Rifle Scopes Atacr gen 2

I gave the 4-16 a try because I couldn't stand the tunneling on the early 5-25. I use 4-5x when calling coyotes sometime and looking down a $2.5k toilet paper tube just felt stupid. Did it prevent good shots? No. But it sure rubbed me wrong. I have owned at least one 4-16 at all times since then.

I kind of agree with what someone alluded to earlier...the 4-20 doesn't really offer much that the 7-35x doesn't unless you absolutely need to go <7x. Just the 4-16x42's turrets alone would make the 4-20 way more appealing imo.
 
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I'd bet money on R and D working on a post patent series of scopes. What will come of it, who knows.

Now I'd expect the mid razor to take some of air out of the 4-16 ATACR initially. Same as the G3 6-36 did to the 7-35. All the paid shills pushed hard and had initial success. Longer term it didn't hold.

When you could get the g3 for sub-$2k it was a great scope, but once the cost rose it was a good scope. The new hotness wore off and it's just another option thats rarely suggested in the "i need a scope" threads any more.

That said the 4-16 ATACR is a good scope that gets recommend a lot still despite being long in the tooth. Which means it's holding up with the new kids.

Nightforce is a marketing company first and foremost. This is why they don't have new designs very often. I swear they spend 1% on R&D and 99% on marketing.
I'm constantly seeing the fanboys here, ads all over, Nightforce is the best thing and will never break even if I throw it off the space station....

I can't stand using the damn things. They don't do anything any better other than be heavy and outdated... 😂
 
Nightforce is a marketing company first and foremost. This is why they don't have new designs very often. I swear they spend 1% on R&D and 99% on marketing.
I'm constantly seeing the fanboys here, ads all over, Nightforce is the best thing and will never break even if I throw it off the space station....

I can't stand using the damn things. They don't do anything any better other than be heavy and outdated... 😂

Im not so sure their best days aren’t behind them. They were always a safe upper-mid pack bet but some of the people that made them a household name are long gone.
 
Im not so sure their best days aren’t behind them. They were always a safe upper-mid pack bet but some of the people that made them a household name are long gone.
They could totally rectify that, but the gen2 atacr will likely net a 25-30% increase in price and land them into ZCO 527 price territory. If it can't compete there, NF will slowly die in the public market, perhaps the mil/le contracts can keep them afloat, idk.