Anyone taking it? My doc said I could probably get insurance to approve zepbound. Worth trying or keep "dieting and exercising" 
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There arent any silver bullets. Diet and exercise.Anyone taking it? My doc said I could probably get insurance to approve zepbound. Worth trying or keep "dieting and exercising"
Don't bother with "diet"
If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you need a lifestyle change and an over all eating habits and eating menu change that you can comfortably keep up for decades.
If you want to lose weight and keep it off, you need a lifestyle change and an over all eating habits and eating menu change that you can comfortably keep up for decades.
I thought for sure this was going to be about golf.
Hell no! $1200 a month only for it to not work or the weight to come back as soon as you quit taking it. If you don't change your lifestyle, you will never keep it off.
Count your calories and strength train. That's the easiest way to see progress which helps motivate people. I didn't listen to a good friend for years. Last August, he started training me and coaching me on my nutrition. I lost 20 pounds in 12 weeks while being able to gain muscle. After 12 weeks, I started working out on my own with what he taught me. I'm in my mid 40s and in the best shape I've ever been in.
Count your calories and strength train. That's the easiest way to see progress which helps motivate people. I didn't listen to a good friend for years. Last August, he started training me and coaching me on my nutrition. I lost 20 pounds in 12 weeks while being able to gain muscle. After 12 weeks, I started working out on my own with what he taught me. I'm in my mid 40s and in the best shape I've ever been in.
I agree no short cut will lead to lasting results. A "lifestyle change" as already stated is necessary. Proper nutrition, weight/strength training and at least moderate cardio 160 minutes or more a week. Follow this and you will lose weight, gain strength, get ripped and have it last as long as you stick with it. Weight or strength training becomes more valuable as you age. Helps to keep your bones and ligaments strong as well. Improved flexibility and better posture. Training with proper diet will naturally increase your T and this will enable you to make greater gains yet.
V-Shred for the win. If you don’t look like Vince sant then you’re doing it wrong. He says you can eat whatever you want
Step away from the carbs and sugar. Be habitually active, including strength training. Bad diet kills. Young-ish and training hard will lower the impact of bad diet, but in your 40’s+, bad dietary habits trump everything.
Three of the ladies at my wife’s office are on some version of it… dramatic weight loss for one after a year, but she was close to being morbidly obese. The other two just look thinner, but weren’t horrendously overweight to begin with.
Basically makes them feel full after just a couple bites of food.
Basically makes them feel full after just a couple bites of food.
Nailed it! Plus copious amounts of exercise daily, it’s good for the soul…
They are a crutch and not without a fair amount of risk....pancreatitis, kidneys, GI. just to start. As said above full lifestyle change. Otherwise you are trading a lifelong pharmaceutical vs just doing what you need to do. Not meaning to come off harsh at all just the truth. Stop any GLP-1 without serious lifestyle changes and you'll be back at the same place.
Throw that fucking shit away! If you can't kill it, catch it or grow it.....Don't put it in your mouth. I can't comprehend How men turn to be fat, lazy fucks and not want to see what their bodies are physically capable of. Addicted to comfort and gluttony, i guess. It's so simple to look good and become strong with a proper diet and genuine effort put forth in a training discipline. My favorite being Olympic weightlifting. Forge into the dungeons of strength training and refine your body and soul with fire from the barbel and sweat. I'm pushing 40 and can *almost* snatch 100 keys. Almost there.....We'll get there by Thanksgiving. Here's a reddit post for confirmation.
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Several years ago I went cold turkey on carbs and sugar I looked at every label and probably ate a days carbs in a week if that. Only issue is you get used to no sugar and eat something like yellow mustard and realize it tastes like cake icing pretty much. I wasn’t even working out and was dropping weight.
I pretty much ate meat and green beans, mashed cauliflower, spinach, or peas. There’s a few real low carb “breads” out now
It works for blood sugar. In all honesty, cutting carbs to 60 per meal and 20 per snack does tons even with minimal exercise. Get a jar of Nutella or something for the occasional time where you are seriously craving a fix. Then nurse one single tablespoon. It does wonders.
Id nurse a pint of halo top birthday cake ice cream or a Lily’s chocolate bar but I think it changed
Bruh! Learn how to say no. No to yourself.
Eat healthy and do some basic dude stuff.
Here is a quote from a really wise man.
