.223 lapua brass breaks in half
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Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You are a jackass, this forum doesn't need or want people like you here. </div></div>
Actually, if you pay attention you will note that most people are fond of the post artist formerly known as NOBODY. As he said earlier, take a listen, you will most definitely learn something. Crass he may be, unwanted he is not.
Josh </div></div>
Actually I'm not the only one that doesn't care for him to be on this forum:
Originally Posted By: OilyOwl
Humors me that facts are construed as "flames" by the oblivious.
Posted by jrob300
Humors me that opinions are regarded as facts by the self important...
If you have something positive to contribute to this thread you are welcome. If not.. go away, NOBODY wants you here.
John
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You are a jackass, this forum doesn't need or want people like you here. </div></div>
Actually, if you pay attention you will note that most people are fond of the post artist formerly known as NOBODY. As he said earlier, take a listen, you will most definitely learn something. Crass he may be, unwanted he is not.
Josh </div></div>
Actually I'm not the only one that doesn't care for him to be on this forum:
Originally Posted By: OilyOwl
Humors me that facts are construed as "flames" by the oblivious.
Posted by jrob300
Humors me that opinions are regarded as facts by the self important...
If you have something positive to contribute to this thread you are welcome. If not.. go away, NOBODY wants you here.
John
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OilyOwl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can't imagine the beatdowns this poor guy has endured his whole life, been made fun of,always left out, now he's getting even with the World behind his computer. </div></div>
Exactly... what kind of a loser like OilyOwl has 192 posts in 2 days, get out and get a life. </div></div>
It's a very slippery slope,when you are forced to use yourself as a barometer of evaluation,in contrast to me. That'll get ugly fast.
Just sayin'. </div></div>
Weren't you already banned from this forum? Had to make a new screen name, huh? Seems like you make an ass of yourself pretty quick:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1643575
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OilyOwl</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can't imagine the beatdowns this poor guy has endured his whole life, been made fun of,always left out, now he's getting even with the World behind his computer. </div></div>
Exactly... what kind of a loser like OilyOwl has 192 posts in 2 days, get out and get a life. </div></div>
It's a very slippery slope,when you are forced to use yourself as a barometer of evaluation,in contrast to me. That'll get ugly fast.
Just sayin'. </div></div>
Weren't you already banned from this forum? Had to make a new screen name, huh? Seems like you make an ass of yourself pretty quick:
http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1643575
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can't imagine the beatdowns this poor guy has endured his whole life, been made fun of,always left out, now he's getting even with the World behind his computer. </div></div>
Exactly... what kind of a loser like OilyOwl has 192 posts in 2 days, get out and get a life. </div></div>
Not only that but he walks in and pisses all over eveyone's feet immediately and in general seems like an asshole.
Great way to introduce himself.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">can't imagine the beatdowns this poor guy has endured his whole life, been made fun of,always left out, now he's getting even with the World behind his computer. </div></div>
Exactly... what kind of a loser like OilyOwl has 192 posts in 2 days, get out and get a life. </div></div>
Not only that but he walks in and pisses all over eveyone's feet immediately and in general seems like an asshole.
Great way to introduce himself.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OilyOwl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your inability to process the obvious,is ceainly a longterm affliction.
Zip your lips,take notes and learn sumptin'...or bitch and moan as only you can do. </div></div>
Keep on posting, maybe you can get up to 300 posts in 3 days...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: OilyOwl</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Your inability to process the obvious,is ceainly a longterm affliction.
Zip your lips,take notes and learn sumptin'...or bitch and moan as only you can do. </div></div>
Keep on posting, maybe you can get up to 300 posts in 3 days...
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
As per always,should your keen "experience" take issue with any fact I've offered,I'll happily take the time to use smaller words so even you can understand your misconceptions.
In fact,please do...it'll be hilarious!
As per always,should your keen "experience" take issue with any fact I've offered,I'll happily take the time to use smaller words so even you can understand your misconceptions.
In fact,please do...it'll be hilarious!
