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It will likely be the Chinese who do a soft take over buying up everything as they have done all over the continent.

Interesting possibility.

South Africa is not without desirable natural resources, the usual vultures will definitely make a pass once the power vacuum is activated.
 


There was a reason hogg got to that position in the party. There's people backing him that are influential and have money. He has openly stated that he (meaning those that put him in the position) will primary those that are not following the radical plan. It was probably/maybe not a good idea to kick him to the curb. Time will tell if revenge is a dish well served cold.

I call BS on the James Carville trying to keep him in there. He fucking hates that man child.

James Carville is not stupid. He knows how hogg got to where he is. The "Keep your enemies close" maybe his angle. It's easier to control someone on the inside than someone who has no constraints.

Wasn't it revealed that Hogg's father is CIA or FBI after the school shooting? The school shooting that for some reason he missed school that day but rode his bicycle to afterwards. Then he was in front of the cameras and on the national news for weeks on end which got him a free ride to Harvard. He then milked a bunch of people in his startup pillow company.
 
A civil post. What an oddity.

I have not. I know a couple three people who have lived there as residents/citizens. Their personal accounts serve as more than enough for me to never to want to set foot there or even send a nickel.

I'm not sure what you think you may have seen in my other posts but I have made no claims or comments to say I believe South Africa will thrive or even survive if they oust all the white farmers or whoever and local non-whites take over.

But, unlike so many before you with panties twisted up in knots over things I actually didn't say, you posted a measured response about your actual experiences. Kudos.

History definitely paints a bleak picture for the future of South Africa should it stay on the current path. I just haven't ruled out the slim possibility that they might have an epiphany, hire consultants, maybe even white consultants, to run things for them once they confiscate it.

I was there in the 60's for desegregation, civil rights, all of it. I've seen everything you talk about without having the travel to Africa.
I have spent quite a bit of time in Africa, and I can assure you desegregation in the US cannot hold a candle to most of Africa when they decide it’s time to shake things up.
 
That’s actually a great question.

I know the question wasn’t for me, but I’ve spent a fair bit of time there…not as much as many, including a few folks here, notably @TheHorta and have a few observations.

I found the Rangers I worked with in Botswana, and threw many of ‘em out of the back of my airplane (Airborne training, LoL) to be quiet professionals in the extreme. I wouldn’t hesitate one second to go into a fight with them…they were tiny little dudes, but tough as nails. Their officers seemed to genuinely care about their troops too…something extremely rare in that region and throughout the Middle East as well for that matter.

Very mixed results in every country surrounding them, including South Africa.

I found that the farther away from the bigger cities we were, the better the various teams we worked with were at paying attention during training and learning; Arusha > Zanzibar > Dar es Salaam in Tanzania for example. Of course, Dar es Salaam is completely overrun by the Chinese by this point, so kinda moot.

East coast was kind of a mixed bag…the folks I worked with in Eritrea, Djibouti, and Ethiopia had some really fucked up idiots in charge when I was there, but the average person I met and worked with was remarkably, well, average. Somalia is just a total loss IMHO, just nuke it from orbit and start over.

I did find that the folks we worked with along the Gold Coast...and West Africa in general had (almost) the dumbest people I’ve ever worked with…and very little desire to improve at pretty much anything.

The Sudan is just a train wreck…and getting worse as Islamification continues its march into Africa. Pretty horrific shit going down and it’s gonna get worse.

I spent the most time in Egypt though, years actually…doing everything from teaching their field grade officers how to build training programs, to flying with their aircrews, doing DZ and airfield surveys, etc. Some truly good people, but almost robotic in general…anyone smart enough to lead there is almost certainly corrupt to the core, and/or leaves for greener pastures. And the general population is either too stupid to make a difference or just so beat down that anything, including death, is better than their life there.

I watched people get out of their Mercedes and take a shit on the street, then get back in and keep on driving. I watched them throwing dead animals and all their garbage into the Nile, and 100 yards downstream watched old ladies washing clothes and pulling drinking water from the river and canals. Unreal.

The only place I imagine more filthy and unsanitary is probably Bangladesh.

Edit: One time, my crew and a few others were called over to the Egyptian side of the airfield at Cairo West, and the Egyptian General in charge had us line up in front of what we thought was gonna be some kind of parade or something. And it was…sort of. They hauled out some conscripts who had tried to desert and stripped them naked and started beating them with canes…pretty sure a couple of them died. We were pretty stunned. Apparently it brought more shame to them by being beaten in front of ‘strangers’ or foreigners…or maybe that general was just sending a message.