“….But my advice is “push back from the table” and eat less and eat better. Diets don’t work, discipline does. Saying no to more, no to habitual sweets, no to sugary drinks is not a diet, it’s simple self discipline, it’s a lifestyle.”
Eat healthy and do some basic dude stuff.
Here is a quote from a really wise man.
“….But my advice is “push back from the table” and eat less and eat better. Diets don’t work, discipline does. Saying no to more, no to habitual sweets, no to sugary drinks is not a diet, it’s simple self discipline, it’s a lifestyle.”
I have wanted to do this for so long, but with my training I just don’t see how I can. Diet and nutrition is something I have always been very interested in. I have a very clean diet, but it is very carb & protein heavy. I train for endurance cycling (mountain bike specifically), carbs are my fuel source. I separate my training nutrition and daily nutrition by consuming a very different group of foods. On the bike it is as high glycemic carbs as I can get: glucose and fructose in a 1:0.8 to 1:1 ratio in the form of liquid, gels, or candies and pastries that I do not allow myself to eat off the bike. Off the bike it’s just lots of animal based protein, Greek yogurt with no BS in it, white and brown rice, sweet potatoes, oats, butter, nuts occasionally fruit, very minimal breads no pasta, no drinks with calories except milk (this is a BIG one, do not drink your calories), minimal vegetables except root vegetables. I have not had a soda or sports drink off the bike since like 2001-2002, or alcohol in well over 10 years and I don’t miss them.
I would love to cut the daily carbs but I just don’t have the power needed to do the training I do. My workouts will burn between 800 and 3500 calories at a time for “regular days” but on longer days I will go well over that where 5000 + isn’t uncommon. That is just the workout, never mind my BMR or normal activities during the day. Maybe one day I’ll try it again, I keep threatening my wife that I am going to… haha
If you want to lose weight, retire. I retired at the end of March, 2024. Since then, I’ve lost 22 pounds. I went from 219 to 197. I’ve literally worked my ass off since I retired.
I’ve know several who are on it. 2 have had drastic weight loss, a couple others barely any.
I’m very obese, but I don’t like taking any unnecessary medications, but my wife has been harassing me about it.
My son just bought himself a rogue fitness power rack and weights, and he going to buy an echo bike as well( he wrestles and wants to get in better shape). Figure I’d use his equipment.
Diet is the hardest part, drink way to much soda.
I definitely need to make some lifestyle changes.
I’m very obese, but I don’t like taking any unnecessary medications, but my wife has been harassing me about it.
My son just bought himself a rogue fitness power rack and weights, and he going to buy an echo bike as well( he wrestles and wants to get in better shape). Figure I’d use his equipment.
Diet is the hardest part, drink way to much soda.
I definitely need to make some lifestyle changes.
The VA has me on a weight loss program , I've lost 50lbs since the 1st of the year , I'm on wegovy, it's a epipen type injection, was 305 lbs and now down to 245 so actually 60lbs. Quit drinking alcohol and cut the carbs and workout on my marcy gym 2-3 times a week , for me cutting carbs is the hardest, miss the pasta and potatoes a lot more than the bourbon, also trying to be more active, I think the staying active is more important than anything , I'm 69yrs old and retired for 9yrs , always had a outside construction job ,so retirement and not being as active was what packed on the weight for me , not wanting to stay on the wegovy for long term , I can't be good for you and there's no long term studies that I'm aware of , if I can get down to 220lbs I'll be happy and think I can maintain that with proper diet and exercise.dont have a before pic but here's one from earlier this month
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60lbs ???
You just gave yourself another 10 years of lifespan, good job
If you want to do one thing to make a huge difference, just stop the soda.
You could drop a ton of weight only from that.
You don't need to drink that shit, the sugar has you addicted.
Good luck
I picked up two 25ld plates ,one in each hand and walked around the room with them for a few minutes, damn can't believe I was that much heavier 6months ago , and getting up off the floor is so much easier, was planning on having my left knee replaced , it's bone on bone ,but now it doesn't give me nearly as much pain , so going to hold off on that for awhile, had the right knee replaced in 2018 and that was such a relief, was hobbling around on that right knee for 20 yrs , don't know why I waited so long, the VA paid for all of the cost so should have done it yrs ago.
Thank you! I underestimated what I personal trainer can do for a person. Even though he doesn't train me anymore, he still makes sure that I'm making progress.