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You are a jackass, this forum doesn't need or want people like you here. </div></div>
Actually, if you pay attention you will note that most people are fond of the post artist formerly known as NOBODY. As he said earlier, take a listen, you will most definitely learn something. Crass he may be, unwanted he is not.
Josh </div></div>
Actually I'm not the only one that doesn't care for him to be on this forum:
Originally Posted By: OilyOwl
Humors me that facts are construed as "flames" by the oblivious.
Posted by jrob300
Humors me that opinions are regarded as facts by the self important...
If you have something positive to contribute to this thread you are welcome. If not.. go away, NOBODY wants you here.
John
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I am in full support of you Dan46n2.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MinorDamage</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: dan46n2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
You are a jackass, this forum doesn't need or want people like you here. </div></div>
Actually, if you pay attention you will note that most people are fond of the post artist formerly known as NOBODY. As he said earlier, take a listen, you will most definitely learn something. Crass he may be, unwanted he is not.
Josh </div></div>
Actually I'm not the only one that doesn't care for him to be on this forum:
Originally Posted By: OilyOwl
Humors me that facts are construed as "flames" by the oblivious.
Posted by jrob300
Humors me that opinions are regarded as facts by the self important...
If you have something positive to contribute to this thread you are welcome. If not.. go away, NOBODY wants you here.
John
</div></div>
I am in full support of you Dan46n2.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David300</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Compare some to factory loaded rounds to see where the shoulder is.
It looks like a ring on the case neck where the shoulder starts in your chamber. </div></div>
Factory fodder is moot in a discussion broaching 2nd time fired hulls,fraught obviously by gross sizing(headspace) errors.
Savvy?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: David300</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Compare some to factory loaded rounds to see where the shoulder is.
It looks like a ring on the case neck where the shoulder starts in your chamber. </div></div>
Factory fodder is moot in a discussion broaching 2nd time fired hulls,fraught obviously by gross sizing(headspace) errors.
Savvy?
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Weren't you already banned from this forum? Had to make a new screen name, huh? <span style="font-weight: bold">Seems like you make an ass of yourself pretty quick:</span></div></div>
You've contributed nothing to this thread other than vitriol.
Conversely the man you are criticizing provided a great deal of insight into the cause of the case failure the OP experienced and techniques to prevent it.
Bravo.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Weren't you already banned from this forum? Had to make a new screen name, huh? <span style="font-weight: bold">Seems like you make an ass of yourself pretty quick:</span></div></div>
You've contributed nothing to this thread other than vitriol.
Conversely the man you are criticizing provided a great deal of insight into the cause of the case failure the OP experienced and techniques to prevent it.
Bravo.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Weren't you already banned from this forum? Had to make a new screen name, huh? <span style="font-weight: bold">Seems like you make an ass of yourself pretty quick:</span></div></div>
You've contributed nothing to this thread other than vitriol.
Conversely the man you are criticizing provided a great deal of insight into the cause of the case failure the OP experienced and techniques to prevent it.
Bravo. </div></div>
+1 OO has a way with words lol, but unless you can disprove what he's saying,....I would Shut Up and learn a lil.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MLC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Weren't you already banned from this forum? Had to make a new screen name, huh? <span style="font-weight: bold">Seems like you make an ass of yourself pretty quick:</span></div></div>
You've contributed nothing to this thread other than vitriol.
Conversely the man you are criticizing provided a great deal of insight into the cause of the case failure the OP experienced and techniques to prevent it.
Bravo. </div></div>
+1 OO has a way with words lol, but unless you can disprove what he's saying,....I would Shut Up and learn a lil.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
Laffin' here big time. While I'm not the oldest participant on this forum, I've learned enough that I've got two ears and one mouth and should use them proportionally. OilyOwl/NOBODY/adfinitum... has it right in this instance and while you may not like the way it comes across, I've learned from experience when I received my first flame posting from said individual years back that as a newbie here it would be best to keep quiet and read until I gained the expertise to then share. I realize you've been reloading for some time, but frankly, we all miss some details along the way and run into issues that serve to only hone our craft. Chalk it up to experience of which I look forward to gaining more (and giving back) each day.
