16-18 inch shorty rifles

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    Got my first coyote with the new setup this last weekend. Running 3300 FPS with 58 gr VMAX from the 16.5” 243. Could probably go faster if I wanted as I didn’t have any pressure signs or sticky bolt but I’ll probably leave as is.
    What threads did you go with at 16.5"?
     

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    This thread keeps pushing me towards shorter. I've got a .308 24" Savage 11VT barrel I'll be threading for a TBAC can mount and I'm unsure what combination of long can/short can and long barrel/short barrel I want to take it. 24" and an Ultra 9 works well for PRS TAC and other 308 class stuff, but if I ever want to go into the woods for deer or elk I'm certain a Dominus CB on the end of a 16" tube is wildly preferable. Choices...
    I have an 18" 6.5 Creed and a Dominus CB in jail. Been using a Harvester and a 30P-1 on it. I have a 22BR and a 223 that ma end up at 18" or less soon.
     
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    I am curious to see the velocities I will get with it. This is going to chambered in 6.5 Creedmoor as I already have a Tikka CTR chambered the same. Easier in current market to reload what I already have than find new. The CTR with 24 inch factory barrel is very accurate but slow. I know that the short barrel will be slower already but the numbers others have shared look like I might actually be in the same ballpark as my CTR. If so I might order up a replacement barrel for the CTR so I can get the most out of that rifle.
    I got 2715 fps out of a factory 20" 6.5 CTR barrel with the original 130 Prime ammo. Chopped a 24" Bartlein down to 18" and get 2740 fps with the same load.
     

    DavidBoren

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    A real shorty - built around an XP100 pistol on fiddleback walnut bullpup stock, milled in the 70's.

    Chambered in .308 with 16" barrel plus brake. Little guy is 34" overall and will still do 1/2" @ 100.

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    A dandy little brush gun for deer and hogs. Fun one-of-a-kind build. Call it a REM7 Bull Pup.

    This is absolutely awesome. Most want.
     

    Daddyusmaximus

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    Nice jeweling on the bolt and mag follower.
    Was on ebay looking for a magazine spring for it and found a guy who does it up in MI. Couldn't resist. Found out later my gunsmith can do it too. Oops. He's gonna do my 6.5x55 while he has it. It's getting a Timney trigger, a Boyd's stock, shortened to 18", bolt handle, and the K95 I got off the Israeli surplus sales thread.
     
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    snbyiggidy1

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    I got 2715 fps out of a factory 20" 6.5 CTR barrel with the original 130 Prime ammo. Chopped a 24" Bartlein down to 18" and get 2740 fps with the same load.
    I wish I was getting those velocities with my factory barrel. Best so far has been just under 2600. Can’t remember the exact velocities without looking in my log which is at home. But it is slow. Will have to fiddle a little more with it. It is accurate half MOA or better depending on me doing my part but could be faster.
     

    eyekahn

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    I wish I was getting those velocities with my factory barrel. Best so far has been just under 2600. Can’t remember the exact velocities without looking in my log which is at home. But it is slow. Will have to fiddle a little more with it. It is accurate half MOA or better depending on me doing my part but could be faster.

    What factory barrel? I was at 2720 with a 16" SS Proof suppressed. With 130 Berger's and 43gr H4350.

    If your factory barrel isn't SS it's going to be slower.

    I was also .010 off the lands so that speeds things up also.

    Factory ammo is usually pretty slow just to be safe.
     

    snbyiggidy1

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    What factory barrel? I was at 2720 with a 16" SS Proof suppressed. With 130 Berger's and 43gr H4350.

    If your factory barrel isn't SS it's going to be slower.

    I was also .010 off the lands so that speeds things up also.

