Any word on the price point for the chassis? And availability on the 700 model since you only mentioned the Tikka version?
Yes. That's why I canceled my order and will wait till it's all sorted out or buy a used one. It amazes me the AI's out there with less than a thousand rounds on them.So, do I have this correct? I ordered an AT-X last year, paid in full in advance (EO), still haven’t received the rifle, ordered and paid for a hinge still on backorder (EO). And now you are introducing a new updated 3rd generation AT-X before fulfilling your current orders. Wow, I thought only Sig did this kind of stuff. Oh well, I will still be excited to get the rifle. I just feel a little duped.
Seriously considering just flipping my FDE when it arrives.Yes. That's why I canceled my order and will wait till it's all sorted out or buy a used one. It amazes me the AI's out there with less than a thousand rounds on them.
No you don't have it correct, they are making minor changes between each run.So, do I have this correct? I ordered an AT-X last year, paid in full in advance (EO), still haven’t received the rifle, ordered and paid for a hinge still on backorder (EO). And now you are introducing a new updated 3rd generation AT-X before fulfilling your current orders. Wow, I thought only Sig did this kind of stuff. Oh well, I will still be excited to get the rifle. I just feel a little duped.
YesWill the Tikka chassis be available in the UK similar time frame as the US?
Thank you and you are correct.No you don't have it correct, they are making minor changes between each run.
I'd have thought people would be happy they were making minor changes to the design as they become apparent.
I guess continuous improvement isn't a good thing....
Seriously considering just flipping my FDE when it arrives.
The more you think about the roll out and the way they are already talking about other gens and the better options for people buying the just the chassis the worst the taste in my mouth gets.
It just comes across as a “take it or leave it” mentality towards the consumer.
Plus the accoutrements that should of been as standard they are now displaying at SHOT for an additional cost with nowhere in North America to obtain them from.
But if you buy a Gen 3 they will be built in.
Just doesn’t sit well with me.
is an axsr rear end still in the cards?The only difference between Gen 3 and Gen 2 is the rear with single thumbscrews for cheek piece and LOP adjustment. This was a feature we identified and feedback from the market, primarily Sniper’s Hide members, reinforced our change. We had to design, develop, test and introduce into production before we could offer it.
The 2022 AT-X retail price is $5,250 which includes the new rear end and inflation, which is significant.
An AXSR rear and hinge would have pushed that price point way up and that is why we do not offer them as standard.
We are offering a great rifle at a competitive price and continually improving it.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
As an aftermarket accessory, yes. We just need to sort out pricing and will probably offer it to our distributors at the beginning of Q2, April.is an axsr rear end still in the cards?
Only 3So @tomirwin next batch of rifles shipping from AINA are going to be this Gen2 now? Are you still working with any Gen1's shipping in 2022?
Especially since the early adopters are the ones funding the new changesYea... being an early adopter and missing some of the small polish items socks a little
But
What's the price for the "3rd gen" going to end up being in comparison....
You do not understand how much design, development, test and setting up for production costs. Profits from production do not come with first years of production. We are still investing in the AT-X and AICS versions.Especially since the early adopters are the ones funding the new changes
Tom,You do not understand how much design, development, test and setting up for production costs. Profits from production do not come with first years of production. We are still investing in the AT-X and AICS versions.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
I’m not here to debate you or discredit you. I absolutely understand what goes on in the business environment. I’m not talking about profits. I’m talking about the exchange of goods and money between you and the customer which in-turn motivate your company to use the revenue received to invest back into the continuous improvement of the product.You do not understand how much design, development, test and setting up for production costs. Profits from production do not come with first years of production. We are still investing in the AT-X and AICS versions.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
@tomirwin First of all thanks for putting up with our turd chucking (of which I did participate). It definitely was worth the wait.The
The only difference between Gen 3 and Gen 2 is the rear with single thumbscrews for cheek piece and LOP adjustment. This was a feature we identified and feedback from the market, primarily Sniper’s Hide members, reinforced our change. We had to design, develop, test and introduce into production before we could offer it.
The 2022 AT-X retail price is $5,250 which includes the new rear end and inflation, which is significant.
An AXSR rear and hinge would have pushed that price point way up and that is why we do not offer them as standard.
We are offering a great rifle at a competitive price and continually improving it.
Tom Irwin
Accuracy International
I did the same thing. I am keeping my AX. Didn't need an AT-X but wanted one anyway. I can wait. First world problems.Yes. That's why I canceled my order and will wait till it's all sorted out or buy a used one. It amazes me the AI's out there with less than a thousand rounds on them.
Mile High has had blues in stock since January 3rdI was in the same boat. I actually emailed Milehighshooting to order one of the blue models that was told was in stock. Got a email returned saying that they didn't have any and where taking orders at this point. So I was pretty disappointed when I seen that Milehighshooting.com changed the status to instock a couple days later. I had already picked up a new ARC Rifle at that point though.
Again I can't complain, but it left a sour taste and made me decide to wait until all this gets sorted out.
Until then I'll have to make do with my AX and AXSR.
