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And the sad reality is the consumers of the industry will talk about they are going to boycott, yada yada yada but nothing of any substance will come to fruition. Consumers as a whole have a super short term memory and fluctuate as bad as Dem news cycles.
The same "outrage" has been done a dozen times to a dozen companies and guess what....NONE of them are on the "boycott" list any longer although they have not changed their take on anything.
Looking at you S&W, Glock, Benchmade, Daniel Defense, Ruger, NRA, etc etc
Sincerely,
Theis
And the sad reality is the consumers of the industry will talk about they are going to boycott, yada yada yada but nothing of any substance will come to fruition. Consumers as a whole have a super short term memory and fluctuate as bad as Dem news cycles.
The same "outrage" has been done a dozen times to a dozen companies and guess what....NONE of them are on the "boycott" list any longer although they have not changed their take on anything.
Looking at you S&W, Glock, Benchmade, Daniel Defense, Ruger, NRA, etc etc
Sincerely,
Theis
You know this is untrue, right?
Wrong as in you don't know it is untrue, because it isn't true in the sense that it is not in line with facts. Congress and Judicial are exempt, because of separation of powers. Illegals aren't exempt in the sense that it only applies to people with jobs at 100+ employee companies* which includes pfizer, the USPS etc, and all of the executive branch agencies and staff are mandated. That's not a defense of the mandate, but of reality.
*in theory since the mandate hasn't come down yet.
O great another thread on this.
Who's cheerios did Hornady piss in? Everyone with 100+ employees is in the same boat! Why are we singling a good 2A company out?
OP is just starting shit.
Who's cheerios did Hornady piss in? Everyone with 100+ employees is in the same boat! Why are we singling a good 2A company out?
OP is just starting shit.
Um......you know there is no law requiring this?
Brandon can't just issue proclamations and there be forced compliance. Some agency in the executive has to make a determination and then take an enforceable action under existing public law.
And no agency has.
Brandon can't just issue proclamations and there be forced compliance. Some agency in the executive has to make a determination and then take an enforceable action under existing public law.
And no agency has.
I've stated this before; they do work with Fed, as such they'll have to meet this "Dec" deadline. Much like I was supposed to meet my Nov 1 deadline (blown that regardless of if I give in). I'm again, assuming there is an executive order.
Fact is, EVERY SINGLE POLITICIAN is GUILTY of MALFEASANSE. As soon as that fucking potato brained cucumber in office uttered his "mandate" the entire Congress should have said "NO." Not in your power to do so. CONGRESS passes the laws, not POTUS (or cucumber or pedo prez or whomever is in office). How many so-called Republicans have objected by writing something and getting a vote, regardless of it get shot down?? Then people are on record and supporting or not supporting. None. They're all pandering for money saying "when we take back the Congress....." bullshit. Same act as the last ohhhhh, 10-20.
So far the single company with any balls at all is In & Out and I’m eating lunch at one now.
THIS!!! SCREAMING FROM THE ROOFTOPS!!!! its just a false pressident asking in a way to make it sound like its official ....which is all it is.....an official request
Choid,
Congress, who is responsible for making/ creating bills that will ultimately become laws to govern the people of the country. The same country they are part of and elected to represent and do the will the people. So you are saying they are exempt from the bills/ laws they help creat and enact?
maybe, i read your post wrong
This alone is enough reason to go tell the Gov't to take there vaccine and shove it.
Uhhh. Negative ghostrider. USPS doesn't fall under the executive branch mandate but does fall under the large corporation mandate. This has been known since about ten minutes after the same reporter mistakenly reported that they don't.
So branches of government have "natural immunity" from a virus. I won't even respond to the illegals.
When you pull your head out of your ass, does it make that POP sound we made as kids with our finger and our mouth?
No, what I am saying is that the President can mandate for everybody in the executive branch just about any code of conduct, including vaccines. This is widely accepted.