I was drinking just under 1k calories worth of Mt dew every day. That's almost half of the daily calories and there is zero nutrition in it. I still have one a day. I quit for months but I decided to try drinking it in moderation. It's easier for me do that than constantly fight cravings.
Diet is absolutely the hardest part! I do a lot of meal prepping to make it easier to hit my daily caloric intake. It sucks eating the same thing for days, but it makes you look forward to a cheat meal once a week. After a while, you find your cheat meal is usually a lot healthier than most of your meals before changing your lifestyle. It is easier if you can get your wife to cook and eat healthier with you. That's a battle I struggle with, my wife likes to eat like shit.
Combine that with some genuine EFFORT made in training with a barbel..... @chillywig will be hardened in both body and spirit in no time, if he eats right!! My boys....Stop being fucking lazy and go forge yourself in the gym. You'll thank yourself later for it.
I stopped drinking sodas about 5 yrs ago , don't miss them at all , I'll still have a Dr pepper on occasion with a meal at a restaurant but never buy any at the grocery store, I have a brother that drinks Mt dew all day long , 56yrs old and been hospitalized 3 times for heart issues, you'd think that would be a wakeup call , but he still drinks that poison and smokes cigarettes on top of that , a heart attack just waiting to happen.
I've never worn a peice of jewelry in my life , not even a wristwatch, and all my body piercings were accidentally made and healed up.
I used to wear a wristwatch! But I fisted a pregnant Black chic and the fetus stole it!
I don't think my knees could handle that much weight, never tried Olympic weight lifting , just have a marcy home gym , and I don't lift all that much weight, I prefer medium weight and more reps ,don't want to look like a professional wrestler all pumped up and shit .just want to tone the muscle I've always had and lose the fat. I'm almost 70 and want to get back to where I was at 30.
I am going to live and travel in a class A RV for the next couple of month. Does anyone have an exercise regimen that does not require equipment and/or gym membership? I am 65 and do not need to lose weight but build and maintain upper body muscle mass.
I weaned myself off the sugar drinks by progressively diluting them with water. First 50/50 then 75/25 and so on.
I still don't like pure water unless I am really, really thirsty but water with a dusting of lemonade powder or little bit of orange juice works for me to stay hydrated. I seems to be a psychological addiction to the palate stimulation.
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Push-ups, body weight squats knees over toes, and some way to do chins. 3 sets until failure every other day.
The vast majority of men don’t need to lift weights or do fad diets. Just eat healthy food, limit your portions, and WALK! Seriously, if you’re seriously overweight/out of shape then start out with 10-15 minutes of walking a brisk walk. Just make sure it’s enough to get you breathing hard and get all the juices flowing. Then it will progress naturally.
Then go pick up a barbell and stop being a whiny little bitch and giving me excuses I don't to hear.
Never tried Olympic weightlifting? Perfect. Then you have absolutely no bad habits to break. We may begin. *clears throat* mmhmm You can start by going to the gym and working out with an empty barbell. Go get completely smoked by moving an empty barbell; practicing the Snatch. From your shins to Overhead in one motion, Go. Trace your body with the bar as you go up starting from the deadlift position. As you can see, as a father of 2 at 37 years....I can still slam bars and get new PR's if I JUST SHOW TF UP AND DO IT! Fuck you(r) excuses if thats all you're going giving me. They mean nothing to me; as they should you aswell. Oh and uh FYI......Olympic weightlifters aren't all exactly monstrous heathens like body builders or wrestlers. Go check any YouTube USAW Nationals or worlds.
"He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man." Hunter S. Thompson. Mine is the Olympic barbell.
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The safest and most effective weight loss exercise for seriously obese people is swimming. No impact and the energy expended increases with the square of your speed. Additionally, the water being colder than your body will suck a lot of calories out of you.
Go to Walmart and grab some dumbbells and do some curls in the aisle to see what you’ll need for weight. Do some presses with them. Easy enough.
I’m buying some this next week to help me along. I had a bad accident in 2019 and a stroke in 2021 and am finally to the point I can do some workouts. I lost a ton af muscle. I turned wrenches on heavy equipment and industrial maintenance for 12 years and before that I was a toolmaker and kept myself in shape with physical farm work and redneck workouts. Pictures of me before the accident compared to now are pretty sickening for me. The only thing that saved me was I was healthy and in shape.
