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Israel has indirectly attacked Iran's nuclear program for a couple decades now - Stuxnet, targeted assassinations of nuclear scientists/engineers, etc.

All of those actions delayed, but collectively could not stop, progress toward an eventual fission weapon.

Not exactly many civil needs for uranium enriched to 80%+.
 
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Israel has indirectly attacked Iran's nuclear program for a couple decades now - Stuxnet, targeted assassinations of nuclear scientists/engineers, etc.

All of those actions delayed, but collectively could not stop, progress toward an eventual fission weapon.

Not exactly many civil needs for uranium enriched to 80%+.
hence, why Iran kept burying their program, deeper and deeper under the mountains.
I believe I read, it would take basically a small nuclear device to destroy the deep nuclear base in Iran.
 
hence, why Iran kept burying their program, deeper and deeper under the mountains.
I believe I read, it would take basically a small nuclear device to destroy the deep nuclear base in Iran.
GBU-57B MOP, which can only be carried by the B-2 Spirit, was designed for specifically that kind of mission.

I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but until and unless they "touch the boat" or directly attack US forces in the region, it ain't our fight IMO. If they do, well, our involvement should probably begin and end with a half-dozen MOPs on Fordow.
 
Don’t doubt the Zohan…

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Israel has got this.

Remember when Iraq and Iran fought through the 80’s, then the NATO coalition fucked them into the ground in less than 2 months.

This is basically the same thing except they aren’t begging Israel not to get involved to keep the muzzies happy.

Mossad/Israel is likely more aware than anyone posting on this forum what they need to do to destroy Irans nuke program. I think they got this. Our (USA)postering is to let them know not to fuck with our shit. And let anyone else who might wanna act back the fuck off.
 
and would blowing it up release contamination or bury it?
They have been reading Rads over there for a few days. The MSM is either that stupid or complaisant, chose one. Ham Radio operators have been "leaking" that info out the last 48hrs. So I'm told by the manager, of the local Holiday Inn Express.
 
Invasion of Iraq pretty much opened the playing field for Iran to become regional power it could not before because the dude with the stache next door.



Wondering why so many U.S. politicians want young Americans to die for Israel? Because the House is basically made up of three parties:

1. AIPAC (🇮🇱) – 324 members
2. Democrats (🇺🇸) – 84 members
3. Republicans (🇺🇸) – 27 members

That should clear things up.
 
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and would blowing it up release contamination or bury it?
Its probably not even real. Like the WMD"s. Im sure we are all being played again, not sure why people eat what the news says every time something happens only to find out a few months later it was all bs. The CIA and Mossad are the largest terror organizations in the world, obviously sponsored by congress and a few others that desperately want a war, any war, any place so they can all profit million. They keep everyone distracted by fears "nukes". Obviously we all seen through the fake russia boogyman and its not working so they bring this out. Fear = control. And our own govt (CIA) will target and kill Americans in order to get this conflict kicked off. Everyone knows our retaliatory capabilities and wont do anything, so if anything happens its orchestrated by our own. This is complex and harder to convince, so they need a bigger threat.....nukes. Bring out the WMD card again and play that one. The goal is to start a war, all those in congress and DC that are war mongers that want your friends and family to die for this should be lined up against a wall... They are the true and only threat. The whole "nuke" thing is a ploy, a joke. But people buy it because it targets their fears. Stop letting it.
 

You are looking at it through the wrong lens. Look at it through the money lens.... who made how much and how many millionaires in DC and their friends and family all heavily invested in the war machine got hyper rich.... It was quite the successful campaign from the looks of it. Thats why thousands of people died. They were just told a different story so they'd go along with it at the time.
 
You are looking at it through the wrong lens. Look at it through the money lens.... who made how much and how many millionaires in DC and their friends and family all heavily invested in the war machine got hyper rich.... It was quite the successful campaign from the looks of it. Thats why thousands of people died. They were just told a different story so they'd go along with it at the time.
even with the 7.6 BILLION investment, left for their Military apparatus (thanks Joe), they'll be driving Toyota HiLux's at the end of the day.
On the other hand, lots of GREAT 'how to' videos coming out of Afghanistan on rebuilding Cummins' Engines with basic tools.
 