Don’t know, but after a couple minutes of that I pulled us out of there and we just left in the middle of that scene…very fucked up. But I guess you gotta be harsh to control people in that society

My biggest takeaway from my time in Egypt is that their current “civilization” is absolute proof that aliens built the pyramids! LoL. There’s no way in hell those idiots built those grand old piles of rocks…

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So yeah, I’m down to save whatever, and whoever we can from that continent, as long as they want to work and contribute to society…not just become wards of the state. I welcome those Boer with open arms, and hope they can teach that same work ethic to the folks around them wherever they settle

I had similar experiences there. I have worked in 13 different countries (14 is you count the split Sudan). I added up the amount of time I have spent there and it is a little of four years in total.

The best and most professional "force" I worked with was the Kenya Wildlife Service. They were also by far the best equipped. They were good, well Africa good.

Parts of East Africa are complete shit holes..... Somalia and its people are by far the worst. West Africa is the dirties place I have even seen and I have bee to 42 different countries all over the world. West Africa Give the term Shit Hole all new meaning.

People just do not understand that things are vastly different there then here. One time in West Africa I remember seeing a dead person on the side of the side of the road for 6 days before anything was done about it. And this was in the capitol of the country.

One time I was driving to a remote village in the middle of NOWHERE East Africa and saw a World Food Program truck completely full and broke down on the side of the road. Nobody was anywhere around it. drove about 5 more miles to the village and all they could tell me is that they were starving because they did not get their food supply from the WFP. I told them that the truck looked like it was broken down about 5 miles back. They said that the y knew that..... the driver was had been there for 5 days already. Never mind the fact that they were on the coast where I know the fishing is great. They were just waiting until someone brought the food to them......... :rolleyes:

Between communists, dictatorships, and corrupt elections for "democracies" there is not a single government worth a shit over there. It would seem that the only form of government that show any kind of positive growth would be apartheid.
 
I see.

So you are saying someone simply having been to the continent of Africa makes them an expert on the socio-economics of the Republic of South Africa. And, like Burt implies, all niggers are the same.

No, what I am ASKING (it was two questions) is are you basing your comments on any real experience or first hand knowledge.

And FYI.... niggers are what they call black people here in the US, not over there.
 
I have spent quite a bit of time in Africa, and I can assure you desegregation in the US cannot hold a candle to most of Africa when they decide it’s time to shake things up.

Nothing in the post you're quoting or the one it was in response to was about violence.

If history is any indication, nobody knows how to "shake things up" when they decide to quite like the white man.
 
SA .gov has already signed an expropriation act so I'm not sure it matters if the farmers leave or not.

Land ownership (and everything else) has a long complicated history.

It is not entirely invalid to say white farmers are responsible for nearly 100% production because they own nearly 100% of the land.

Will current production levels be maintained if some of the land and property is redistributed is the $64,000 question.

Either way, leaving SA with money in your pocket is not straightforward either.

No. There is a 0% chance that anything close to current levels will be maintained. Only a complete fucking idiot would think that they would.
 
So you're saying Africa is the problem?
Not at all. Its a humanity problem, and it seems to me that most of these issues revolve around the desire to exploit others for gain, up to and including generational exploitation. You can be as educated to the hilt, but if you are being exploited with no real way out you are trapped. Having been around the world and seen it over and over, it seems to me that this is what most people seeking power want to do. And once that is done those being exploited can be emotionally and mentally manipulated via boogeymen and directed at the opposition. The west is not immune from this. The scary thing is, propaganda works on all humans. It especially works on the downtrodden and uneducated who see no way out of their undesirable circumstances.
 

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Sensationalism or a close call? we'll never know. " came close enough to the aircraft for the pilot to take sudden evasive action"
 
What you have in quotes is inaccurate. That's not what I said it's what you imagined I say. Sheesh it's like talking to a woman.

Again, I wasn't talking about violence in that post. Haven't been talking about violence in any of them. It was about the parallels in the capacity for success.

Y'all keep saying "Africa" when what you really mean is the blacks, the niggers, the spades. Say what you mean.

As far as the capacity for violence goes whitey is an apex predator.
You are full of it. Go to Africa like many of us have. Experience it yourself. You are attempting to impose your bullshit on reality. Spend a few weeks in the projects in the US for the light version.
 

“About three weeks in, I got a report that there was a lab—a BSL four lab, that is a high-security lab that deals with, like, really nasty bugs, you know, Ebola, whole bunch of other bugs—that there had been a safety incident…[that] involved a contractor cutting a hole in the bio containment suit of another worker with the intention of that, getting that worker sick with some nasty bug and potentially spreading it outside of the lab itself,” Bhattacharya said, confirming an incident first reported by Fox News earlier this month.
 