Just eat good and stay physical. You don’t have to kill yourself to stay in shape but if you don’t stay in shape it will kill you.
ETA: Every pound you carry is 4 pounds on your knees. Something to think about.
Walk a LOT! Also look into and implement NEAT, you can burn quite a lot of calories just sitting, or driving in your case. Same with isometrics.
I'll actually open up about this as I struggled all my life with weight.Anyone taking it? My doc said I could probably get insurance to approve zepbound. Worth trying or keep "dieting and exercising"
TLDR Version: NOT WORTH IT.
I had severe diabetes and was really struggling to get my blood sugar down. I was placed on Ozempic (which is what all the cool kids use for weight loss).
(1) It DOES kill your appetite. Like its gone. Nada. No mas.
(2) You get constant diarrhea. Explosive shits. Anytime, anwhere. You'll never trust a fart again.
(3) You get SEVERE Nausea. Like having the Flu 24/7? Take that shit.
(4) The site has a big warning about Thyroid Cancer. FUCK ME. Trade Diabetes for Cancer? Ugh
I stopped after two weeks and switched to a different medication (Jardiance). It helped my sugar. I still never lost weight.
What I did to lose weight: I did a "Shock" treatment. I enrolled for bariatric surgery. The doctor sat with me at the consult and said, if this were cancer and I told you it would add 10 years to your life expectancy, you would jump at the chance right? Right.
But here's the thing, it wasn't just surgery, it was 9 months of coaching and changes of lifestyle. Learning how to "eat" and control hunger pains. Dealing with stress, anxiety, etc... Learning how to re-eat again. and yes exercise. THe worst part--its 99% women. So its all this time talking about your feelings and pregnancy and hair loss. Fuck that, I'm bald and I want to lose weight.
The good news is WALKING was/is a great exercise, you don't have to kill yourself in the gym. Because I am a fucking over-acheiver I hit my 18 month goals in 6 months. I'm down 170 lbs, Yes, surgery had its side effects--there is always a risk of complication. But here's the thing, I have to take multiviatmins as I essential no longer have a stomach. But I dropped:
(1) All my diabetes medications. As of today I take 0 diabetes meds and my blood sugar is under control.
(2) My cholesteral meds were cut in half. I have heriditary and dietary problems. I now have the lowest in my family.
(3) MY BP and HR are stupid good. I can put as much salt on shit as I want and my resting HR is now 50 and drops in the 40s at night.
The day after surgery I walked 1000 steps up and down the hall of my house (in winter). Now I walk every day (or most days) for 1 hour. I can eat anything I want, I have to really focus on protein (insert joke here). I can have a beer. I can have pie. I just get 1 beer or a small piece of pie.
I also ran my first 5k last year. Yes I finished last of the runners, but considering I used to be able to go 10 mins before my legs went numb, doing 3 miles in 45 minutes was a major victory (6'2 260 lb guy running!) When I went to a Frank/Mark class, I was so winded and sweaty Mark was carrying my rifle and I got a knickname. That was pre-surgery. I don't have the problem anymore--I ruck with my 25 lbs in a backpack in full heat. No issues.
Met this week with team for follow ups at 18 months. I still "struggle" with weight, because once you start losing you want to keep losing. 170 isn't enough, I want MORE and now its SO DAMN CLOSE. We talked about weight loss drugs. I refused. Once of the things she mentioned is that once you are on them, you essentially stay on them for life. My goal was to get off that shit.
Get to a nutritionist and your doctor and work on healthy eating and exercise. If you can walk for 20 mins--your goal is walk 25. Right now my goal is a 35min 5k. I'm a fat man running. (You'll struggle to see yourself as not-fat--despite the fact I now wear "normal" clothes)
But I am running. Last year on my Alaska cruise I was hiking all over the place with no issues and let me tell you that was worth everything when you are no longer the bottleneck I'm also a killer at baby showers because for 2 months I had to eat baby food while my stomach healed so I can guess all the stupid games of "what food is this". Still worth it.
Drugs mask the problem, they don't fix it.
That’s my biggest struggle, I’ve cut back a lot but still drink it.
I’ve tried switching to unsweetened tea( can’t stand sugar substitutes) and water. Slowly but surely I’m drinking more of those than soda. But Dammit it sucks.
Getting the family on the same page is a real PITA, my wife, my 17 yo and my 7 year old have very different ideas on food
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