The cumulative error so far has been pretty outrageous and I've only been watching the trial for two hours.
We really don't want that to happen though, it'd be much sweeter to come from the jury than the judge.
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We really don't want that to happen though, it'd be much sweeter to come from the jury than the judge.
If his lawyer's motion that he's arguing right now is granted, he'll walk free as a bird.
some think the scumbags want a mistrial now, since they are fucked.
Kyles ex lawyer allowing him to do those interviews is going to come back to haunt Kyle.
I said at that time, it was BAD, really bad.
I said at that time, it was BAD, really bad.
That would be the worst possible outcome, but given their behavior, they may have baited the defense into seeking the mistrial for their benefit. I definitely would not put that out of the realm of possibility at all.
I didn't see the defendant's direct examination but this cross makes me wonder if they went too far with his direct. He should have been called ONLY for the purpose of establishing the subjective element of his self defense claim and his lawyer should have sat down (and objected to anything as going beyond that scope).
He's submitted himself now to full cross examination, and when that happens, none of the other witnesses or evidence will matter now, the jury will only really care about how Rittenhouse presents, which looked good to me, but it's not up to me--it's absolutely up to them.
He's submitted himself now to full cross examination, and when that happens, none of the other witnesses or evidence will matter now, the jury will only really care about how Rittenhouse presents, which looked good to me, but it's not up to me--it's absolutely up to them.
I wouldn't have let him take the stand.
If this has been posted Ill remove it but it looks like the Judge is determined to have a fair trial. Hope the jury is as solid.
43 minutes ago — The judge in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse called a prosecutor on Wednesday while cross-examining the teenager about a "serious breach of ...
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https://www.ampgoo.com › judge-shouts-at-kyle-rittenh...43 minutes ago — The judge in the murder trial of Kyle Rittenhouse called a prosecutor on Wednesday while cross-examining the teenager about a "serious breach of ...
What if they were appointed by Donald Trump? Would you believe that all crimes committed by the state are absolved if they are done by Republicans in an effort to stop socialists and communists from destroying America?
Well, if anything, they're a little late.....We knew this would happen.liberal media now attacking the judge
Immunity corrupts,
Absolute Immunity corrupts, absolutely.
Absolute Immunity corrupts, absolutely.
Prosecution said pedo never touched his body physically and Kyle agreed 
. If he had a sling on, that firearm is an extension of his body no different than your shirt or underwear.
. If he had a sling on, that firearm is an extension of his body no different than your shirt or underwear.Have not been following this all that closely but I have to say I think that Judge going off on the prosecutor is certainly helpful to Kyle.
Litigation prof and all the guests always said jurys look to the judge for cues even when they don't understand the technicalities. Hence the often cited rule number 1 of the court room, Don't piss off the judge. When its this obvious the the Judge does not like the prosecutor it might be enough to hold a Juror back from agreeing with his side.
Litigation prof and all the guests always said jurys look to the judge for cues even when they don't understand the technicalities. Hence the often cited rule number 1 of the court room, Don't piss off the judge. When its this obvious the the Judge does not like the prosecutor it might be enough to hold a Juror back from agreeing with his side.
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Jury was sent out before he admonished the prosecutor.
Ahh missed that bit, makes sense though if he was planning on going off like that.
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That's an interesting point. I have definitely been in front of some judges who clearly did not like the other attorney. I never really thought the jury would care though--often judges get irritated based on things attorneys do that have little to do with the case before them.
Looks to me that the judge thinks/believes Kyle is getting shafted by the government.
Looks like small town good ol boys running roughshod on this kid for doing what they failed to do. Kyle made them look bad and they are hell bent on making him pay for it.
Looks like small town good ol boys running roughshod on this kid for doing what they failed to do. Kyle made them look bad and they are hell bent on making him pay for it.
The fact of the matter is, if the elected officials had kept this situation under control none of this would have ever come up.
My profs point as he explained it was that objections and technical legal rulings often go over the jurys heads but they will still look at the judge and lawyers reactions and come to a conclusion. Even if as you said it has nothing to do with the case. He also said to thank the judge after having an objection overruled so to appear you were happy with the outcome for the same reason. I can say having personally done so that both the other lawyer and judge are usually thrown off the first time you do it.
Ultimately his opinion was that jurys latch onto weird stuff sometimes and if they view one of the lawyers as a bully/idiot/incompetent based on how the judge treats them or they conduct themselves it can bias (even if its subconsciously) a jury against them which is never what you want. In my limited experience I don't feel its ever won/lost a case but then again you never know.
This prosecutor is a prime example why people hate prosecutors.
Total douche bag. Hard to watch. But the youngster is holding his own.
Arguing whether or not to admit a digitally zoomed image is admissable. Judge wants prosecution to prove that the digitally zoomed image is not fundamentally altered. Surprised something like this hasn't come up before.
The young man is more than holding his own.
His answers are thought out and honest.
I think the judge and I have the same cell phones.....
That's also an interesting point. I guess I'm modest enough to recognize that a judge always could rule against me and I try to pick my battles in areas where I really believe I ought to win, even if I know it could go either way. Being truthful enough to recognize that the ruling could go away with you and recognizing the court's authority to rule goes a long way in gaining the respect of the judge.
The prosecutor didn't object earlier in the trial. The defense was again, smarter than the prosecutor. I doubt he can get something to prove it as admissible within the confines of this trial. Also, isn't he in a catch 22? The defense could then ask to find their own witness to prove their argument? Then what does the judge do if both teams have opposing witnesses on this matter?
I have never seen a prosecutor so "brazen" with the judge. He's just asking for trouble.
You're a fucking moron and a liar. He, like all city prosecutors, is a fucking politician, and a radical leftist one who was being massively pressured to prosecute a clear case of self defense by the Democrat machine that runs Kenosha. Like Detroit, it was a blue collar manufacturing hub full of good, loyal, FDR, union Democrats. No longer.
You've just lost all credibility here. You don't live in our shared reality.
Kyle is about to breakdown again. Prosecutor arguing that Rittenhouse was the original agressor because he pointed his rifle at the pedo after the pedo was already in pursuit and after pedo threw something at him. Pure clown world.
The jurors must be thinking this prosecutor is an idiot. He's being beaten by an 18 year old kid.
"Why is the antifag with a pistol who ran is part of a mob that chased you down and assaulted you a threat to you, but you with an AR-15 are not a threat to him?". Damn near direct quote. WTF.
The person prosecuting this case does not work as a "city prosecutor." I suggest you learn to load your brain before you shoot off at the mouth. Maybe if you're going to accuse someone of being a liar, you should consider getting your facts straight instead of going straight for the personal insults. I'm not a citizen of Wisconsin and never have been; I have no axe to grind with their government or influence on who the elected DA is there. All I know is the guy on the screen isn't the elected; he's a civil servant and bureaucrat.
Some days it's practicing law, but most of the days, it's just practicing facts. He doesn't have the facts in his favor and hasn't for the entirety of the trial. That kid is facing life in prison and still has more composure than the prosecutor when he interacts with the judge (who clearly can't stand him).
Prosecutor made a huge deal about the fact that Kyle is not a certified medical anything, but now trashing him because he didn't render aid to the people he shot.
This kid is cool under pressure. This prosecutor is throwing a few strikes but he's walked in a few runs already. But I doubt the jurors have picked up most of them.
Prosecutor equates going around and putting out fires and giving people bandaids to chasing down an active shooter.
No, he was hired. He is being paid by the DA for his work here.
I am curious....was the prosecutor asking the questions sworn in? Because it sure seemed like he provided a bunch of testimony.
