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I don't support Liz Cheney. I said in every post about her that she had to go. She needs to make the discussion all about her, just like MTG does. I don't support that in any way, from anybody.

I voted for Trump twice. Not sure how that qualifies as not supporting him. I don't like him. That's different.

I didn't support McCarthy either. I honestly have zero opinion on him. I don't even necessarily support this statement. You go on and on about Jews not switching to the Republican party, and when you finally have a little momentum in that direction, which if you look at left wing Jewish intellectuals like Batya Unger Sargon etc, there was, the last thing you need is somebody on your side comparing everything to the Holocaust. Plus, the fucking stars were yellow. You get a gold star for spelling bees.

You might say, oh it doesn't matter, but look at how the Tories dealt with the Corbynization of Labour. Labour got like 8% of the Jewish vote last time, having been as strong with Jews as Democrats forever. The Tories simply did not shoot themselves in the foot. It's rule number one, if your opponent is digging their own grave, just watch them do it. Maybe American Jews are more set in their ways than English, but my guess is that is not the case.

At this point I am only on the team of relieving the Democrats of power. If I see something I think is counterproductive, I will oppose it.
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I yelled at the radio 3 times this week because the libs are going nuts about no Jan. 6th commission and keep repeating that several officers were killed. NO THEY WERE NOT. NO OFFICERS WERE KILLED BY UNLAWFUL TOURISTS ON JANUARY 6TH.

...but there was a tourist killed.
 
maybe?
They advertised all summer long "the most important election in history," spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the mail in ballot scheme, adjusted Dominion for the right percentage of votes to steal, and then when it came down to it, at 10PM they pulled the plug on the 5 democratic fraud cities because they underestimated again. Worse than in 2016 with Hillary, they screwed it up again and the exposed their whole fraud voting system to the world. It was a massive blunder and coupled with January 6th it has been a debacle of epic proportions.
Now they need to be hardcore, use all the blackmail and bribes they have, doxx and destroy, kill if need be, but they have too much invested to fail. Too many people are involved and it boils down to hundreds versus millions of people. Money versus patriotic people. The only question is who controls the military, the rank and file or the generals. Who makes the call to shoot and do they obey?
 
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It is a pretty dumb comparison. People would be well served not to compare everything to slavery, the holocaust, the holodomor, the Armenian genocide, etc. You can make points without that shit. It was a tactical mistake as well. And, as Tallyrand famously said, "worse than a crime, a mistake."
When people hear or think about the Holocaust, their first thoughts are of death camps. Greenes statement refers to labeling and identifying a group with stars vs masks, which are the precursors.
 
It is a pretty dumb comparison. People would be well served not to compare everything to slavery, the holocaust, the holodomor, the Armenian genocide, etc. You can make points without that shit. It was a tactical mistake as well. And, as Tallyrand famously said, "worse than a crime, a mistake."

Oh God. This fuckstain again.

No its a legit analogy.

Unlike the star though the tyrants are not currently enforcing your compliance with govt agency......instead they have empowered "Karens" and private business to make you comply.

Our Constitution still has enough power to limit such govt over reach but they have deputized others through regulation to fuck with us.

Tyrants like this end around the Constitution.

2A wont allow govt to outright ban guns so govt basically empowers banks to limit their financial ability to conduct business.

Weaken us, condition us, enough and they will do as they wish.
 
Twitter, facefuck, rooftops, local news maybe I missed what avenue to get the message out. Op-ed in the paper?
Water goes around a rock. It finds a way around what is in its path

Stop whining about the MSM and all the other shit in your path and find a way

I was trying to give you hints but you're evidently too fucking dense to get them.
 
And McCarthy should have kept his yap shut instead of going to mass media to shame her and try to get suck up points.
Shit like that is done behind closed doors.
It is a pretty dumb comparison. People would be well served not to compare everything to slavery, the holocaust, the holodomor, the Armenian genocide, etc. You can make points without that shit. It was a tactical mistake as well. And, as Tallyrand famously said, "worse than a crime, a mistake."
 
When people hear or think about the Holocaust, their first thoughts are of death camps. Greenes statement refers to labeling and identifying a group with stars vs masks, which are the precursors.