I received an estimate for everything that MHSA had in stock on Jan 3, which included a Blue ATX. Maybe they allocated it to that estimate? Anyway, I purchased an in stock blue from them on January 14th and they still show in stock on the site.
I ordered an FDE from EO in October and was told I’d be lucky to see it by March. One thing I have found with this process is there is absolutely zero consistency in information given between AI here and EO. I’ve resigned myself to the fact it will come when it comes, but that’s just my observation.So @tomirwin I ordered an FDE ATX from EO on 12DEC21 and was told it would be shipped JAN/FEB. What GEN am I going to get?
Buy a blue today and cerakote it. Same price as waiting with the rate increase to $5250. Bonus you get it within the next week.I ordered an FDE from EO in October and was told I’d be lucky to see it by March. One thing I have found with this process is there is absolutely zero consistency in information given between AI here and EO. I’ve resigned myself to the fact it will come when it comes, but that’s just my observation.
I got an LE price when I ordered and honestly have no desire to Cerakote a new rifle. I’ll take the old price and just wait. I’m not bitching about not having it. Just noticed the inconsistencies and commented on them. It will get here eventually.Buy a blue today and cerakote it. Same price as waiting with the rate increase to $5250. Bonus you get it within the next week.
This is the crux of the problem. There is a lack of transparency between AI, Mile High, EO, and the paying customer. There doesn’t appear to be any bashing of the product or the mentioned businesses. However, it has been very difficult to get a consistent and straight forward story on this product.I ordered an FDE from EO in October and was told I’d be lucky to see it by March. One thing I have found with this process is there is absolutely zero consistency in information given between AI here and EO. I’ve resigned myself to the fact it will come when it comes, but that’s just my observation.
They got us by the balls. They know we want it and they know we’ll still pay for it. That’s why we get to make fun of them on the internet because it’s all we can do.This is the crux of the problem. There is a lack of transparency between AI, Mile High, EO, and the paying customer. There doesn’t appear to be any bashing of the product or the mentioned businesses. However, it has been very difficult to get a consistent and straight forward story on this product.
Man, I already ordered it.I’m officially seconding the notion of a free hinge upgrade for us AI fanboys who blindly order the latest AI offerings, sight unseen, with no thought of cost or fear of regret.
Do the right thing, and give the poor saps who bought Gen 1 a free hinge adapter
Yeah, I agree. This is my second AI. Waited 10 months for it to arrive. Just don’t want to wait this whole time just to get an old model. I have no problems paying the extra.. I mean shit, what a couple hundred more on a 5k rifle?I ordered an FDE from EO in October and was told I’d be lucky to see it by March. One thing I have found with this process is there is absolutely zero consistency in information given between AI here and EO. I’ve resigned myself to the fact it will come when it comes, but that’s just my observation.
This is the crux of the problem. There is a lack of transparency between AI, Mile High, EO, and the paying customer. There doesn’t appear to be any bashing of the product or the mentioned businesses. However, it has been very difficult to get a consistent and straight forward story on this product.
In Tom's defense--what he has said is what actually happened. I was one of those grumbling based on people's rumors here. Tom said we will deliver all 1st round prod by end of 2021. I was one of the last but it shipped late Nov 2021.
Everyone else is full of crap. Including me. He mentioned when second round orders would be delivered. I don't remember it off the top of my head, so rather than guess wrong hit the search button and find his post. (its in this thread)
As to in-stock: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA . If pre-orders and deposits are being taken, for future delivery, why in all that is holy would ANYONE have one in stock. There is a waiting list. Get on it.
Or don't, but don't expect to see one on the shelf. They are spoken for.
In Tom's defense--what he has said is what actually happened. I was one of those grumbling based on people's rumors here. Tom said we will deliver all 1st round prod by end of 2021. I was one of the last but it shipped late Nov 2021.
Everyone else is full of crap. Including me. He mentioned when second round orders would be delivered. I don't remember it off the top of my head, so rather than guess wrong hit the search button and find his post. (its in this thread)
As to in-stock: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA . If pre-orders and deposits are being taken, for future delivery, why in all that is holy would ANYONE have one in stock. There is a waiting list. Get on it.
Or don't, but don't expect to see one on the shelf. They are spoken for.I’m…..
Um……probably because there are some in stockIn Tom's defense--what he has said is what actually happened. I was one of those grumbling based on people's rumors here. Tom said we will deliver all 1st round prod by end of 2021. I was one of the last but it shipped late Nov 2021.
Everyone else is full of crap. Including me. He mentioned when second round orders would be delivered. I don't remember it off the top of my head, so rather than guess wrong hit the search button and find his post. (its in this thread)
As to in-stock: BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA . If pre-orders and deposits are being taken, for future delivery, why in all that is holy would ANYONE have one in stock. There is a waiting list. Get on it.
Or don't, but don't expect to see one on the shelf. They are spoken for.
I was told about $1250@tomirwin
Hey Tom, do you have an approximate price on the Chassis?
Seems cheap for AI chassisI was told about $1250