Maybe he can, through OSHA, mandate that businesses must mandate vaccines. This is hotly debated.
What he definitely cannot do is mandate that members of congress or the judiciary get vaccines, because of the separation of powers. Since congress is not a 100 person or more corporation, they are not covered by that mandate either.
Well, there are things called facts. You might not like them, you might not understand them, but unfortunately for you they exist. And given that Biden is stretching his powers by mandating vaccines for 100+ person companies, obviously none of those people fall in the mandate. Neither does your corner store. But your corner store isn't exempt from the 100+ person mandate. They are subject to it, as soon as they grow to 100 people. Likewise with any of these other groups.
This is just reality. I'm not saying it is good or it is bad, actually I think it is bad, but it is what it is.
“The White House “strongly encourage[s USPS employees] to comply with” the new vaccine requirements, an official reportedly said.”
Will be governed by osha rule. There is no osha rule.
Will be governed by osha rule. There is no osha rule.
So why did potato head pick 100? Why not mandate it for everyone regardless. And using OSHA as his muscle shows he doesn't have the balls. And it's not a vaccine, it's an experiment.
So then none of the other groups on the list would ever be considered to be exempt because all of this only applies to the executive branch. But the USPS carriers are not considered executive branch employees, by 39 USC 201, so they aren't exempt, they just aren't covered any more than you are. You might note that this is the same reason Biden hasn't been able to fire DeJoy, the Trump appointed postmaster general, even though he has been able to fire everybody else. Because the USPS is not an executive agency, it's an independent corporation under the executive.
OR--
Pfizer, Moderna, USPS etc are all subject to the OSHA rule when published, without exemption.
Either way, there is no exemption in play.
I don't know, I don't care, and it is a vaccine. I am just trying to explain the realities of this, rather than pretend they are something other than what they are. I think it is a shitty rule, or proposed rule, but at least I have taken the fucking time to understand it.
Yeah lol?
A vaccine that you can still catch the virus and spread it more than a pure blood
C'mon man.
A big issue is that people don't follow outbreaks against vaccinated diseases on a regular basis, so they make the assumption that breakthrough cases don't exist. When there are measles outbreaks in the US, they tend to be about 50%-50% vaccinated and unvaccinated, though they are spawned in unvaccinated clusters. But because vaccination rates are so high, they are very controllable. But half or so of the kids getting the measles are fully vaccinated. Likewise, about 70% of kids who get chicken pox are fully vaccinated. I get that people don't understand this, and believe that these things are foolproof, but they really aren't, and especially when you are talking about a disease that is widespread and not "killed" like measles or smallpox. But that doesn't mean that none of these are vaccines.
And vaccinated people not only don't spread it more, but shed it more quickly so are contagious less long. The data you are talking about showed that breakthroughs with Delta had similar viral loads between vaccinated and unvaccinated, but the shorter duration of the vaccinated made them less overall contagious. On the other hand, since symptoms are much lower than for unvaccinated, they might be out in public more not knowing they are infected.
You propaganda statist cock gobblers aee part of the oroblem
it's funny these companies would take a suggestion cause It's not a law no matter how much joe wants it to be a suggestion and fire there employees I wish they would wake up there is no mustard behind the mandate but companies can fire whom they want at any time so Id stop buying there products to hell with hornady , berger makes better bullets if you can get them anyway .people could always sue for hard ship maybe win then they can build there own ammo company and put hornady out of business I wish them the best of luck it's not a horrible time to be looking for work since so many other companies can't get people to even show up to work . I also wish for 100 billion dollars it's only a wish like a mandate you have to pay me lol .
I think the data and the facts that you took the time to understand are also part of the problem. Again, and now is just me, but I do not believe a single thing from this sham of an administration. Certainly, not from an old man with dementia pretending to be president simply doing what the true rulers tell him to do. He doesn't give give a fuck. He knows he'll be long dead from age or disease to see the damage he helped wrought. There are so many evil heads to this hydra that it is impossible to ascertain which are real and which are narrative. But like deersniper pointed out, just blindly trusting data and numbers provided by those that wish to rule the earth only helps their cause. I know....if not trust the numbers, then what else is there? Its called instinct. and none of this seems right.
