.223 - 5.56

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Has anyone tried the new Nosler 85 RDF with Varget? I was looking at them and got two boxes but can't find any load data.
 
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I would like to have data on barrel length and twist to assimilate along with load data and 100yd group size.

Apples and Apples, then Oranges and Oranges.

Has nobody ever suggested this before?

Greg
 

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Desert Tech SAC 223 conversion 23" barrel with 1/7 twist Thunder beast break and Ultra 9 suppressor. 89 deg 29.98 58% 782'. Wind from 6:30 3-6 gusts to 9 mph. Light from 12:00 over head.
 

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R700 with criterion 26" 7 twist throated long for heavier bullets
75gr Eld-m
2018 lakecity brass
24gr Xbr8208
Cci 450
Seated 1.970" BTO or 2.500 COAL
.030" off the lands
Running 2960fps
 

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Well I tried the RDFs. 0EAB3C48-029A-44BE-AE1F-2039E090790B.jpeg9DF5C92D-65FC-4B12-BA06-34C9DA71F2F6.jpeg RDF 85 24.5 Varget. The bottom row was shot first a then the top. Looks like the .010 is the one I will be working with.
 
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2835 I am getting 2856 with Berger 80.5 24.5 varget
 
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1 in 8 bolt gun, should I try 70 RDF, 77 Custom Comp or 77RDF in front of 24 gr Varget or RL15 with .020 jump? Is anybody using the 77 Custom Comp or RDF? I've searched this thread and found nothing on the Noslers.

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Haven't started shoot it yet. Just trying to decide what to start with. This is a 20 inch barrel, so speed will be limited. 1 in 8, so I am sure it will not stablize the 85 RDF. Have your tried the Nosler 77 custom competition bullet or 77 RDF?

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Yes and they are ok but lack in consistency from bullet to bullet. Different base to ogives as much as .004
 

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+ 2000 on 23.4 grains of 8208xbr under a 77 grain Nosler custom competition in L/C brass. Shot sub MOA at 100 yards and near minute of guy holding the rifle at 600 yards... if you use SMKs, I bet it will do a bit better...
 

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+ 2000 on 23.4 grains of 8208xbr under a 77 grain Nosler custom competition in L/C brass. Shot sub MOA at 100 yards and near minute of guy holding the rifle at 600 yards... if you use SMKs, I bet it will do a bit better...
my load is 23.1 XBR with a 77 tmk seated max mag length and its 1/2 moa load out of my mk12 mod 1. CLE Douglas on it. Sub softball size rock at 615 yards. And 680 was hitting the 6” plate over and over. Boring accurate
 

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I ran 73 ELDs with quite a bit of jump and they shot good. Similar ogive
The reason I ask is because I was given a Savage model 11 in 223. The rifle is pretty accurate with the same ammo I use for my AR pistol. The magazine is stupid long for a 223 round. I bought a 223 Hornady modified case and from base to ogive was 1.960 with the 75gr bullet. If I remember correctly the mag will let me seat out to 2.455 for the cartridge.

i made some dummy rounds and they are 2.331 COAL. Here they are sitting in the mag. I'm going to be using this rifle for my son and as a trainer rifle also.IMG_20200202_082728869.jpg
 

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Well I tried the RDFs. View attachment 7146407View attachment 7146408 RDF 85 24.5 Varget. The bottom row was shot first a then the top. Looks like the .010 is the one I will be working with.

It's weird because I could never get the 264 RDFs to shoot out of my RPR. A lot of people have have said they love a huge jump, like .100 of a jump. I gave up trying with them. Glad to see you found a good grouping with them.
 

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I’m running an 18” ar and made loads on the edge of pressure with the 73 elds and they were zooming. I shot a rock chunk at 200 yards and flipped it like a prarie dog. The problem I have with Hornady is the runout between lots. I would get random 4-5” high fliers at 400. Switched to the 77 TMKs and loaded up 3,000 rounds with them. Killed a buck mule deer at 500 yards and an antelope at 230 and they preformed flawlessly
LC brass ‘12 and ‘13
77 TMK
23.1 grains of 8208 XBR
CCI 400
2,750 FPS out of 18” douglas
Accuracy 1/2 moa and will hold 3/4-1 moa at 600. Shot it out to 900 with good accuracy
 

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I know this is only one grouping. But this was during my load development. I will get a bunch of groups next week. My son shot out to 419 yards with this load and had about a 50% hit rate on steel plates. Very proud of him.
 