Not at all. Its a humanity problem, and it seems to me that most of these issues revolve around the desire to exploit others for gain, up to and including generational exploitation. You can be as educated to the hilt, but if you are being exploited with no real way out you are trapped. Having been around the world and seen it over and over, it seems to me that this is what most people seeking power want to do. And once that is done those being exploited can be emotionally and mentally manipulated via boogeymen and directed at the opposition. The west is not immune from this. The scary thing is, propaganda works on all humans. It especially works on the downtrodden and uneducated who see no way out of their undesirable circumstances.
you are arguing with a troll bot.
A bot that makes everything about 'racial undertones'.
 
You are full of it. Go to Africa like many of us have. Experience it yourself. You are attempting to impose your bullshit on reality. Spend a few weeks in the projects in the US for the light version.

Take a look at all the posts.

Please quote the ones that are factually inaccurate and details the inaccuracies.

I think you'll find there are no posts where I claimed South Africa will be successful or survive on their own without external intervention.

You're getting your panties in a wad and chimping out over words that were never posted.
 
you are arguing with a troll bot.
A bot that makes everything about 'racial undertones'.

The only thing I'm arguing about is what I didn't say.

Chimptards seem to think I believe South Africa can survive and succeed under black governance when no such words were ever posted by me.
 
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interesting. my paranoia tells me that the deep state is trying to side track the involvement of the ruling elites. Comey's daughter as lead prosecutor? no potential collusion there! a missing key witness? she's prob suicidal or was before going missing.
i will say that considering some of the women involved in the sex parties as victims is mostly bull shit. 19 yo "girls" know exactly what they are doing in my experience.
doubt this dog and pony show is going to implicate anybody in power. surprised diddy hasn't self terminated.
 
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Holy shit... This had been going around on Ukraine or Russian social circles before being picked up here. Not sure of the context, whether the guys in the background are Russians or another Ukrainian unit but the symbol in the foreground is Azov, AKA "Ukrainian SS"...

Brutal...

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LOL!!! Those Chicoms may think African men are shiftless and lazy, but it appears they have no problemo with Brown Sugar!
i've actually been wondering if or when Chinese men would start bringing in African women. they have a big young male excess mostly due to past 1 child policy. 1st born girls were often aborted or just killed. male heirs is a big deal not just in China. but if you only get 1 then...
of course we have no idea how much of the surplus was let in here by Obiden.
 
Qatar is a known financier of terrorist orgs and a known hiding place for their leaders-Hamas anyway. so,WTF? letting up on the new Syrian mass murders? WTF?
A lot of what is going on in the ME has to do with breaking up BRICS (or at least keeping it at bay), minimizing use of the SWIFT alternative and holding on to dollar hegemony as long as possible. When looked at it from that perspective, what he is doing with them and the tariffs begin to make more sense than it otherwise may.

It's an economic war. He is trying to bring everyone back in line while cutting China off at the knees.
 
A lot of what is going on in the ME has to do with breaking up BRICS (or at least keeping it at bay), minimizing use of the SWIFT alternative and holding on to dollar hegemony as long as possible. When looked at it from that perspective, what he is doing with them and the tariffs begin to make more sense than it otherwise may.

It's an economic war. He is trying to bring everyone back in line while cutting China off at the knees.
i begin to get that. way over my pay grade. some of his actions seem flighty and inconsistent. China is the enemy FS,not Russia. anything that pushes Russia closer to China is a big mistake-eg Ukraine. dealing with Chinese influence and corruption of our elites and pols is gonna be a big fight.
 
You keep saying Africa but it seems you mean blacks.

There are no successful "black nations" seems to be the undertone when you say "Africa".

Is "Africa" the problem? There are numerous examples of failed/declined black governments outside of Africa.
you mean in the Caribbean? all i can think of. yea,declined is a good term to use. few out and out failed. Haiti ,which needs fire bombing,comes to mind though. Jamaica and none of the rest even slightly well governed. they could be hugely successful. run by their internal elites. very corrupt. common people get little. 3rd world when you leave the touristy areas. not much overt violence against whites. the monkeys seem to know that no tourism = no income. drug biz a problem,of course. i am not aware of heavy Chinese involvement but don't know. Jamaica had a big Chinese pop last i knew. a lot of criminals included. actually Cuba had a big Chinese presence before Fidel. seems China has made a big move there lately. but a hugely successful black run gov? doesn't exist that i can think of.
 
Haiti ,which needs fire bombing,comes to mind though

As good an example as any. Forever on the proverbial bubble of success but never quite crossing the goalline. A couple US cities come to mind as well.

When it comes to business I view the Chinese the same as the ATF or revenuers ... they are not in it to help anybody but themselves. But that's really the case for a lot of them as lariat pointed out.

Corruption seems to know no racial or age boundaries in US politics.