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Yup.
The destruction of modern Western beliefs is based almost entirely on one tool. Emotion.
Communism? Emotion. Unions? Emotion. Condoning Crime and Sexual Perversion? Emotion.
Influencing a Jury to convict a young man who is EXCEEDINGLY far from having committed murder? Emotion.
Doesn't say FEMALE angels nipples.
I got a feeling that jury are the type of people who side with the people who burned their town up. If they feel Kyle pointed his rifle at anyone they must want to convict. It seemed pretty clear cut that Kyle was attacked in the three altercations before firing his weapon if you believe in self defense.
Woo-hoo.
Now they're trying to blame detective Howard for fucking the video.
Hmmm....the detective that testified that Rosenberg was ambushing kyle....
Interdasting.
Now they're trying to blame detective Howard for fucking the video.
Hmmm....the detective that testified that Rosenberg was ambushing kyle....
Interdasting.
Defense asking for a regular mistrial (over bad video evidence) not with prejudice.
fucking stupid move by lawyers who want to double their bill. A standard mistrial is a TERRIBLE idea.
WOW.....I'd be throwing shit around the courtroom.....EITHER party is required to turn over evidence. NOW we can argue HOW good the evidence is or is not????
Someone should send this to that fucking jury...
The Basic Laws Of Human Stupidity" by Carlo M. Cipolia and he pretty well nails it.
1. Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
2. The probability that a certain person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
The Basic Laws Of Human Stupidity" by Carlo M. Cipolia and he pretty well nails it.
1. Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
2. The probability that a certain person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
Well looks like everyone involved is now fucking up, by the numbers.
My nightmare is to be tried in a capital murder case by a jury of people that have never been involved in a fist fight or any violent attack.
why would they not ask for mistrial with prejudice????
Someone should send this to that fucking jury...
The Basic Laws Of Human Stupidity" by Carlo M. Cipolia and he pretty well nails it.
1. Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
2. The probability that a certain person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
I hope they don't turn out to be STUPID but I am generally disappointed
The Basic Laws Of Human Stupidity" by Carlo M. Cipolia and he pretty well nails it.
1. Always and inevitably everyone underestimates the number of stupid individuals in circulation.
2. The probability that a certain person is stupid is independent of any other characteristic of that person.
3. A stupid person is a person who causes losses to another person or to a group of persons while himself deriving no gain and even possibly incurring losses.
4. Non-stupid people always underestimate the damaging power of stupid individuals. In particular non-stupid people constantly forget that at all times and places and under any circumstances to deal and/or associate with stupid people always turns out to be a costly mistake.
5. A stupid person is the most dangerous type of person.
I hope they don't turn out to be STUPID but I am generally disappointed
They did, that's what they were discussing in court. They have gone through the first 4 reasons the defense is asking for a mistrial with prejudice. Seems like this will go on as long as the jury is in deliberations. The defense really wanted to know if today's activity addressed point #5 and the judge said it didn't. So I'm guessing that there's gotta be at least 1 point where the judge COULD act in the defense's behalf.
Does the idea of Chain of Custody sound too crazy about this video??
Yeah....I'm pretty sure now that I look again, at no point have they insinuated they sought a mistrial without prejudice.
See what happens when you don't pay attention?
Got me.
Hope the jury don't fall for a simple misunderstanding.
See what happens when you don't pay attention?
Got me.
Hope the jury don't fall for a simple misunderstanding.
thx for the clarification
Defense has stated before WITH prejudice.
The WITH prejudice request is still on the judges desk. He has not ruled on it AFAIK. That means its the earliest unruled motion and would come into play.
Perhaps the Judge himself made the prior statements during certain points.
Could it be the Judge's strategy to see if the Jury comes back with a guilty verdict on any or all of the charges then issue a ruling of a mistrial with prejudice?
If that's the case, then it confirms my opinion that Judges are some of the dumbest life forms on the face of the earth.
He should have ruled on the defense motion BEFORE deliberations.
I'm not a lawyer but I play one on the internet.
Is this still live somewhere?. My cable is playing the Arbery's trial.
Bald defense atty "without prejudice" so retrial. I just replayed it.
I think the recent Defense motion was filed before the jury went out. With everything that had happened during the trial I see the Judge letting the State have as much rope as they want/needed. The Defense never made any official motions to any of those prior situations. This situation now with the video has been the final straw for the Defense. Which COULD be as bad as waiting to the end, part of a "backup plan" for a retrial IF there was a conviction, or just their best chance NOW to get the trial thrown out.
@Ric O'shay : I think they are trying to get computer equipment to the jury. They have stepped away from the courtroom.
Watching the last half hour or so I am coming to the conclusion that this is his strategy. I admittingly have not watched the whole thing but the way he kept hesitating in saying how far out of line the Prosecution was on multiple occasions and ending with we will see what the jury does makes me think this is exactly what he's doing.
I believe this makes him smart not dumb, the legal system does not like when judges take things out of the hands of the jury and doing so is a quick way to get overturned on appeal which judges hate. If the jury comes back not guilty on all charges then it doesn't matter what prosecution did. (I think it should lead to disciplinary action, but it doesn't matter for Kyle) If the jury comes back guilty then he has reserved the right to pull the nuclear option and take his chances on appeal.
I laugh cause thats how easy it is to be confused.
Their motion for mistrial WITH prejudice, has not changed at any time.
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lawandcrime.com Judge just came back into the court.
He probably wants a hung jury followed by a Mistrial with Prejudice.
Also, one of the Prosecutors has software installed on his computer that proves he lied to the judge.
IF I were the judge I'd be handing out jail-time contempt slips like candy right now.
I'd start by saying "It is not permissible for verbal threats from outside the courtroom to be heard through the walls...arrest anyone that makes a loud verbal threat."
I'd start by saying "It is not permissible for verbal threats from outside the courtroom to be heard through the walls...arrest anyone that makes a loud verbal threat."
Jury coming back in to watch whatever videos they were asking about seeing again.
So...they're going to show the hi-res video to the jury?
It dont work that way as far as I know.
I am 99.9% sure once the judge gets the jury verdict he has to read it in court. Up until that moment there are other options, but once he gets the paper in his hand thats the way it goes.
So now they are sitting in an empty courtroom with a TV to play video as much as they like.
I'm betting somebody's gonna show up from the jury pool pictured sitting in the judge's chair
Nope
They've got another hour 45 today probably. I'll be shocked if its done today.
They are allowing the jury access to the evidence...videos...they "left in" the disputed hi-res version....I didn't hear a CLEAR request of the jury for that specific video.