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Going to start working up loads with a 75ELD-M with Lapua brass in a 1/7 twist 26” barrel. I plan on doing an OCW test with a couple different powders listed below. What should my starting and stopping charge weights for each powder be?

8208: 23- 24.5 in .2gr increments?
Varget: 22.8-25
H4895: 23.5-24.8
 
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Going to start working up loads with a 75ELD-M with Lapua brass in a 1/7 twist 26” barrel. I plan on doing an OCW test with a couple different powders listed below. What should my starting and stopping charge weights for each powder be?

8208: 23- 24.5 in .2gr increments?
Varget: 22.8-25
H4895: 23.5-24.8
How did your testing go with those powders? I’m contemplating on which one of those to use.
 

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How did your testing go with those powders? I’m contemplating on which one of those to use.
Nothing yet. I’m traveling for work and need to pick up some 8208. I was just hoping to nail down the charges I was going to try beforehand. After looking around it seems like most people find there load between the ranges I gave for each powder
 
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Haven't started shoot it yet. Just trying to decide what to start with. This is a 20 inch barrel, so speed will be limited. 1 in 8, so I am sure it will not stablize the 85 RDF. Have your tried the Nosler 77 custom competition bullet or 77 RDF?

Bill
I know this post is from 2019, but I run the Nosler 77 gr Custom Comps in my .223 Wylde bolt gun with 8208XBR. I load to 23.2gr, at .015 off the lands. I’m using a 1/8 twist 22” barrel and get 2793 fps.

I also tested the 77gr RDF and they are hammering too. I’m running those at 23.4gr of 8208XBR at about 2850 fps. I jump them .030.
 
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finally got a .223 put together. bought a used barrel, 24" muellerworks 1:7.5 twist throated for the 75g ELD.

75g ELD
Virgin Lapua Brass
CCI 450
23.5g H4895
@2845fps
SD = 7
Jumped .040"
under 1/2 moa

stupid fun.

i didn't prep the brass at all, just loaded it and shot.

i got up to 24.5g @ 3020fps before I saw even minimal signs of pressure (primers started cratering a touch). but not bad at all.
 

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Re: Loads for .223- 5.56

20" Rockriver Varminator(predator/varmint hybrid)
1:8 twist
Win brass
OAL standard
AA2520 24.7
77smk

69gr bullet (seems not to care about make)
26gr AA2520
2950fps
my standard load
With that twist rate how do the heavies do? I have a 1:8 24in Wilson and anything heavier than a 62 doesn't do well at all. It has a match chamber thinkin about goin wylde
 

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I've had a Bushmaster Varminter for quite a while and it great for hunting but was hit and miss on accurate or tight grouping loads. I think a factory Hornady 55gr varmint load shot reasonably well out of it. Then I was looking at some old data and found this load and it was amazing.

WW brass
WW primers
53gr Hornady Match
25gr IMR 4064
Bushmaster 24" 1:9 twist barrel
SpecWar 7.62 Suppressor
3077 Avg fps
Best 3 shot group @ 100yds .219 MOA



 

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Here's my 800m LR .223 load:

Brass: Lapua
Bullet: 80gr Berger VLD
Primer: CCI BR4
Powder: Varget 23.8gr
Seating: .010" jump (ogive oal measurement: 1.870")
Barrel: 26" Benchmark varmint profile 1:8"
Velocity: 2915fps 10 shot Ave ES=16 SD=7.1
Environmentals: temp=+17c, R.H.=45% ASL=1124m wind=n/a

Here's an 11 shot group at 800m (the low shot is my sighter):


 
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Here's my 500m gopher gun load...

Brass: Lapua
Bullet: 69gr Sierra SMK
Primer: CCI BR4
Powder: BLC-2 26.6gr
Seating: .010" jump (ogive oal measurement: 1.885")
Barrel: 25" factory CZ varmint profile 1:9"
Velocity: 2994fps 10 shot Ave ES=19 SD=7.8
Environmentals: temp=+21c R.H.=33% ASL=683m wind=n/a

 

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Anyone give the 77RDF a shot yet? What is it tending to like with regards to there Lands?

Going to try slinging them out of a 20" with AR Comp for tac class.