You cant have the second without first taking away the humanity of your intended victim.....

Remember......Bill Ayres.....who is involved in this is ready to kill 25 million.

 
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And McCarthy should have kept his yap shut instead of going to mass media to shame her and try to get suck up points.
Shit like that is done behind closed doors.
I agree 100%. It is the problem with Cheney, MTG and now McCarthy. Don't make yourself the story.
 
Oh God. This fuckstain again.

No its a legit analogy.

Unlike the star though the tyrants are not currently enforcing your compliance with govt agency......instead they have empowered "Karens" and private business to make you comply.

Our Constitution still has enough power to limit such govt over reach but they have deputized others through regulation to fuck with us.

Tyrants like this end around the Constitution.

2A wont allow govt to outright ban guns so govt basically empowers banks to limit their financial ability to conduct business.

Weaken us, condition us, enough and they will do as they wish.
OK, so first can we address the stupidity of calling them "gold stars" which you get for good behavior in grade school, instead of yellow stars, which is what Jews were forced to wear. It is not an insignificant difference to those of us whose families wore them.

Second, I understand the analogy, I just think it is a bad one at a bad time, strategy wise. When Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot with Jews around the country, and truly outing themselves as the party of Hamas, common sense says to let them continue, and don't get in the way. This was an unforced error. Again, look at how the Tories handled similar issues w/r/t Corbyn, and the results they got.

Finally, I can tell you that if you are trying to attract Jews to your side, don't compare everything to the Holocaust. Likewise, I would not suggest addressing a bunch of black people who were conservative curious and starting out with "Hey you guys, you should really support lower taxes, because taxes are JUST LIKE SLAVERY!!!" It no doubt would not be a good strategy, as good an analogy as it might be to you and me.

That is all I am saying. Strategy matters. Communications matter. Unless you are resolved to charging ahead into some ill conceived civil war, the way you deal with people who could be on your side matters.
 
I agree 100%. It is the problem with Cheney, MTG and now McCarthy. Don't make yourself the story.

Oh God. This fuckstain again.

So when are these other strategic/tactical geniuses like Pence going to fight?

They love being the cuckold because it brings in fundraising for "the next time".

but they never win "next time".

Their only "wins" have been from outside the establishment......Tea Party and Trump. Yet when shown the way they work to take down that which gave them some degree of victory.

Eat all the cock you want but I say "No thank you"

We can not spare this woman.......she fights!

If she is a drunk with power find out what whiskey she drinks so we can send a barrel to the other cock gobblers.
 
Oh God. This fuckstain again.

So when are these other strategic/tactical geniuses like Pence going to fight?

They love being the cuckold because it brings in fundraising for "the next time".

but they never win "next time".

Their only "wins" have been from outside the establishment......Tea Party and Trump. Yet when shown the way they work to take down that which gave them some degree of victory.

Eat all the cock you want but I say "No thank you"

We can not spare this woman.......she fights!

If she is a drunk with power find out what whiskey she drinks so we can send a barrel to the other cock gobblers.
Did you read anything I wrote? I didn't mention Pence, I didn't mention cuckolding or whatever. I gave my opinion on good vs bad communication strategy. And generally good strategy to throw your opponent a life preserver if he is drowning. That's all.
 
OK, so first can we address the stupidity of calling them "gold stars" which you get for good behavior in grade school, instead of yellow stars, which is what Jews were forced to wear. It is not an insignificant difference to those of us whose families wore them.

Second, I understand the analogy, I just think it is a bad one at a bad time, strategy wise. When Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot with Jews around the country, and truly outing themselves as the party of Hamas, common sense says to let them continue, and don't get in the way. This was an unforced error. Again, look at how the Tories handled similar issues w/r/t Corbyn, and the results they got.

Finally, I can tell you that if you are trying to attract Jews to your side, don't compare everything to the Holocaust. Likewise, I would not suggest addressing a bunch of black people who were conservative curious and starting out with "Hey you guys, you should really support lower taxes, because taxes are JUST LIKE SLAVERY!!!" It no doubt would not be a good strategy, as good an analogy as it might be to you and me.

