Rifle Scopes Atacr gen 2

I gave the 4-16 a try because I couldn't stand the tunneling on the early 5-25. I use 4-5x when calling coyotes sometime and looking down a $2.5k toilet paper tube just felt stupid. Did it prevent good shots? No. But it sure rubbed me wrong. I have owned at least one 4-16 at all times since then.

I kind of agree with what someone alluded to earlier...the 4-20 doesn't really offer much that the 7-35x doesn't unless you absolutely need to go <7x. Just the 4-16x42's turrets alone would make the 4-20 way more appealing imo.
 
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I'd bet money on R and D working on a post patent series of scopes. What will come of it, who knows.

Now I'd expect the mid razor to take some of air out of the 4-16 ATACR initially. Same as the G3 6-36 did to the 7-35. All the paid shills pushed hard and had initial success. Longer term it didn't hold.

When you could get the g3 for sub-$2k it was a great scope, but once the cost rose it was a good scope. The new hotness wore off and it's just another option thats rarely suggested in the "i need a scope" threads any more.

That said the 4-16 ATACR is a good scope that gets recommend a lot still despite being long in the tooth. Which means it's holding up with the new kids.

Nightforce is a marketing company first and foremost. This is why they don't have new designs very often. I swear they spend 1% on R&D and 99% on marketing.
I'm constantly seeing the fanboys here, ads all over, Nightforce is the best thing and will never break even if I throw it off the space station....

I can't stand using the damn things. They don't do anything any better other than be heavy and outdated... 😂
 
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Nightforce is a marketing company first and foremost. This is why they don't have new designs very often. I swear they spend 1% on R&D and 99% on marketing.
I'm constantly seeing the fanboys here, ads all over, Nightforce is the best thing and will never break even if I throw it off the space station....

I can't stand using the damn things. They don't do anything any better other than be heavy and outdated... 😂

Im not so sure their best days aren’t behind them. They were always a safe upper-mid pack bet but some of the people that made them a household name are long gone.
 
Im not so sure their best days aren’t behind them. They were always a safe upper-mid pack bet but some of the people that made them a household name are long gone.
They could totally rectify that, but the gen2 atacr will likely net a 25-30% increase in price and land them into ZCO 527 price territory. If it can't compete there, NF will slowly die in the public market, perhaps the mil/le contracts can keep them afloat, idk.
 
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I can't stand using the damn things. They don't do anything any better other than be heavy and outdated... 😂

Scope body holds lenses, and turrets turn screws that holds the reticle. So In that aspect I agree with you that pretty much every scope does the same thing.

As long as the glass quality is acceptable, and it tracks true while holding zero I'm not sure what there is to hate.

I've been a fan of the nxs line is about the cheapest scopes that I've had no issues with zero retention and tracking. Overall they seem to weight similar as other offerings in the same class. So not sure what heavy means.
 
Nightforce is a marketing company first and foremost. This is why they don't have new designs very often. I swear they spend 1% on R&D and 99% on marketing.
I'm constantly seeing the fanboys here, ads all over, Nightforce is the best thing and will never break even if I throw it off the space station....

I can't stand using the damn things. They don't do anything any better other than be heavy and outdated... 😂
Well they are expanding and spending money on more than marketing and r&d…



Technically NOT NF, but kinda is.