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$500 40X

Papagallos

Papagallos

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#1
Hello,

<span style="color: #FF0000">UPDATED with 100 yard 5 shot group, 1-8-2012. </span>

<span style="color: #FF0000">UPDATED with 100 yard Benchrest Competition results, 10/23/2011. </span>

<span style="color: #FF0000">UPDATED with OCW range pics. Scroll further down the thread. 10/16/2011</span>

I just got back from shooting at the ranch with my uncle. He had been talking about a rifle he hadn't shot and which he bought from a guy for $500. It turns out it's a Remington 40X, .220 Swift with a heavy varmint contour stainless steel barrel. We fed it Hornady .40 grain moly coated bullets. What an outstanding rifle. Simply stated, it shot like a house on fire. Groups were consistently tiny. Bullets holes on top of bullet holes. In all, I had a ton of fun shooting it. Considering the price, things turned out to be cheap fun. And to top things off he said, "Keep it and enjoy it." Wow!!!!!!!!!
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I'll be doing some research on the make of the barrel, barrel twist, etc. Here are a few pics that I took of it after I got home. By the way, the scope was added by my uncle, it wasn't included with the rifle. I'm thinking about replacing it with a scope more in tune with the rifle.

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#5
Re: $500 40X

Nice rifle! I wish I could stumble across a nice 40X like that sometime. Anyway, the triangular stamp is a magnaflux proof mark, the REP stands for Remington Peters and is Remington's old brand marking, and the 58 are test proofs.
 
#8
Re: $500 40X

Thanks. I was going to do some work on the stock this morning but I decided not to. Basically, my plan was to strip the stock and refinish it in a dark walnut stain. But then I figured I'd ruin its originality. I think I'll just leave it as it is.
 
#10
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">REP stands for Remington English Proof. R-P stands for Remington Peters.</div></div>

You mean that doesn't mean 'Remington Engineering'? What a let down.

Nice rifle BTW. What's wrong with the scope?
 
#12
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">REP stands for Remington English Proof. R-P stands for Remington Peters. </div></div>

Sure about that? I've only seen R-P on old brass and the REP mark on much older rifles.
 
#13
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: XxMerlinxX</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">REP stands for Remington English Proof. R-P stands for Remington Peters. </div></div>

Sure about that? I've only seen R-P on old brass and the REP mark on much older rifles. </div></div>

I discovered this too last night. But it also stands for Royal English Proof.
 
#14
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trigger Monkey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">REP stands for Remington English Proof. R-P stands for Remington Peters.</div></div>

You mean that doesn't mean 'Remington Engineering'? What a let down.

Nice rifle BTW. What's wrong with the scope? </div></div>

The Leupold VX-3 isn't too bad for its purpose, but I want more power and clarity. My 34 year old aging eyes are yearning for a NF.
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#18
Re: $500 40X

Great looking rifle !
I'd leave the stock original and if you feel you want something different just buy something new, that way if you decide to sell it down the road you'll still have the original unmolested stock for it.
 
#20
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Sunnyside Scott</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice rifle, Your Uncle should be your new Favorite Uncle.
There is nothing wrong with scope that is on there, spend your money on reloading supplies and get out there and shoot the shit out of it.
Enjoy, SScott </div></div>

Thank you. Yeah, he's awesome.
 
#21
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stonewall2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW !!

That is a fine rifle to own-shoot with a great story.
The condition is excellent.
Post some targets when you go shooting.

Use a Lucas bore guide with proper cleaning rods please.

Enjoy.

Glenn


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I should've taken pictures yesterday of the groups it was printing out to 115 yards. I never thought about keeping the target either, especially since I know it will shoot like that again and again. Today wasn't a good day to go shooting. It's been very, very windy. I'll get pics up soon though.
 
#22
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Great looking rifle !
I'd leave the stock original and if you feel you want something different just buy something new, that way if you decide to sell it down the road you'll still have the original unmolested stock for it. </div></div>

I agree. I'm still trying to figure out what was on the recessed portion of the stock's forend. My Google Fu skills are weak.
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#23
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Get Hard Art</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Wow, that's a friggin' steal for $500. In your case, that's a friggin' steal for FREE. Pretty cool to own something from Remington Custom Shop, cherish her. </div></div>

I know what you mean. It's unfortunate for the guy that needed the money to make ends meet. My uncle feels guilty, in a way, that he only gave him $500 for it.
 
#24
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagallos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stonewall2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW !!

That is a fine rifle to own-shoot with a great story.
The condition is excellent.
Post some targets when you go shooting.

