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BytorJr said:
Yes, the buck stops at the POTUS for the most part. However, the interesting thing about this is that Trump was a complete outsider to the "political swamp" and as such a lot of the people were probably suggested by the swamp. Not knowing "the game" so to speak was also a detriment as he didn't have full grasp on who is who (good, bad, indifferent) with regards to his policy.

Fast forward to somebody like a Ron DeSantis. He has the political insight and his own "team" that I'm sure by now he mostly trusts. Those folks understand the nuances and shit that makes our dirty government work (for right or for wrong...that's how it's done). Maybe they can clean it up; but that's going to take about 24-36 years of true conservative leadership. Hell, even 12 in a row COULD accomplish wonders. That said, The People are going to also have to vote true conservatives into Congress. If...and this is a big if...there can ever be an even remotely fair and unrigged election.
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Not going to get much disagreement from me here. I know a lot of people also did not want to work for him because they disliked him or his policies. Which, in a lot of ways, is better than working for him and doing a shit job. I'd add also that a lot of people don't realize how different the culture is between real estate development and high end politics. Hell, between real estate development and high end finance there is a culture chasm, and that is quadruple going into politics.

I like DeSantis a lot. I think people want to paint him as a more polished Trump, but I actually think he is better than that. He is more disciplined, probably bolder, knows issues much better, and when he doesn't know them, he learns rather than fakes it.
 
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Choid said:
I like DeSantis a lot. I think people want to paint him as a more polished Trump, but I actually think he is better than that. He is more disciplined, probably bolder, knows issues much better, and when he doesn't know them, he learns rather than fakes it.
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Mark the calendar, I agree with you. DeSantis comes across as much more intelligent, both intellectually and emotionally, than Trump historically has.
 
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I also think a lot of people blame Trump for the election; but, to me, it shows that whilst the commies are unified, the pubics are completely in disarray. For if they were a strong party, they'd have shut down any election law changes NOT going through legislature. But they acquiesced; most likely because they hated Orange Man too because they are again (pubics) a completely lost party. No long term plan, nothing. Take one election at a time type mentality.
 
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it may be turning

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Choid said:
Ha, is this your idea of keeping me in line? lol.

None of your responses are rebuttals of what I said, and I don't really dispute much of it, though I think Sessions was a fool rather than a tool. That said, I literally know people who were telling him not to hire those people, who were telling him that McMaster, who had his faults, would be far more loyal to him than Bolton (and in the end he was probably the closest to fair to Trump.). Personnel is policy, in the end. He made those decisions, and a lot of his problems came from those decisions, but that is what management is, in the end.

Biden is a disaster. How many times do we all need to say that? It's true, but it doesn't take away from Trumps inability to put good people in place. It's true for the President of a company, as much as it is true for the President of a country.

Look, if your HVAC company burns down your building, and the owner says, oh, sorry, that was my sister in laws step son and she made me hire him, but he definitely does too much meth and he would end up in jail if he lost his job, so it isn't my fault, what do you say? Of course it is is fault. It is his company. His personnel. The fucking buck stops somewhere.
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Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Who didnt cheer when Mattis was hired?

or when Kelly became COS? Priebus was a lame pick but Trump has to allow the Repukes their man I guess.

Sessions was absolutely solid as a Senator who'd a thunk he would become a milk carton candidate as AG?

Never knew much about McMaster but he had the keys to the vault and despite crimes we are certain of he was content playing his cricket song and leaving everything else alone, letting his newtwork continue its operations against the People but not really doing much to guard the Republic....just a swamp agency established to protect the swamp.

There is less evidence of Trump breaking any law but look at the investigations...

How about Hillary? Do we doubt she abused classified, ran an unlawful system to avoid FOIA?

I want to know what guys like Mike Rodgers and Carter Ham have been so silent about and why. If it were not for Rodgers I cant fathom how bad the resistance would have been.

Rodgers lead NSA and at least he had the balls to speak up and warn Trump of the spying at Trump Tower.
 
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pmclaine said:
Oh God. This fuckstain again.

Who didnt cheer when Mattis was hired?

or when Kelly became COS? Priebus was a lame pick but Trump has to allow the Repukes their man I guess.

Sessions was absolutely solid as a Senator who'd a thunk he would become a milk carton candidate as AG?

Never knew much about McMaster but he had the keys to the vault and despite crimes we are certain of he was content playing his cricket song and leaving everything else alone, letting his newtwork continue its operations against the People but not really doing much to guard the Republic....just a swamp agency established to protect the swamp.

There is less evidence of Trump breaking any law but look at the investigations...

