfied, you are acting like a child, and that goes for being a never-Trumper of for being an nothing if not Trumper. It also goes for Libertarians on voting day.
And there you have it. We are acting like children because we don't accept getting fucked by the Romney's, Ryan's, turtle head from Kentucky and the rest of the "republican party above all else" Fucksticks.