    Factory ammo is usually pretty slow just to be safe.
    24 inch Tikka CTR stainless. I was off on what I reported. It actually is averaging 2528. That is using 41 grains IMR4350 and Hornady 140 ELDM. Like I said it is slow but does shoot well. I have shot it seated at .010 but it was not as consistent. Best so far is .037 off. Don’t want to derail the shorty thread. I am excited to get my proof 16.5 barrel and the build done and do some comparisons. Might try some different loads too in the CTR to see if I get better results.
     

    eyekahn

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    24 inch Tikka CTR stainless. I was off on what I reported. It actually is averaging 2528. That is using 41 grains IMR4350 and Hornady 140 ELDM. Like I said it is slow but does shoot well. I have shot it seated at .010 but it was not as consistent. Best so far is .037 off. Don’t want to derail the shorty thread. I am excited to get my proof 16.5 barrel and the build done and do some comparisons. Might try some different loads too in the CTR to see if I get better results.


    16" 6.5CM is perfection!

    Here is my buddies 16.5" proof R700.

    That thing has put down a LOT of Deer and Coyote. He loves shooting 129sst superformance
     

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    Longshot85

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    16" 6.5CM is perfection!

    Here is my buddies 16.5" proof R700.

    That thing has put down a LOT of Deer and Coyote. He loves shooting 129sst superformance
    Awesome 👍👍

    I've used the 129sst superfomance and it's a GREAT hunting round. It was very accurate too. I took it out to distance and out of my 26 in 6.5CM barrel it started falling on it's face as far as losing accuracy past 650 yards.....BC isn't that great. Out to that distance though it absolutely hammered.
     

    tex68w

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    From this past weekend 16” .308 bbl with 175gr OTMs traveling at 2470fps. 12.5mils to 1k. 2-2.2mils of windage. Loving the 338 Ultra
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    In the barrel cut down test Rifle Shooter did a number of years ago they got 2466fps with 168FGMM out of the 16.5" barrel. I hope to get the same with mine if not close with the use of a can.

     
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    In the barrel cut down test Rifle Shooter did a number of years ago they got 2466fps with 168FGMM out of the 16.5" barrel. I hope to get the same with mine if not close with the use of a can.

    155 Scenars are good from short barrels.
     

    Guns&WhiteWater

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    I must have missed this. I'm putting in for either an Ultra 7, 9, or Dominus CB very soon, and it'll live on a short 308. How do you like the CB mount system?
    I like it a lot. I have four CB brakes and one CB flash hider on various rifles. The return to zero is consistent so I just switch the can around as needed. I do wish that I could find a threaded cover for the brakes, for times when I want to leave the can off, which isn't often with the shorties. A 16" braked 308 has quite a bit of concussion, as does a 10" 300 BLK. Area 419 had just come out with their system about the time I ordered my U7, but I am too deep in CB's to switch now.
     

    blackblue

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    I like it a lot. I have four CB brakes and one CB flash hider on various rifles. The return to zero is consistent so I just switch the can around as needed. I do wish that I could find a threaded cover for the brakes, for times when I want to leave the can off, which isn't often with the shorties. A 16" braked 308 has quite a bit of concussion, as does a 10" 300 BLK. Area 419 had just come out with their system about the time I ordered my U7, but I am too deep in CB's to switch now.
    TBAC has thread protectors for them.
     

    EubeenHadd

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    I like it a lot. I have four CB brakes and one CB flash hider on various rifles. The return to zero is consistent so I just switch the can around as needed. I do wish that I could find a threaded cover for the brakes, for times when I want to leave the can off, which isn't often with the shorties. A 16" braked 308 has quite a bit of concussion, as does a 10" 300 BLK. Area 419 had just come out with their system about the time I ordered my U7, but I am too deep in CB's to switch now.

    Hmm, the Area 419 hellfire system does sound tempting, but given that I'm interested in maintaining a quite small arsenal I'm not sure about removing them often, if ever. That in mind the CB brakes sound perfect
     
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    Getting close on the WTO rebuild.

    About 95% done with opening up the recoil lug area. Need to do a little more trimming and get a scope rail and DBM. Then either cerakote the BA OD Green or coat the stock Coyote to match the BA. Undecided for now.

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    I dig the two tone look with more OD than tan. Leave it.