That is all I am saying. Strategy matters. Communications matter. Unless you are resolved to charging ahead into some ill conceived civil war, the way you deal with people who could be on your side matters.
i do see the merits in your thinking, but i don't believe we can win the propaganda war by quietly repeating the truth and hoping people listen.
 
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i do see the merits in your thinking, but i don't believe we can win the propaganda war by quietly repeating the truth and hoping people listen.
I agree with you. Often we need to be louder, but sometimes we need to shut up. We should be much louder on all the school stuff, the COLLUSION with the teachers unions etc. We should be louder on the absolute BS surrounding the Covid origins. There are a lot of places to be aggressive, but my feeling is that there is a significant leadership vacuum, which makes for no coherent messaging, and which allows people to go OFF THE RESERVATION, which I would not say to a bunch of Native Americans who might be on my side because of pipeline dollars!!
 
OK, so first can we address the stupidity of calling them "gold stars" which you get for good behavior in grade school, instead of yellow stars, which is what Jews were forced to wear. It is not an insignificant difference to those of us whose families wore them.

Second, I understand the analogy, I just think it is a bad one at a bad time, strategy wise. When Democrats are shooting themselves in the foot with Jews around the country, and truly outing themselves as the party of Hamas, common sense says to let them continue, and don't get in the way. This was an unforced error. Again, look at how the Tories handled similar issues w/r/t Corbyn, and the results they got.

Finally, I can tell you that if you are trying to attract Jews to your side, don't compare everything to the Holocaust. Likewise, I would not suggest addressing a bunch of black people who were conservative curious and starting out with "Hey you guys, you should really support lower taxes, because taxes are JUST LIKE SLAVERY!!!" It no doubt would not be a good strategy, as good an analogy as it might be to you and me.

That is all I am saying. Strategy matters. Communications matter. Unless you are resolved to charging ahead into some ill conceived civil war, the way you deal with people who could be on your side matters.

Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Paragraph A Ill give you your terminology but your families history endows you with nothing. Bringing it up impresses me not a smidgen. Bring a survivor in the room and I will defer to them. Im guessing you have lived a life of privilege nothing like theirs.

You failure to realize that the Nazis didn't come out the day after the enabling laws and shout "everyone on the trains" and that we are currently being conditioned for a segment of the population to "hate" the other is a sad irony based on your family history you claim.

Being aware of history what was a good time for people to have resisted the Nazis and called them out for who they were 1920s, 1933, 1942?

They, and the current cabal were weakest in the early years. Chamberlain had he any balls could have prevented WWII and the German Generals would have killed Hitler themselves if Chamberlain had called Hitler's bluff.....they knew that Germany was not ready for peer to peer war.

Neither are the coup plotters prepared for real resistance right now. Police forces are losing experienced people at insane rates. I guess the military is also. What will replace them are critical race theory trained people that have been trained to "Obey" in a time when a segment of the population is looked on as "the enemy".

Democrats are not accountable for anything they say. Are you blind to this fact. They are receiving no bad flak for their violent crazy rhetoric. By the time the average mouth breather gets it the apparatus will be too strong.

You seem to advocate the tactic of "Bend but do not break". Kind of useless if you are bent by an implacable weight and there is never opportunity to spring back.
 
 
Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Paragraph A Ill give you your terminology but your families history endows you with nothing. Bringing it up impresses me not a smidgen. Bring a survivor in the room and I will defer to them. Im guessing you have lived a life of privilege nothing like theirs.

You failure to realize that the Nazis didn't come out the day after the enabling laws and shout "everyone on the trains" and that we are currently being conditioned for a segment of the population to "hate" the other is a sad irony based on your family history you claim.

Being aware of history what was a good time for people to have resisted the Nazis and called them out for who they were 1920s, 1933, 1942?

They, and the current cabal were weakest in the early years. Chamberlain had he any balls could have prevented WWII and the German Generals would have killed Hitler themselves if Chamberlain had called Hitler's bluff.....they knew that Germany was not ready for peer to peer war.