That said, here is my prescription for testing this empirically to see if you indeed have a headspace issue. Load up a few pieces of virgin brass and skip any resizing whatsoever (just uniform the primer pocket, trim/chamfer/deburr the case mouth, load it up and shoot it). Save the brass as your test "specimens" and mark the baggie for reference later.
Now go buy the appropriate Sinclair bump gauge and bump gauge body Sinclair bump gauge and measure the fired cases. Take note of the measurements and determine an average.
Once that is complete, go back and measure a few of your already reloaded cartridges that have been bumped. Take note of measurements again and determine an average.
Compare the measurements. The measurements from your test specimen brass will show you the true measure of your rifle's headspace. Check and see if you indeed were bumping the shoulder to far and report back.
When you setup your die, adjust it to bump only .001"-.002" and lock it down with a locking ring.
Done. No more headspace separation worries and probably a more accurate rifle to boot!
Laffin' here big time. While I'm not the oldest participant on this forum, I've learned enough that I've got two ears and one mouth and should use them proportionally. OilyOwl/NOBODY/adfinitum... has it right in this instance and while you may not like the way it comes across, I've learned from experience when I received my first flame posting from said individual years back that as a newbie here it would be best to keep quiet and read until I gained the expertise to then share. I realize you've been reloading for some time, but frankly, we all miss some details along the way and run into issues that serve to only hone our craft. Chalk it up to experience of which I look forward to gaining more (and giving back) each day.
That said, here is my prescription for testing this empirically to see if you indeed have a headspace issue. Load up a few pieces of virgin brass and skip any resizing whatsoever (just uniform the primer pocket, trim/chamfer/deburr the case mouth, load it up and shoot it). Save the brass as your test "specimens" and mark the baggie for reference later.
Now go buy the appropriate Sinclair bump gauge and bump gauge body Sinclair bump gauge and measure the fired cases. Take note of the measurements and determine an average.
Once that is complete, go back and measure a few of your already reloaded cartridges that have been bumped. Take note of measurements again and determine an average.
Compare the measurements. The measurements from your test specimen brass will show you the true measure of your rifle's headspace. Check and see if you indeed were bumping the shoulder to far and report back.
When you setup your die, adjust it to bump only .001"-.002" and lock it down with a locking ring.
Done. No more headspace separation worries and probably a more accurate rifle to boot!
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
at least now you have decent 9mm or .45 brass... just use the bottom section. lol.
at least now you have decent 9mm or .45 brass... just use the bottom section. lol.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
His statements about neck turning for factory chambers is pure rubbish.
He does not have a way with words he has way with insults and making garbage sound believable to inexperienced people.
He does have some good insights but thinks he knows everything and clearly no one knows everything.
The parts of his knowledge that are good are runied by the poison in his mind. I feel sorry for this man he must be a very unhappy person.
It's freedom of speach not freedom of abuse.
Moderator informs me he has been removed.
His statements about neck turning for factory chambers is pure rubbish.
He does not have a way with words he has way with insults and making garbage sound believable to inexperienced people.
He does have some good insights but thinks he knows everything and clearly no one knows everything.
The parts of his knowledge that are good are runied by the poison in his mind. I feel sorry for this man he must be a very unhappy person.
It's freedom of speach not freedom of abuse.