Here is an example of what i can totally see happening. good ole Joe tells the USPS you need to take the vaccine or else...then once the cameras are off ...wink...wink.. The USPS is a rather large union of folks i would think he wouldn't want to piss off.
this is not to say that airlines, automakers, etc are small but i think the usps is one of the largest employers in the country. Not too mention one of the largest employers of shitty employees and people that would otherwise have no job if not for the post office. LOl, but that is a conversation for another time.
I think we should shut the USPS completely. Nobody is listening, but I agree with you that it sucks. I am also just saying that, unlike the FDA or something, the USPS is not forced to listen to the President on this stuff. As I mentioned, if he had control over the USPS, he would have fired DeJoy, like he did every other Trump appointee. I think that is pretty good proof of his lack of authority to do it.
As far as the facts, I kind of agree with you that there is a lot of bullshit, and a lot of lies. I am not willing to go on instinct, though, because I don't think it is any better. The facts about measles and chicken pox, though, are real and predate any of this covid nonsense by decades. Vaccines have breakthrough infections, even the best ones. It's just that nobody sits around wondering about them because they aren't really an issue. But the less of the disease there is in the world, the less you see those breakthroughs.
Biden might be an asshole (he is) but he also currently has the powers granted to the President, so I am just trying to explain them the best I can.
Love it.
Have you noticed how many asses are in the seats at an NFL game? Playing the Black national anthem and kneeler POS' on the sidelines? Un fucking believable what some will ignore.
It's like the story of the Baptist, Methodist and the Catholic running into each other at the liquor store.
Nope, just saw some of the highlights on the local news.
I have better things to do with my time. Cut the cable, do something productive.
The arena is packed. The people are cheering for the gladiator and the lions are being fed while the country is destroyed.
I have better things to do with my time. Cut the cable, do something productive.
The most ironic thing, or not, is that nothing in modern America looks more like a slave auction than the scouting combine. It is basically just a bunch of white people measuring black people to see if they will make good workers.
Niki Minaj, Kyrie Irving and a hamburger place are the only ones committed to fighting for freedom.......weird.
Oh God this fuckstain again....
Weird.
My wifes longest known friend is dating a USPS man.
The constant fight between the two is that she is Covid scared and wants him to get vaccinated.
He is not getting vaccinated and apparently his job is not asking him to get vaccinated. He delivers the mail.
Do you understand the difference between the USPS not being part of the executive branch mandate because of their legal structure, and USPS being part of the proposed OSHA mandate because they are a corporation above 100 people? My guess is you don't, because you basically can't read, can't think and can't understand shit. I don't give a shit what some dude who cuckolds you with your wife says.
And Mormon.
Oh God this fuckstain again........
"The United States Postal Service is an independent agency of the executive branch of the United States federal government responsible for providing postal service in the United States, including its insular areas and associated states"
I would say the potato has more legitimacy of ordering a mandate on the USPS than he would on some sub-contractor building sub assemblies for the main contractor.
You argue all you want. You make as much sense as Jen Psaki with less appeal.
You might say that, since you are a moron and don't know anything, I will take it for what it is worth, since there have been volumes written on the subject. But I will leave you with this question... if Biden has particular dominion over the USPS, why can't he fire Louis de Joy, who is literally the one Trump appointee that he hasn't fired? It is because the USPS is particularly structured to be out of reach of the executive, as opposed to all other agencies. The operative word in your sentence being independent. Now go back and play with the special children. I'm done with you.
Further info for Fuckstain......
Independent Executive agencies......check how many of these are under potato's mandate......rumor has it peeps at Los Alamos are walking. Why is the USPS the only one of these singled out?
www.usa.gov
Independent Executive agencies......check how many of these are under potato's mandate......rumor has it peeps at Los Alamos are walking. Why is the USPS the only one of these singled out?