How about Hillary? Do we doubt she abused classified, ran an unlawful system to avoid FOIA?

I want to know what guys like Mike Rodgers and Carter Ham have been so silent about and why. If it were not for Rodgers I cant fathom how bad the resistance would have been.

Rodgers lead NSA and at least he had the balls to speak up and warn Trump of the spying at Trump Tower.
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Now do John Bolton.

The point being other people being shitty doesn't mean that Trump was terrible at personnel. The CEO is responsible for his staff. Arguing otherwise is, frankly, embarrassing.
 
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BullGear said:
Don't have to to watch. What's the gist?
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The data transfers during the elections were recorded in real time. China hacked into the systems thousands of times on election night. 20 hacks out of the thousands were singled out in the they video. These twenty alone would change the outcome of the election. This information cannot be faked or duplicated as it is all in real time. Mike Lindell has had this information given to him long ago and hired a forensic team to verify and re-verify the evidence that he is just now bringing forward. He says this is the reason he has been unwavering throughout all of his criticism.
 
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You know, it really all depends on how you look at Trump's presidency. If nothing else he prevented Hillary from ever becoming president. That by itself is a monumental accomplishment. But I do believe with the failure of the Biden presidency, Trump will spearhead a great 2022 and an even better 2024.
 
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wade2big said:
The data transfers during the elections were recorded in real time. China hacked into the systems thousands of times on election night. 20 hacks out of the thousands were singled out in the they video. These twenty alone would change the outcome of the election. This information cannot be faked or duplicated as it is all in real time. Mike Lindell has had this information given to him long ago and hired a forensic team to verify and re-verify the evidence that he is just now bringing forward. He says this is the reason he has been unwavering throughout all of his criticism.
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Thanks!
 
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wade2big said:
The data transfers during the elections were recorded in real time. China hacked into the systems thousands of times on election night. 20 hacks out of the thousands were singled out in the they video. These twenty alone would change the outcome of the election. This information cannot be faked or duplicated as it is all in real time. Mike Lindell has had this information given to him long ago and hired a forensic team to verify and re-verify the evidence that he is just now bringing forward. He says this is the reason he has been unwavering throughout all of his criticism.
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I think Mike Lindell is a Patriot but when your image is "The Pilow Guy" it is tough to get traction as "Savior of the Republic".
 
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theLBC said:
thefederalist.com

GOP Legislators Demand DOJ Answer For Russia Hoaxer Susan Hennessey's Appointment

GOP lawmakers said Susan Henneessey deleted hundreds of tweets "to conceal inconvenient information" prior to her DOJ appointment.
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"Demanding" and getting nothing.......story of the GOP.

They should have Trey Gowdy (I know he is not in Congress anymore - thankfully) go out and bark like the toothless dog he is.

Is Lindsey G. going to come out of hiding and scream about this?

Where did he disappear to? Epstein Island?
 
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pmclaine said:
"Demanding" and getting nothing.......story of the GOP.

They should have Trey Gowdy (I know he is not in Congress anymore - thankfully) go out and bark like the toothless dog he is.

Is Lindsey G. going to come out of hiding and scream about this?

Where did he disappear to? Epstein Island?
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GOP needs to close shop. Needs to be a page in history and something new and truly EPIC become the new party which is devoted to REPUBLICANISM which would include strict adherence to COTUS, BoR, and a fucking balanced budget, term limits, awesome defensive/offensive military/national defense capabilities, secure borders, and LEGIT elections via MASSIVE changes in voter ID laws which would include NO mail in votes, VOTE in person only with valid ID, inked thumb/digit, and no early voting. Sorry, if one thinks their vote is important, they'll make sure they go in person - exceptions I guess could be made for invalids where there is proof positive.
 
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BytorJr said:
GOP needs to close shop. Needs to be a page in history and something new and truly EPIC become the new party which is devoted to REPUBLICANISM which would include strict adherence to COTUS, BoR, and a fucking balanced budget, term limits, awesome defensive/offensive military/national defense capabilities, secure borders, and LEGIT elections via MASSIVE changes in voter ID laws which would include NO mail in votes, VOTE in person only with valid ID, inked thumb/digit, and no early voting. Sorry, if one thinks their vote is important, they'll make sure they go in person - exceptions I guess could be made for invalids where there is proof positive.
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sad thing is that the "Legacy" GOP has a great history too bad "New GOP" has nothing to do with it.
 
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Civics is not your strong point. Neither is the workings of politics inside the beltway.
Please tell us all about the repukian party's help with the transition to Trump. Please enlightened us.
Funny that a dementia riddled pedophile can place a cabinet within days because the party helped.
So please let us All in on the secret ways that the republicans helped Trump.
Your stench arrives way before you.