Moderator informs me he has been removed.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Checked my f/l sizing die. Looks like that's it. Had no idea screwed all the way in that thing would push the shoulder that far back. Backed it out until the sized case is snug in the chamber. Now after I pull 40 rounds, how am I going to get the shoulders back out on the unfired brass?? Mild load of 4198? </div></div>
Problem corrected,Oily owl or Nobody or Larry from Alaska was correct.I oversized the case creating excessive headspace. Definitely a gross oversight on my part. I neck size for all of my other rifles and haven't f/l sized in a while. lesson learned. Oily owl obviously knows what he's talking about and has a lot of good info to offer. If he could only do it without trying to make everyone else look dumb. If he could, he would probably be one of the most respected guys on the site. So just take what advice he offers and ignore the condescending tone.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jdberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Checked my f/l sizing die. Looks like that's it. Had no idea screwed all the way in that thing would push the shoulder that far back. Backed it out until the sized case is snug in the chamber. Now after I pull 40 rounds, how am I going to get the shoulders back out on the unfired brass?? Mild load of 4198? </div></div>
Problem corrected,Oily owl or Nobody or Larry from Alaska was correct.I oversized the case creating excessive headspace. Definitely a gross oversight on my part. I neck size for all of my other rifles and haven't f/l sized in a while. lesson learned. Oily owl obviously knows what he's talking about and has a lot of good info to offer. If he could only do it without trying to make everyone else look dumb. If he could, he would probably be one of the most respected guys on the site. So just take what advice he offers and ignore the condescending tone.
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YOu guys have got to grow a skin. Larry has more practical knowlege to impart than most of us. Of course, one needs to sit still and think about what you're reading to absorb anything...
YOu guys have got to grow a skin. Larry has more practical knowlege to impart than most of us. Of course, one needs to sit still and think about what you're reading to absorb anything...
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
I usually get a case micrometer for all my rifle calibers. I like to know how much I am resizing my cases instead of just screwing the die down and backing off the die.
I usually get a case micrometer for all my rifle calibers. I like to know how much I am resizing my cases instead of just screwing the die down and backing off the die.
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NO NO NO! You don't cow down to someones abusive treatment just because they may have some knowledge you don't have.
There is no way I am doing that ever.
Several other people had the same correct information and gave it to the thread WITHOUT insults and snide putdowns .
This forum is WAY better off without that kind of member upsetting and killing the thread .
I can't believe what I am reading . Land of the brave home of the free!
People like OilyOwl stop many good posts from happening because people become aprehensive about posting there opinion if it goes against the forum BULLIES ideas .
NO NO NO! You don't cow down to someones abusive treatment just because they may have some knowledge you don't have.
There is no way I am doing that ever.
Several other people had the same correct information and gave it to the thread WITHOUT insults and snide putdowns .
This forum is WAY better off without that kind of member upsetting and killing the thread .
I can't believe what I am reading . Land of the brave home of the free!
People like OilyOwl stop many good posts from happening because people become aprehensive about posting there opinion if it goes against the forum BULLIES ideas .
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO NO NO! You don't cow down to someones abusive treatment just because they may have some knowledge you don't have
</div></div>
That's right.
You paint his house with a laser, then from 100 miles away they pickel the bomb into his front door...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO NO NO! You don't cow down to someones abusive treatment just because they may have some knowledge you don't have
</div></div>
That's right.
You paint his house with a laser, then from 100 miles away they pickel the bomb into his front door...
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
It's posts like this, fighting with this guy on the internet, that make his post-count so high. If you are familiar with NOBODY, then you will recognise the same vocabulary and style. He may be harsh; he may be mean, but you better give some serious consideration to what he says when he is giving technical advise. Don't let your pride/hurt feelings get in the way and cause you to do something stupid just because you wouldn't listen to him.
It's posts like this, fighting with this guy on the internet, that make his post-count so high. If you are familiar with NOBODY, then you will recognise the same vocabulary and style. He may be harsh; he may be mean, but you better give some serious consideration to what he says when he is giving technical advise. Don't let your pride/hurt feelings get in the way and cause you to do something stupid just because you wouldn't listen to him.
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This is good I get to know all his friends and put them on my ignore list.
This is good I get to know all his friends and put them on my ignore list.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is good I get to know all his friends and put them on my ignore list. </div></div>
Heh
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is good I get to know all his friends and put them on my ignore list. </div></div>
Heh
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is good I get to know all his friends and put them on my ignore list. </div></div>
what a weenie....