Use a Lucas bore guide with proper cleaning rods please.

Enjoy.

Glenn


</div></div>

I should've taken pictures yesterday of the groups it was printing out to 115 yards. I never thought about keeping the target either, especially since I know it will shoot like that again and again. Today wasn't a good day to go shooting. It's been very, very windy. I get pics up soon though. </div></div>

You'll feel that way untill you gotta buy a new barrel for it. Those Swifts sure are fun though. Oh, and BTW, you don't usually get to set one back. That's how far down the barrel the erosion goes....
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#25
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagallos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Stonewall2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">WOW !!

That is a fine rifle to own-shoot with a great story.
The condition is excellent.
Post some targets when you go shooting.

Use a Lucas bore guide with proper cleaning rods please.

Enjoy.

Glenn


</div></div>

I should've taken pictures yesterday of the groups it was printing out to 115 yards. I never thought about keeping the target either, especially since I know it will shoot like that again and again. Today wasn't a good day to go shooting. It's been very, very windy. I get pics up soon though. </div></div>

You'll feel that way untill you gotta buy a new barrel for it. Those Swifts sure are fun though. Oh, and BTW, you don't usually get to set one back. That's how far down the barrel the erosion goes....
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Are you serious? Wow. Well, I'm planning on reloading Hornady V-Max 55 grain moly bullets and push them at less than 3,800fps. Maybe this will increase the barrel life by 50 rounds.
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#29
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The recess looks like its for a hand stop rail like this.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=249160204#PIC

And then you can add the hand stop.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=249796208

Here's a picture with everything attached
http://rifleparts.org/remington-40x-rifle-stock-with-buttplate-and-hand-stop

My Google Fu skills are pretty strong
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Yes, Master. Your Google Fu skills are rivaled by none. Then I seek the purpose of the forend holes. What purpose are of they?
 
#32
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe their for barrel tuning seen here.
http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=3108

Here's what the adjusting screws look like
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239857002

Another thread with info
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=46478

Now if I could only figure out how to make money with Master Google Fu lol.

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So, since this practice of yesteryear this goes against modern thinking, why do it?

I mean simply this kind of thinking was still the norm in the late 50's/early 60's firearms. We have since found out, that completely free floating a near perfect barrel is what gives the best accuracy, not necessarily harmonically 'dampening' it.

I know this is an older system so 'splain why you would do it in today's shooting world? Other than it's there and can be historically duplicated, which would be a cool thing in and of itself.
 
#33
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe their for barrel tuning seen here.
http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=3108

Here's what the adjusting screws look like
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239857002

Another thread with info
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=46478

Now if I could only figure out how to make money with Master Google Fu lol.
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Thanks. I had found it as well.

Sincerely, Young Grasshopper
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#34
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe their for barrel tuning seen here.
http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=3108

Here's what the adjusting screws look like
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239857002

Another thread with info
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=46478

Now if I could only figure out how to make money with Master Google Fu lol.

</div></div>

So, since this practice of yesteryear this goes against modern thinking, why do it?

I mean simply this kind of thinking was still the norm in the late 50's/early 60's firearms. We have since found out, that completely free floating a near perfect barrel is what gives the best accuracy, not necessarily harmonically 'dampening' it.

I know this is an older system so 'splain why you would do it in today's shooting world? Other than it's there and can be historically duplicated, which would be a cool thing in and of itself. </div></div>

Well, even though I don't have the hardware to tune the barrel,this rifle can shoot big time. I ran a dollar bill all the way to the receiver. The barrel is generously free floated. Maybe that, among other variables, explains the superb accuracy?
 
#35
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagallos</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: sandwarrior</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I believe their for barrel tuning seen here.
http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=3108

Here's what the adjusting screws look like
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=239857002

Another thread with info
http://forums.thecmp.org/showthread.php?t=46478

Now if I could only figure out how to make money with Master Google Fu lol.

</div></div>

So, since this practice of yesteryear this goes against modern thinking, why do it?

I mean simply this kind of thinking was still the norm in the late 50's/early 60's firearms. We have since found out, that completely free floating a near perfect barrel is what gives the best accuracy, not necessarily harmonically 'dampening' it.

I know this is an older system so 'splain why you would do it in today's shooting world? Other than it's there and can be historically duplicated, which would be a cool thing in and of itself. </div></div>

Well, even though I don't have the hardware to tune the barrel,this rifle can shoot big time. I ran a dollar bill all the way to the receiver. The barrel is generously free floated. Maybe that, among other variables, explains the superb accuracy? </div></div>

I would say yes. No need to mess with it. Or, as the real saying goes, "Don' fix what ain't broke."