Choid said:
You absolute fool. He paraded those cocksuckers around from rally to rally, calling them "His Generals" and promising only the "very best people." The senate consents to the President's choices. And they did. He lost literally three Republican votes for all of his key nominees https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/compare/1/trump-nominations. Every one was confirmed. He picked them, he got them.

So your argument is that he can't tell the difference between good advice or bad advice? Not sure that makes the point you are trying to make. lol.
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Do you honestly think that he was not consulted by the repukian party leadership on his picks and who they would approve?
You are a bigger idiot than I originally thought.
 
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Say what we will about all the other cabinet picks - Sessions and Bolton were two very strange selections for a president who was strongly against foreign military intervention and in favor of criminal justice reform.
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Civics is not your strong point. Neither is the workings of politics inside the beltway.
Please tell us all about the repukian party's help with the transition to Trump. Please enlightened us.
Funny that a dementia riddled pedophile can place a cabinet within days because the party helped.
So please let us All in on the secret ways that the republicans helped Trump.
Your stench arrives way before you.



Do you honestly think that he was not consulted by the repukian party leadership on his picks and who they would approve?
You are a bigger idiot than I originally thought.
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I'm interested, oh wise one. Please do tell me how it works inside the beltway. Clearly, you have many contacts in government, have much influence and have been there and done that. I bow before your great knowledge.

And riddle me this, oh genius of geniuses. If the issue with Trump's cabinet, which was actually approved more quickly than Biden's has been, why were all of his worst appointments officials who did not require any Senate consent? See that's what confuses me. Priebus, Kelly, Spicer, Bannon, Scaramucci (l o fucking l,) Bolton (l o fucking l,) Kellyanne (again l o fucking l.). You can wait and wipe the orange cum off of your face before you answer, because you literally could not pick a worse lot than these folks.
 
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E. Bryant said:
Say what we will about all the other cabinet picks - Sessions and Bolton were two very strange selections for a president who was strongly against foreign military intervention and in favor of criminal justice reform.
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And Bolton needed no approval, so nobody else to hang that one on. The people he appointed who needed no approval were arguably worse than the ones who did, which puts the total lie to all this bullshit. Bring me one fucking Scaramucci please, with a side of Rob Porter and a beaten wife.
 
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Where was your great party advising him on those people? Why didn't they say.... Let's put these people in place and get the border fixed, the budget under control, the trade deficit turned around, let's get American Citizens employed and off welfare,.....
Choid said:
I'm interested, oh wise one. Please do tell me how it works inside the beltway. Clearly, you have many contacts in government, have much influence and have been there and done that. I bow before your great knowledge.

And riddle me this, oh genius of geniuses. If the issue with Trump's cabinet, which was actually approved more quickly than Biden's has been, why were all of his worst appointments officials who did not require any Senate consent? See that's what confuses me. Priebus, Kelly, Spicer, Bannon, Scaramucci (l o fucking l,) Bolton (l o fucking l,) Kellyanne (again l o fucking l.). You can wait and wipe the orange cum off of your face before you answer, because you literally could not pick a worse lot than these folks.
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Choid said:
And Bolton needed no approval, so nobody else to hang that one on. The people he appointed who needed no approval were arguably worse than the ones who did, which puts the total lie to all this bullshit. Bring me one fucking Scaramucci please, with a side of Rob Porter and a beaten wife.
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He was hung out by your party. I will guess that many decent people knew that their lives would be over if they accepted a position. Screwed by both parties.
So you just keep sucking the republican dick and living in denial of their corrupted way
 
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DarnYankeeUSMC said:
Where was your great party advising him on those people? Why didn't they say.... Let's put these people in place and get the border fixed, the budget under control, the trade deficit turned around, let's get American Citizens employed and off welfare,.....



He was hung out by your party. I will guess that many decent people knew that their lives would be over if they accepted a position. Screwed by both parties.
So you just keep sucking the republican dick and living in denial of their corrupted way
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Lol. So your excuse for Trump is that he didn't know good advice from bad? That isn't exactly what I look for in a CEO. I literally know four people who personally tried to talk him out of hiring John Bolton. George Freaking Bush tried to talk him out of hiring John Bolton. Who do you hang that turd on?

And those morons he had working his "election fraud" cases? Rudy? Sydney Powell? Lin Fucking Wood? Not one election case ever worked between the lot. But only the best people. Always the best.