It's a glass panel. You're safe.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This is good I get to know all his friends and put them on my ignore list. </div></div>
what a weenie....
It's a glass panel. You're safe.
Re: .223 lapua brass breaks in half
Once you have us all ignored you can continue in your ignorant bliss
Once you have us all ignored you can continue in your ignorant bliss
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">His statements about neck turning for factory chambers is pure rubbish.
He does not have a way with words he has way with insults and making garbage sound believable to inexperienced people.
He does have some good insights but thinks he knows everything and clearly no one knows everything.
The parts of his knowledge that are good are runied by the poison in his mind. I feel sorry for this man he must be a very unhappy person.
It's freedom of speach not freedom of abuse.
Moderator informs me he has been removed. </div></div>
He certainly has a way with words but if you have a thick skin and read it is good info....not well put but not every one has the skills to type in a polite way
And all this carry on about O O is only clutering the thread....I am relitivly new to this forum and it good to see they are all the same
Neck turning a factory chamber is a waste of time......all you need is good brass and you will be far better off.....Match chamber with tight necks is a different matter....like my .290 6.5 neck....Tight neck that has to be turned and can be turned to get very little brass movement when firing but I am thinking I might get the neck opened to match Lapua brass as there necks are very even
Headspace
I used a comparator with a size larger enough to just clear the neck to measure the case length....If its new brass neck it up then size 2/3 back down causing a false shoulder then chamber it and the false should will get pushed back giving the chamber length....If its longer than spec you can use the flase should to hold the case back when fire forming to your chamber....or send it to a G/smith and get the barrel set back a whisker
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">His statements about neck turning for factory chambers is pure rubbish.
He does not have a way with words he has way with insults and making garbage sound believable to inexperienced people.
He does have some good insights but thinks he knows everything and clearly no one knows everything.
The parts of his knowledge that are good are runied by the poison in his mind. I feel sorry for this man he must be a very unhappy person.
It's freedom of speach not freedom of abuse.
Moderator informs me he has been removed. </div></div>
He certainly has a way with words but if you have a thick skin and read it is good info....not well put but not every one has the skills to type in a polite way
And all this carry on about O O is only clutering the thread....I am relitivly new to this forum and it good to see they are all the same
Neck turning a factory chamber is a waste of time......all you need is good brass and you will be far better off.....Match chamber with tight necks is a different matter....like my .290 6.5 neck....Tight neck that has to be turned and can be turned to get very little brass movement when firing but I am thinking I might get the neck opened to match Lapua brass as there necks are very even
Headspace
I used a comparator with a size larger enough to just clear the neck to measure the case length....If its new brass neck it up then size 2/3 back down causing a false shoulder then chamber it and the false should will get pushed back giving the chamber length....If its longer than spec you can use the flase should to hold the case back when fire forming to your chamber....or send it to a G/smith and get the barrel set back a whisker
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">His statements about neck turning for factory chambers is pure rubbish.
He does not have a way with words he has way with insults and making garbage sound believable to inexperienced people.
He does have some good insights but thinks he knows everything and clearly no one knows everything.
The parts of his knowledge that are good are runied by the poison in his mind. I feel sorry for this man he must be a very unhappy person.
It's freedom of speach not freedom of abuse.
Moderator informs me he has been removed. </div></div>
Cuntry,
Feel free to stick your neck out and take issue.
That'd be at least a double-dog dare and perhaps three.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Country</div><div class="ubbcode-body">His statements about neck turning for factory chambers is pure rubbish.
He does not have a way with words he has way with insults and making garbage sound believable to inexperienced people.
He does have some good insights but thinks he knows everything and clearly no one knows everything.
The parts of his knowledge that are good are runied by the poison in his mind. I feel sorry for this man he must be a very unhappy person.
It's freedom of speach not freedom of abuse.
Moderator informs me he has been removed. </div></div>
Cuntry,
Feel free to stick your neck out and take issue.
That'd be at least a double-dog dare and perhaps three.
