Terminus Zeus/KRG Whiskey 3
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Might have to purchase the extra latch from KRG and sand it down bit by bit.
I'm running this combo but with 6GT. Only mag I could get to run reliably are the Magpul Polymer AICS.
I did try feeding a few dummy 6.5CM cartridges prior to barrel install (action and W3 lightly tightened down) and it seem to feed fine (with original mag latch and AW mag).
Have not tried it with a 6.5CM barrel installed yet.
I'm running this combo but with 6GT. Only mag I could get to run reliably are the Magpul Polymer AICS.
I did try feeding a few dummy 6.5CM cartridges prior to barrel install (action and W3 lightly tightened down) and it seem to feed fine (with original mag latch and AW mag).
Have not tried it with a 6.5CM barrel installed yet.
So it’s just the cartridge you are using that’s causing the feeding issues with the aw/aics mags?
and you got the original mag latch from krg to feed aw mags fine? So I might not need to get the extended latch and trim?
I’m running this combo and have had great success with aics mags and arc mags. Never tried aw mags
It could be the 6GT, this is just what I've experienced. Other folks may have had better luck. YMMV
The original mag latch, I meant the one that came with the chassis.
Try feeding without modifying anything first. If the bolt skips over any cases and fails to feed, you'll want the catch to be longer.
I haven’t had a single issue. I don’t run aics mainly as I love the arc in this set up. Slightly shorter 10 rd mag what’s not to love. They gave me a bit of issue at first but it wasn’t the chassis/action. It was the follower in the mag. I trimmed the follower and it feeds flawlessly!
With AICS pattern mags, there's a chance of the bolt binding on the rear feed lips while shooting off a rock/barrier where the magazine is pushed back/up (rearward). Again YMMV.
I find that the MDT ACC Chassis mitigates this very well. Their magwell is slightly tighter, front to rear. This helps keep the AICS mag from "rocking up" in the rear.
I find that the MDT ACC Chassis mitigates this very well. Their magwell is slightly tighter, front to rear. This helps keep the AICS mag from "rocking up" in the rear.
You in Canada? I deal with Tom at go big tactical too
Looks cool, hopefully I do t run into any issues, krg says aw mags can work great in the chassis with the latch trim and terminus says they work with aw mags, I do t want to get the action and have aw mags and aics mags not work properly
Only thing I can add about KRG chassis is that when I installed my chassis, after tightening the action screws, my bolt was bound up a little. (Did it on 2 different krg whiskey chassis, with 2 different actions).
Then I reached out to a buddy who had em and he enlightened me to the correct washer placement. (Perhaps I'm the only dipstick that didn't know this or read this).
For Rem actions, you have to run 2 washers on the front, and none on the back action screw. After I did that, it was butter... (zermatt actions)
Then I reached out to a buddy who had em and he enlightened me to the correct washer placement. (Perhaps I'm the only dipstick that didn't know this or read this).
For Rem actions, you have to run 2 washers on the front, and none on the back action screw. After I did that, it was butter... (zermatt actions)
It's not an action issue I'd say, it's a stock/chassis issue, specifically slop in the mag well. It lets the mag pivot a bit too much around the latch point when you push the front of the mag (like when you're leaned up against a barricade without a stop), which tips the rear feed lips a hair too high and the bolt hits them. There's a few fix options:
- Research which stocks/chassis don't do this and buy one of those
- File down the rear of the feed lips a bit to put a slope on them (go slow)
- Shim the rear of the mag well that fills some of the void, don't go too tight or the mag will be hard to insert/drop
- Buy chubbier mags, not sure which would help
You in Canada? I deal with Tom at go big tactical too
Yes sir I am. I’ve picked up a few things off Tom
How!
I just always ran the washers with my other chassis on both screws and I'm not really sure why it makes a difference in that respect but, it was a big change when I changed em around like that.
Good to hear. So if the system works flawlessly right now with aics mags and a surgeon action dies that mean that it will work the same with the Zeus? Because they are based on the same clone so I’m sure the bottom of the Zeus is the same dimensions as the surgeon.
I wouldn't assume that. My TL3 and Origin are both rem 700 clone actions, and of course the Surgeon is a different manufacturer but also a rem700. They require different washer set ups apparently... I would think that mag fitment stuff may vary from action and chassis to action and chassis. Some may require a little fit ment to run smooth and some may be great as soon as you slap em together... never really know but I've also not seen any that require some extensive work to get em to run smooth. That said, I don't know much about those actions as I run the Zermatt stuff. Someone else may can give better info on that.
Pretty sure @Covertnoob5 is running/has run this exact setup.
I ran my Vector in a Bravo for a while with AW mags. Zero issues after trimming the latch and adjusting the feed lips. Fed 6CM/308 without issue.
I ran my Vector in a Bravo for a while with AW mags. Zero issues after trimming the latch and adjusting the feed lips. Fed 6CM/308 without issue.
Nope. Every action chassis combo is different. And AW mags are a different beast all together. Only way to know is to actually try it. I did have to adjust feedlips on my AWs for certain chassis but not others even in 6.5 cm. My KMW sentinel never had to touch anything except mag latch height. Ram perfect in 6.5cm. My matrix I did have to adjust feedlips.
honestly tho once you get them setup I won’t ever run any mags other than AW. So many more advantages.
Usually feedlips if the rounds slams into the side of the breech face or something similar. If the mag feeds with some resistance or skips a rounds then it’s height.
Honestly you may also get lucky. With my ACC I never had to touch shit on my AWs with my vector. My buddy also tried mine and his AW mags on the LP Fuzion in his ACC and it fed 6.5cm like butter from the get go. No mods or anything.
Honestly you may also get lucky. With my ACC I never had to touch shit on my AWs with my vector. My buddy also tried mine and his AW mags on the LP Fuzion in his ACC and it fed 6.5cm like butter from the get go. No mods or anything.
I had to adjust the lips for the 6CM to run smoothly. 308 was fine. It is one of those things that you will need to test out. The 6CM would dive on the 2nd to last round each time and jam.
Start with the latch. Ensure you get tight lock up and that the rounds are feeing smoothly into the chamber from the first round to the last. If you have hiccups past that, then adjust the lips to ensure they all feed without issue.
IMO, once you get the AW mag set perfectly, they are the best mags.
very interesting, hope I do t run into to much hasten, krg says the whisky 3 runs great with a trimmed latch so I guess it will be all up to the feed lip. And I have no clue how to adjust them and what pasty’s of the lips because I know it’s different for different situations. Shitty thing is it’s like a 6 month to a year wait for aw mags in Canada and if I fuck it up I’m screwed lol
It may or may not. I can only speak to my experience. I'm not a gunsmith. Similar to above posts, you'll have to give it a try.
As for action washers, I only used what KRG recommended from their instructions. So maybe adding/removing x amount of washers may help. Just make sure there's enough thread contact.
AW mags shouldn't bind (against rear of feed lips) with that setup, but it may or may not have feeding issues. Your mileage may vary.
Just get the MPA feed lip tool and go slow. Either bend them in or out. Maybe just the rears. Maybe the fronts. Maybe the middle. Maybe one side or the other. Really just depends.
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