Good luck with this rifle. No doubt it will be a pleasure to shoot.
 
#36
Re: $500 40X

My thoughts are, If you don't reload and are stuck using one factory load, it is advantageous to be able to tune the rifle to the load. Similar to using a bughole tuner on a .22.
 
#37
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hdbiker1</div><div class="ubbcode-body">My thoughts are, If you don't reload and are stuck using one factory load, it is advantageous to be able to tune the rifle to the load. Similar to using a bughole tuner on a .22. </div></div>

I know. I was thinking about that earlier today. The rifle shot amazingly well with factory Hornady 40 grain V-Max moly ammunition, even without the tuners. What's not to love about factory ammo that's so accurate out of it, right? However, I cringe at the fact that the muzzle velocity of this super burner is recorded on the box as 4,200 fps. Wow! This is where reloading comes into play. Saving some barrel life by running slow, less hot rounds is my goal. MidwayUSA has Hornady V-Max 55 grain bullets that I plan on pushing at less than 3,800 fps. Accuracy is my goal as well and I just hope that I'll be able to develop a load that will shoot just as good if not better than the factory ammo. We'll see how things turn out.
 
#38
Re: $500 40X

Shooters,

After weeks going by I finally had a chance to take the Swift out for some OCW load tests. Needless to say I was very impressed with the results. The Swift definitely shoots lights out with factory Hornady 40grain V-Max, but as I stated in my previous posts I wanted to load and shoot Hornady 55grain V-Max at slower velocities to extend barrel life. I can't stop smiling. Enjoy the pics.
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#42
Re: $500 40X

Well, I just returned from participating in my first ever shooting competition of any kind. Using my .220 40X, I decided to go up against the local veteran shooters in the 100 yard Benchrest Competition. I shot against 5 other competitors. Two of them pulled-out of the competition at the last minute. Great, I thought, since I figured it was better to take a beating from five shooters instead of seven.
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The calibers used by the different shooters included rifles chambered in 6PPC, 7mm-08 (2 Shooters), .260 Remington and .223 Remington.

Results:

1. 6PPC, 248/250
2. .223 Remington, 247/250
3. .260 Remington, 244/250
4. Me, 235/250
5. 7mm-08, ?
6. 7mm-08, ?

Here are pics of my 5-5 shot groups, totaling 235/250 points.

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In the end, I didn't win but I did gain an appreciation for benchrest competition. The wind was a killer today. The three o'clock crosswind was brutal. Damn wind basically played with us too much.
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I found myself constantly adjusting to the erratic speed/wind gusts of the crosswind.

If I had to list what I learned today, it would be this:

1. Relax, relax and relax, have fun. My heart was racing with excitement.

2. Learn to read the wind.

3. Learn to read the wind.

4. Learn to read the wind.

5. Exercise better trigger control under time limits.

6. A max 14x power scope won't cut it for this type of shooting. Everyone used a scope with at least 20x power.

7. Exercise proper focus technique? I kept loosing focus of the reticle while I was on target.

Any comments/suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for looking.

 
#45
Re: $500 40X

This might be a completely stupid question, but i'm a bit of a newbie with bolt guns. What is the difference between a standard 700 and a 40x. There is an identical rifle to the one in this thread for sale at a local gun store for a grand, just wondering if its worth taking a look. Thanks in advance.
 
#47
Re: $500 40X

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Papagallos</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Try this:

http://www.snipershide.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1634646 </div></div>

With all the bickering in that post its about as clear as mud
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, but thanks.

Answer me this: if you gave someone very knowledgeable a 40x and a 700 and put a blind fold on him could he tell a difference, or is it just a better machined/crafted 700 action with a better quality barrel?
 
#48
Re: $500 40X

Someone very knowledgeable with both actions should be able to tell the difference by physically manipulating them. Other than the 40X action being a single shot, I really can't feel the difference between the 700 and the 40X. But that's just me.
 
#49
Re: $500 40X

My Dad runs 36.0 grains of IMR4064 under a 50 grain V-Max in his .220 swift . I don't know how many rounds are down the tube but it is well over 3000 and still shooting great . Its an absolutely devastating rifle on the local Ground Squirrels . We try to see how High we can make them fly
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#50
Re: $500 40X

A 40x is a Custom Shop gun. Usually has a heavy barrel and all of the ones that I've owned have been extremely accurate. They retail in the $3000 range but generally go for $1500 or less in the "used" market... Depending on caliber and configuration. The single-shot target models bring less. The Tactical models bring more.
 
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