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It doesn't make any sense to say Iran should be left alone because estimates of their nuclear progress were overly pessimistic in the past.

These people are 7th-century, daughter-murdering morons with a history of lying as a matter of policy and as a staple of their religion, and we can't be sure what they're doing because they can't be trusted. The smart thing in the absence of perfect intelligence is to assume they are close to a bomb. You don't want to wait around until they nuke someone and then say, "Tulsi Gabbard was pretty sure this wouldn't happen."

They brought this on themselves by picking on Israel (unnecessary), killing hundreds of Americans, refusing to both abandon nukes and open themselves to inspection, and by continually threatening to destroy Israel and the US.

Imagine a world in which Islamists decided to leave Israel alone and let the Jews have their tiny sliver of desert. We could have that world this evening. The only barrier is Islamism.

Incidentally, Israel's success against its enemies is probably largely due to the fact that Muslim countries have expelled or killed nearly all their Jews. Where do you think Israel gets spies that pass for Iranians? From Iran.
 
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I think the only way we will end up battling Iran is if they live up to their past standard of stupidity and poke the bear.

I do not believe we will get into a wider war with Iran because the rest of the Muslims hate Iran, just as they hate "Palestinians." A lot of the governments over there are thrilled to see Iran getting its face pushed in.
 
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It doesn't make any sense to say Iran should be left alone because estimates of their nuclear progress were overly pessimistic in the past.

These people are 7th-century, daughter-murdering morons with a history of lying as a matter of policy and as a staple of their religion, and we can't be sure what they're doing because they can't be trusted. The smart thing in the absence of perfect intelligence is to assume they are close to a bomb. You don't want to wait around until they nuke someone and then say, "Tulsi Gabbard was pretty sure this wouldn't happen."

They brought this on themselves by picking on Israel (unnecessary), killing hundreds of Americans, refusing to both abandon nukes and open themselves to inspection, and by continually threatening to destroy Israel and the US.

Imagine a world in which Islamists decided to leave Israel alone and let the Jews have their tiny sliver of desert. We could have that world this evening. The only barrier is Islamism.

Incidentally, Israel's success against its enemies is probably largely due to the fact that Muslim countries have expelled or killed nearly all their Jews. Where do you think Israel gets spies that pass for Iranians? From Iran.

You kind of forget Israel wants "living space" much like someone else.
They want "greater Israel" that is a lot of other countries right now

Don't forget also they essentially want to rule everyone including us.

Israel succeeds because America is their pay pig and their errand boy and pet dog.
without that, they would have to tread much more carefully.
Or perhaps they would have already nuked a bunch of folks and we wouldn't have this problem to begin with...
(That was their plan B if the USA didn't help them out in the early wars).
 
I dont think you can get accurate results with a society that is filled with propaganda and lies to further an unforeseen agenda. Im sure if they came out with the 100% truth it would be 99% opposed and 1% in favor of war, the 1% being those that own and are invested in all the factories supporting it. Our image of reality is purposely blurred to steer us into the way of thinking they want us to. How all people still cant see it is amazing.
 
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You kind of forget Israel wants "living space" much like someone else.
They want "greater Israel" that is a lot of other countries right now

Don't forget also they essentially want to rule everyone including us.

Israel succeeds because America is their pay pig and their errand boy and pet dog.
without that, they would have to tread much more carefully.
Or perhaps they would have already nuked a bunch of folks and we wouldn't have this problem to begin with...
(That was their plan B if the USA didn't help them out in the early wars).
I can't argue with antisemitic fantasies. Next we'll be discussing the blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
 
I can't argue with antisemitic fantasies. Next we'll be discussing the blood libel and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Yea its not like Israel has ever tried to lure the US into a WAR for its benefit............. Look its the Black/Jew Card. You cant criticize anything about them without being called a racist or anti-Semite. That's what happens when you are incapable of arguing the merits of your position.