I think the guy had some fine ideas, and he did some fine things, but his personnel management was garbage upon garbage. I don't even want to get into Javanka, who were clearly not brought on board by the Republican establishment. I think they are fine people, but they were hardly the ones pushing him to curb immigration. It's ok that you love a President who had bad faults. Just breathe through it.
 
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@Choid ,
Do you deny that there were 9 republicans on the house intelligence committee that listened to the behind door classified interviews with clapper, brennan, Comey and others?
Why did they NOT put an end to the Russian hoax? Things that make you go hmmmm? Why would sessions recused himself from the Russian hoax and all things russia? Because he's part of the scumbags in the repukian party.
 
#10,440
DarnYankeeUSMC said:
@Choid ,
Do you deny that there were 9 republicans on the house intelligence committee that listened to the behind door classified interviews with clapper, brennan, Comey and others?
Why did they NOT put an end to the Russian hoax? Things that make you go hmmmm? Why would sessions recused himself from the Russian hoax and all things russia? Because he's part of the scumbags in the repukian party.
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I'll tell you what. I'll offer you a deal.

I am happy to agree with you that the Republicans on the Intelligence Committee, both house and senate, were near treasonous in allowing that charade to go on having seen the testimony.

I honestly believe that Sessions recused himself not because he was disloyal to Trump, but because he has never been the smartest guy in the room. I think he got played.

Now, you have to explain to me how Trump hired John Bolton, Steve Bannon and the Mooooooooch. Because none of those guys had anything to do with the institutional Republican party, and they were probably the three most poisonous characters in the entire administration.

BTW, you think I like the Republican party, but you are wrong. I just don't have any problem admitting that at their worst, they are a better choice than any Democrat. I happily supported and voted for Trump. Even tried to convince people here to do that before the election. But not understanding his massive shortcomings is folly. I am all for calling each other cunts and pieces of shit and whatever, but eventually it does get boring, since we are about a cunts hair from agreement on most things, and on policy, which actually matters, probably less than that.
 
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Trump is a Village Idiot.
Should never have been POTUS as well.
That's a combination that America is still suffering from.
He was voted out in a fair election.
Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean it was rigged.
He didn't "Clean out the Swamp", he sat on a lily pad, and played King Toad.
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GrumpyOleFart said:
Trump is a Village Idiot.
Should never have been POTUS as well.
That's a combination that America is still suffering from.
He was voted out in a fair election.
Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean it was rigged.
He didn't "Clean out the Swamp", he sat on a lily pad, and played King Toad.
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oh look, another fucking retard.
 
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GrumpyOleFart said:
Trump is a Village Idiot.
Should never have been POTUS as well.
That's a combination that America is still suffering from.
He was voted out in a fair election.
Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean it was rigged.
He didn't "Clean out the Swamp", he sat on a lily pad, and played King Toad.
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We did away with you in the 18th Century......no need for you to still hang around.
 
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GrumpyOleFart said:
Trump is a Village Idiot.
Should never have been POTUS as well.
That's a combination that America is still suffering from.
He was voted out in a fair election.
Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean it was rigged.
He didn't "Clean out the Swamp", he sat on a lily pad, and played King Toad.
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Worry about Australia. You guys have have plenty gov’t problem to worry about yourselves. I couldn’t name one person of importance from Australia because ya’ll don’t matter.

I take that back, I know crocodile Dundee and Steve Irwin.
 
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GrumpyOleFart said:
Trump is a Village Idiot.
Should never have been POTUS as well.
That's a combination that America is still suffering from.
He was voted out in a fair election.
Just because you don't like the results, doesn't mean it was rigged.
He didn't "Clean out the Swamp", he sat on a lily pad, and played King Toad.
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F==U dumb ass.
 
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Choid said:
Now, you have to explain to me how Trump hired John Bolton, Steve Bannon and the Mooooooooch. Because none of those guys had anything to do with the institutional Republican party, and they were probably the three most poisonous characters in the entire administration.
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Who else was going to take those spots knowing that their lives would be over. Their families and friends would go through the scrutiny of the pravda and the communists party. Look what they did to Amy Barret and Kavenaugh and several other people he picked. The media courted Trump during the primary thinking that they would crush him and the queen bitch would be enshrined. Once he was the candidate they went all out and tore his life apart. The media, the parties, the alphabet agencies didn't leave a stone unturned. Where was the repukian party to squash that?
So go ahead and tell us which people would volunteer to get their lives ruined? Again, where was the repukian party? Ohh I know? They were in the back room planning for this year's begging for money. In fact I just got another letter asking for more money. Promises of stopping the democrat communists and promises to continue with the Trump agenda, just send us some money and vote for us to gain control again.
 
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