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That would be great, but I don't see it happening. These scopes are marketed to compete with others in its price range. The ATACR, vortex, ior. No way will the ultra pricey lower theirs. But it's always nice to have competition in the scopes of that price range.

I understand. But wouldn't it be better to shoot at moa calibrated targets with a moa calibrated reticle?

A target in which the circles on the target are in moa.

Couple of hundred yes, couple of thousands no. Plus how often do you mess with a zero stop. My SCOPE has a zero stop and after I got it, I set it.......about three years ago.

I take it you are referring to the new Steiner. There are people in this world that equates quality with price. In all actuality the new Steiner could be just as good as the new TT and to some people it wouldn't matter they would still buy the TT for no other reason than it cost more so it has...

And the hash marks on the turret line up with the indicator line. Impressive.

To Steiner. I'm not asking when the scopes will be released, but rather when can we expect a review?

Semantics.

There ya go. You just said what I've been saying all along. Just change to word advantage to quality. You are not saying the S&B' s are of bad quality. Just not good enough quality to justify another $3000.

I value your input Frank. Thanks.

Sure it does. It means there was something about the other scopes they didn't like. SCOPE a May say they have the best engineers in the world and they have designed the best turrets in the world. Should I take their word for it or should I go out and see for myself. And when I see for myself I...

If you have had the chance to use one then you are a end user and if you think they are of high quality that is great. But someone else may use it and decide it is not of good quality, or not of good enough quality to justify the price. If a guy has $5000 laying around to buy any 5x25 SCOPE...

You missed the point. I wasn't calling the quality of the SCOPE into question. I'm saying only the end user can decide if a product is of high quality or not. Some may "touch" it and thank it is of high quality, others may not, but only they can decide.

Costing $4000+ doesn't make a tier one SCOPE. All the reviews in the world from manufacturers and sales reps don't create a quality product. Only the end user can speak from a quality stand point. The end user decides which scopes are tier one and which scopes are not and that list can change...

The hash marks being off was not a ridiculous assumption. It was a plainly visible fact and wasn't meant to be inflammatory but rather a query as to why a company would send a sales rep a SCOPE to review, take pictures of and post on a forum for all to see that the "centerpiece of the SCOPE" was...

I don't dislike anyone because they have a different view than me regarding a SCOPE. And yes, I will not buy one. Not because I don't like them, because I can't afford them. No different than a S&B. I guess I should not have posted on this thread because you are right, I have nothing to...

That is pretty good eye sight to be able to see 6/10000". It looked to be around 3/32" between hash marks. It appeared to be close to the center. That would be around 3/64"...but considering Camera angles?

Yes. If you go to the 6.02 part of the video when the zero stop is being explained. He turns to about 1.6 mils and the arrow is not on a hash mark then either. Zero is on the arrow. But it seems to be in between the hash marks on all other numbers.

Just watched the video. Is it just me or does the arrow not line up with the turret markings when he dials in the 6.5 mils? It looks to be perfectly in between the turret hash marks.