 
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GBU-57B MOP, which can only be carried by the B-2 Spirit, was designed for specifically that kind of mission.

I don't want Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but until and unless they "touch the boat" or directly attack US forces in the region, it ain't our fight IMO. If they do, well, our involvement should probably begin and end with a half-dozen MOPs on Fordow.

If we’re using that metric Iran earned some attention all the way back in Iraq during the GWOT.

I’m totally OK with bombing them into extinction. Muslims, particularly of the Middle Eastern variety; when allowed to self govern, are barbarians little removed from animals and should be treated as such.

I have no interest in direct regime change, nation building, or even diplomacy.

We either stay out of it, which is fine with me too, or we go fuck them up so bad it gets written into their Quran and other ravings of the goat fucker Mohammed.

Either way I think we’re done talking, there is no constructive conversation to be had with them.
 
Yea its not like Israel has ever tried to lure the US into a WAR for its benefit............. Look its the Black/Jew Card. You cant criticize anything about them without being called a racist or anti-Semite. That's what happens when you are incapable of arguing the merits of your position.

So the Jews are trying to run the world, they've had 4,000 years to do it, they ended up with no country for 2000 years, then two little countries killed a third of them, then they got a scrap of desert with no oil, and big neighboring countries full of oil and inbred imbeciles dedicated to killing them.

I like the way you think.

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So the Jews are trying to run the world, they've had 4,000 years to do it, they ended up with no country for 2000 years, then two little countries killed a third of them, then they got a scrap of desert with no oil, and big neighboring countries full of oil and inbred imbeciles dedicated to killing them.

I like the way you think.

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When someone is a jerk to you maybe they are an asshole.
When 2 people are, maybe a coincidence
When Everyone hates you, That's called a clue.


Either way, Israel does whats best for them. They are not the US and they do NOT have our interests at heart. They would love to see thousands of Americans burn, if only to get us to do their dirty work. They OWN congress through AIPAC. Only a fool thinks they are an ally.
 
If we’re using that metric Iran earned some attention all the way back in Iraq during the GWOT.

I’m totally OK with bombing them into extinction. Muslims, particularly of the Middle Eastern variety; when allowed to self govern, are barbarians little removed from animals and should be treated as such.

I have no interest in direct regime change, nation building, or even diplomacy.

We either stay out of it, which is fine with me too, or we go fuck them up so bad it gets written into their Quran and other ravings of the goat fucker Mohammed.

Either way I think we’re done talking, there is no constructive conversation to be had with them.
They should have been annihilated during OIF when they were supplying/training AQ to kill Americans. Bush was a pussy faggot puppet.

Its one of the reasons you know OIF was about money not WMDS/regional security. Iran killing Americans and they did nothing about it, because the money spigot was flowing. I lost good buddies to IRCG training and weapons.

Waiting 20 years to do something about it is a joke. Kill em, fuck who cares. I just don't want to see more dead Americans.
 
so tired of the speculation from pundits and politicians.
iran needs to believe trump will do something...it doesn't mean he will.
if iran believes trump won't do anything, they don't have as much incentive to seek peace.

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even with the 7.6 BILLION investment, left for their Military apparatus (thanks Joe), they'll be driving Toyota HiLux's at the end of the day.
On the other hand, lots of GREAT 'how to' videos coming out of Afghanistan on rebuilding Cummins' Engines with basic tools.
yep....much of those vehicles parts cant be bought at an auto zone
 
When someone is a jerk to you maybe they are an asshole.
When 2 people are, maybe a coincidence
When Everyone hates you, That's called a clue.


Either way, Israel does whats best for them. They are not the US and they do NOT have our interests at heart. They would love to see thousands of Americans burn, if only to get us to do their dirty work. They OWN congress through AIPAC. Only a fool thinks they are an ally.


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