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44 mag 310gr oregon trail bullet

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anyone have any experience loading this thing? I would like to stick with 2400 powder even though h110 may be my best bet. Ive done some preliminary research on the web and the advice is anywhere from 14-18.5 grains of 2400. The alliant website does not list this bullet but they do list a 300gr uscp but i have no idea what that is, its not on the speer bullet site?
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I dont have any data for 2400 and a lead 300gr bullet? Alliant website only lists a 300gr uscp and I dont know what that is. All my reloading books are a little older and only list a hornady or nosler 300gr jacketed? I already load 19-20 grains of 2400 on either a plated HP or JHP. Heavier bullets need less powder but lead can use more cause they cause less friction? Also I was trying to avoid going and buying a pound of h110
 
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Here's Hodgdon data from their website for a 325gr Lead bullet. This will get you started for sure.
Bullet Weight (Gr.) Manufacturer Powder Bullet Diam. C.O.L. Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure Grs. Vel. (ft/s) Pressure
325 GR. BTB LFN GC IMR IMR 4227 .430" 1.730" 17.0 1041 19,200 CUP 21.0C 1278 34,200 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Winchester 296 .430" 1.730" 20.0 1264 30,800 CUP 22.0 1368 38,100 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon H110 .430" 1.730" 20.0 1264 30,800 CUP 22.0 1368 38,100 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon Lil'Gun .430" 1.730" 17.0 1217 29,400 CUP 20.0 1360 38,600 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon Longshot .430" 1.730" 10.0 1069 28,500 CUP 11.8 1195 38,700 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon HS-6 .430" 1.730" 13.0 1155 33,200 CUP 14.0 1218 38,000 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Winchester AutoComp .430" 1.730" 9.0 1008 26,100 PSI 10.0 1075 30,900 PSI
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon Universal .430" 1.730" 8.0 942 27,700 CUP 10.0 1090 38,000 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Winchester 231 .430" 1.730" 9.0 1035 32,100 CUP 10.3 1125 38,700 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon HP-38 .430" 1.730" 9.0 1035 32,100 CUP 10.3 1125 38,700 CUP
325 GR. BTB LFN GC Hodgdon Titegroup .430" 1.730" 8.0 1001 28,700 CUP 9.2 1091 38,300 CUP
 
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I was really wanting to use 2400. The only powder on that list that I have is universal and by the looks of that data the performance seems a little low. If I were to buy another powder, which Im trying to avoid it would be 296/h110. Certainly 2400 can be used for this bullet?
 
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I forget who said it, but the quote was something along these lines "You can get one powder to do a lot of things with mediocrity"

H110 costs about $18/lb and you can load about 350 rounds for that, I thought the same thing as you and have reserved H110 for the heavy jacketed loads. I shoot cast 240's over 12.5gr of Unique for practice. I'm thinking about dropping that down to 11.5gr just to mitigate the recoil some.
 
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H110/W296. Nothing else will compare. I used to load and shoot hundreds of 44 mag rounds with everything from 240 to 310 gr bullets. You can use slower powders for plinking, but if you want to shoot this bullet for hunting/wilderness defense, use a powder that is tested, tried, and proven; H110.

It's not a Cast Performance unless they've switched molds. It looks a lot like the bullets made in Buffalo Bore ammo.
 
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I use them as well in a 20" rifle with a can. OK bullet for subsonic, would be a great subsonic if it was softer. H110 will get her humming, depending how your OAL has to be.

If you cast, Lyman has a 300gr mold that throws a great soft wheel weight bullet that is the tits for subsonic because, it grows large when it hit's.
 
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I know I know I...just the thought of another powder on the shelf especially when I have 4lbs of 2400. I drove past the gun store today and actually considered it. I really do like the 2400 with 240 grain jhp's. I think before I do buy h110/296 I am going to do some testing with 2400. One thing that bothers me is that alliant list 19.0 grains of 2400 for a 300 grain bullet but gives no minimum or indication of pressure just 1,088 fps. & 19.0 seems high considering thats what I load my 240 grain rainier hp?
 
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Hey shane do you use magnum primers? I use winchester "for magnum or standard loads" (thats what it says on the box) but I heard H110 needs a magnum?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rweaver</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hey shane do you use magnum primers? I use winchester "for magnum or standard loads" (thats what it says on the box) but I heard H110 needs a magnum? </div></div>

I've used both and not had any issues. Since the 2 rounds that I load with LP's are a 10mm and the 44mag I have since consolidated to just shooting mag primers and working a load up for it.

The H110 shot fine with both primers.
 
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I'm using standard Remington 2 1/2 large pistol primers. They seem to work fine.

Usually I use CCI, but during the shortage, I took what I could find.
 
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Bite the bullet and buy a pound of H110 or Lil' Gun both powders work great in my 44's and also in my 500 Smith. The heavier bullets like those powders. You will probably be more pleased with the results.

Michael T.
 
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well couldnt get H110 at the local shop so i settled for W296 which is the same thing or am i opening another argument?
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SA_Friday</div><div class="ubbcode-body">H110/W296. Nothing else will compare. I used to load and shoot hundreds of 44 mag rounds with everything from 240 to 310 gr bullets. You can use slower powders for plinking, but if you want to shoot this bullet for hunting/wilderness defense, use a powder that is tested, tried, and proven; H110.

It's not a Cast Performance unless they've switched molds. It looks a lot like the bullets made in Buffalo Bore ammo. </div></div>

IMO N110 compares favorably. Great velocity and accuracy and very clean burning and doesn't need a magnum primer.
 
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ok anyone with data or experience for this bullet and H110 powder? Ive got a taurus raging bull with a 6 1/2 inch barrel. Ive seen the data for the 325g BTB LFN GC 20.0 to 22.0. MontanaMarine's load of 20.5 seems to be a good start unless I should start higher considering lighter bullets need more powder to push em?
 
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tried 5 rounds at 21.0 stout but no pain. primers flattened but not hard to eject will try 21.5
 
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fired 3 rounds at 21.5 very stout, a little sticky extracting & cylinder marks on the brass. primer flattened but looked same as 21.0 load.
2 rounds at 22.0 (max) was very stout same sticky extracting and cylinder marks but primers looked close to being pierced, not cratered though.
Since I only have 50 -10 bullets remaining 21.5 is where I feel comfortable. My only other cause for concern would be outside temperature as it is only 40 deg out.
 
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2 on right 22.0 grains of w296
standing and two on left 21.5 grains
Its hard to tell but the primers on the right are deeper
 
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