Neither are the coup plotters prepared for real resistance right now. Police forces are losing experienced people at insane rates. I guess the military is also. What will replace them are critical race theory trained people that have been trained to "Obey" in a time when a segment of the population is looked on as "the enemy".

Democrats are not accountable for anything they say. Are you blind to this fact. They are receiving no bad flak for their violent crazy rhetoric. By the time the average mouth breather gets it the apparatus will be too strong.

You seem to advocate the tactic of "Bend but do not break". Kind of useless if you are bent by an implacable weight and there is never opportunity to spring back.
I'm not trying to impress you. I am trying to impress upon you that how you say things can either attract or repel target audiences, that's all. And I would imagine my grasp of the historical situation is at least as good as yours. As I have repeatedly said, it is not my interest to get into pissing matches with people. It is my interest that Democrats lose the absolute reins of power that they currently have. I will advocate for anything that moves in that direction, and will advocate against anything I believe is helpful to their cause. That is all.

Well, not all. I am not an advocate of bend do not break strategy. You always want to pigeonhole me into something you understand, without trying to understand what I am saying. That is fine, because I think you probably don't care what I am saying. But don't confuse it with trenchant analysis.
 
We will now fly the flag of terrorist!
Fuck this shit! I'm going to email every fucking person I know and some I don't! :mad:
 
I agree with you. Often we need to be louder, but sometimes we need to shut up. We should be much louder on all the school stuff, the COLLUSION with the teachers unions etc. We should be louder on the absolute BS surrounding the Covid origins. There are a lot of places to be aggressive, but my feeling is that there is a significant leadership vacuum, which makes for no coherent messaging, and which allows people to go OFF THE RESERVATION, which I would not say to a bunch of Native Americans who might be on my side because of pipeline dollars!!
+1 but anytime somebody "on our side" criticizes another, the enemy uses this as fodder to imply that there is no solidarity in the party.
basically what mccarthy is doing is helping the enemy to silence us.
 
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+1 but anytime somebody "on our side" criticizes another, the enemy uses this as fodder to imply that there is no solidarity in the party.
basically what mccarthy is doing is helping the enemy to silence us.


McCarthy neither speaks for me nor would I listen to what he has to say.....same for the Turtle.

If on fire I wouldnt waste the piss to ease his problems.
 
Biden such a dipshit.

Steals a Cheney joke.

Says it wrong.

Than insults the graduating Coast Guard class for not laughing at his unintelligible joke.


Add......

Okay the White House media editing propaganda team is working in real time.

This is the news quote of the botched joke....

"At another point, he ribbed graduates for apparently failing to respond to an attempt he made to joke about inter-service rivalry when he mentioned the Navy.

He referenced the description of the Coast Guard as 'that hard nucleus around which the Navy forms in time of war', but didn't get a reaction.

'You’re a really dull class,' Biden joked. 'I mean, come on, man, is the sun getting to you?'

'I would think you'd have an opportunity when I say that about the Navy to clap,' he said. Then he got a laugh and the round of applause he was looking for. "

In the sound recording he leaves out the words "around which" so his comment was "The Coast Guard is that hard nucleus which the Navy forms in time of war" ...................a nonsensical statement. Is the Coast Guard just a Navy kidney stone?

Nice to see the White House is cleaning up his dementia speech to protect Xiden.

Clean up Xidens dementia speech in print or lose access.
Worst part is he stole it from Reagan, and couldn’t even recite it correctly... Yet if trump copied it, they’d all be up in arms over it
 
Toss her out.

Taxation without representation.

Let's hope her district starts enforcing its borders.
we have liberal members of congress openly supporting terrorist hamas, and do you hear pelosi or any democrat leadership saying shit?
nope, and maybe that is why they are in control.
 
Worst part is he stole it from Reagan, and couldn’t even recite it correctly... Yet if trump copied it, they’d all be up in arms over it


Heard the original might have been WWII time frame......have to research the original quote......I guess the faked up Biden version saves him from another plagiarism accusation.
 
we have liberal members of congress openly supporting terrorist hamas, and do you hear pelosi or any democrat leadership saying shit?
nope, and maybe that is why they are in control.


You realize my comment was in support of her?

If a district has its chosen rep thrown out without cause they should secede.
 
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