Branches of the U.S. government | USAGov
Learn about the 3 branches of government: executive, legislative, and judicial. Understand how each branch of U.S. government provides checks and balances.
www.usa.gov - These agencies are not represented in the cabinet and are not part of the Executive Office of the president. They deal with government operations, the economy, and regulatory oversight.
- Administrative Conference of the United States
- African Development Foundation
- Central Intelligence Agency
- Commission on Civil Rights
- Commission on Presidential Scholars
- Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe (Helsinki Commission)
- Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
- Consumer Product Safety Commission
- Defense Nuclear Facilities Safety Board
- Denali Commission
- Environmental Protection Agency
- Equal Employment Opportunity Commission
- Export-Import Bank of the United States
- Farm Credit Administration
- Federal Communications Commission
- Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation
- Federal Election Commission
- Federal Housing Finance Agency
- Federal Labor Relations Authority
- Federal Maritime Commission
- Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service
- Federal Mine Safety and Health Review Commission
- Federal Reserve System
- Federal Retirement Thrift Investment Board
- Federal Trade Commission
- General Services Administration
- Indoor Air Quality
- Institute of Museum and Library Services
- Inter-American Foundation
- Merit Systems Protection Board
- Millennium Challenge Corporation
- National Aeronautics and Space Administration
- National Archives and Records Administration
- National Capital Planning Commission
- National Credit Union Administration
- National Endowment for the Arts
- National Endowment for the Humanities
- National Labor Relations Board
- National Mediation Board
- National Railroad Passenger Corporation
- National Science Foundation
- National Transportation Safety Board
- Occupational Safety and Health Review Commission
- Office of Government Ethics
- Office of Personnel Management
- Office of Special Counsel
- Office of the Director of National Intelligence
- Peace Corps
- Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation
- Postal Regulatory Commission
- Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board
- Railroad Retirement Board
- Securities and Exchange Commission
- Selective Service System
- Small Business Administration
- Social Security Administration
- Surface Transportation Board
- Tennessee Valley Authority
- U.S. Agency for Global Media
- U.S. Agency for International Development
- U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission
- U.S. International Development Finance Corporation
- U.S. International Trade Commission
- U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission
- U.S. Postal Service
- U.S. Trade and Development Agency
More education for fuckstain.....
These are even lower down the rung "Quasi Official agencies". Yet my wife who works for the Smithsonian, when not being banged by her friends mailman, is under mandate from potato's order and right there in the definition it says they are not part of the executive branch! The scientists in her office are walking....anyone know how to fly satellites.....they could be looking for a pilot soon........
Although they're not officially part of the executive branch, these agencies are required by federal statute to release certain information about their programs and activities in the Federal Register, the daily journal of government activities.
Fuckstain you make no sense.........
These are even lower down the rung "Quasi Official agencies". Yet my wife who works for the Smithsonian, when not being banged by her friends mailman, is under mandate from potato's order and right there in the definition it says they are not part of the executive branch! The scientists in her office are walking....anyone know how to fly satellites.....they could be looking for a pilot soon........
Although they're not officially part of the executive branch, these agencies are required by federal statute to release certain information about their programs and activities in the Federal Register, the daily journal of government activities.
- Center for Parent Information and Resources
- Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac)
- Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae)
- Institute of Peace
- John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts
- Legal Services Corporation
- National Constitution Center
- National Gallery of Art
- Smithsonian Institution
- State Justice Institute
- Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars
Fuckstain you make no sense.........
Trying to stop anybody from going Postal, but here is an article on the Vid from the Postal Times...
www.postaltimes.com
Update on required COVID vaccines for postal workers
Postal Service workers are subject to a rule to be developed by the Labor Department mandating coronavirus vaccinations for workers and weekly testing for non-vaccinated employees at companies…
www.postaltimes.com 
