6mm remington
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Big 6mm fan here. I have an old left handed remington 788 in 6mm that I love to shoot. Am in the process of doing a little work on it to make it even better. I have killed a lot of deer with this rifle.
Big 6mm fan here. I have an old left handed remington 788 in 6mm that I love to shoot. Am in the process of doing a little work on it to make it even better. I have killed a lot of deer with this rifle.
Re: 6mm remington
The 6MM Rem is a little cramped for space in a standard magazine. In a custom action with long mag box it works fine. Also Lapua doesn't make 6MM Rem brass.
The 6MM Rem is a little cramped for space in a standard magazine. In a custom action with long mag box it works fine. Also Lapua doesn't make 6MM Rem brass.
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My father has a remington 600 and old norma 205 powder.He has loads with the old style 95 grain nosler partition at 3200 fps +,105 grain barnes original at over 3100.Barnes 95 grain x and 115 rn original.I have seen him shoot many whitetail with this rifle and it wrecks them.
My father has a remington 600 and old norma 205 powder.He has loads with the old style 95 grain nosler partition at 3200 fps +,105 grain barnes original at over 3100.Barnes 95 grain x and 115 rn original.I have seen him shoot many whitetail with this rifle and it wrecks them.
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I shot the 6XC for years as it used a significantly LESS amount of powder than the .243, and hence, the 6mm Remington. Barrel life was a major concern to me at that time.
Nowadays, with the excellent 6.5x47 Lapua brass being available to neck down to 6mm, the average comp shooter can get a longer barrel life and excellent performance using much smaller cases than the long 6mm Remington.
Is the 6-6.5x47 in the same league as the 6mm Remington when it comes to being a laser beam? No, but it is still an outstandingly reliable and accurate cartridge offering better barrel life.
I shot the 6XC for years as it used a significantly LESS amount of powder than the .243, and hence, the 6mm Remington. Barrel life was a major concern to me at that time.
Nowadays, with the excellent 6.5x47 Lapua brass being available to neck down to 6mm, the average comp shooter can get a longer barrel life and excellent performance using much smaller cases than the long 6mm Remington.
Is the 6-6.5x47 in the same league as the 6mm Remington when it comes to being a laser beam? No, but it is still an outstandingly reliable and accurate cartridge offering better barrel life.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 350 Kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mr. Tooley is lapua brass that good.Is the case head harder that it let's you load to higher pressure without stretching primer pockets? </div></div>
Here's the sequence of questions I ask a customer in order of importance when discussing a build.
1. pick a bullet and how fast do you want to shoot it?
2. Pick the best quality brass available to achieve #1 I probaly already have a reamer that will work so forget
about me ordering a new reamer just to satisfy some idea you got from some on line forum.
3. then let's talk about the rifle and how you're going to use.
But back to your question yes the Lapua brass is tougher and better quality/uniformity. That's not to say load it hotter but it will last longer.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 350 Kid</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Mr. Tooley is lapua brass that good.Is the case head harder that it let's you load to higher pressure without stretching primer pockets? </div></div>
Here's the sequence of questions I ask a customer in order of importance when discussing a build.
1. pick a bullet and how fast do you want to shoot it?
2. Pick the best quality brass available to achieve #1 I probaly already have a reamer that will work so forget
about me ordering a new reamer just to satisfy some idea you got from some on line forum.
3. then let's talk about the rifle and how you're going to use.
But back to your question yes the Lapua brass is tougher and better quality/uniformity. That's not to say load it hotter but it will last longer.
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I have basically been running a 6mm with 115's all summer. Those are fire formed after I touch them off, but still they are 6mm to begin with.
I run the Badger DM or similar and run Accurate Mags that allow for a round set up for 2.960" OAL.
The Accurate Mags (300WSM version) has no binder plate but must have the feed lips massaged to hold the round.
The actions will need the feed ramp relieved so the bullet tip will not crash with the feed ramp.
I have basically been running a 6mm with 115's all summer. Those are fire formed after I touch them off, but still they are 6mm to begin with.
I run the Badger DM or similar and run Accurate Mags that allow for a round set up for 2.960" OAL.
The Accurate Mags (300WSM version) has no binder plate but must have the feed lips massaged to hold the round.
The actions will need the feed ramp relieved so the bullet tip will not crash with the feed ramp.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voracious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much extra magbox space is needed in your opinion,to defray the 6mm's added case length,as per high BC projectiles in a S/A? </div></div>
What kind of mag setup are you thinking about? DM's limit what you can do. Running a standard Rem box style you can get up to,I think .190" more with a custom made box. Wyatt outdoors makes a box that gives .110" which doesn't sound like much but helps a lot.
One more thing. Reamer designe plays an important role.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voracious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much extra magbox space is needed in your opinion,to defray the 6mm's added case length,as per high BC projectiles in a S/A? </div></div>
What kind of mag setup are you thinking about? DM's limit what you can do. Running a standard Rem box style you can get up to,I think .190" more with a custom made box. Wyatt outdoors makes a box that gives .110" which doesn't sound like much but helps a lot.
One more thing. Reamer designe plays an important role.
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350.
Those rounds have nothing on 6 Rem. Some will argue xc is more accurate. I will argue the shooter is more accurate. It isn't the arrow. It's the Indian. I might be wrong.
Magazine dimensions: In a short action, load reasonable bullets and proper lengths using comparable propellants and reasonable charges. Alternatively, build your gun on a long action using a barrel with a fast twist, firing heavy, long bullets, tweaking magazine lips to poise the round for feeding and quit worrying about cramped mag space. I say get out of the box and away from those are can't get out of the box.
Running a long action? What's the big deal? Somebody tell me. As that goofy Ross Perot said once, "I'm all ears"
350.
Those rounds have nothing on 6 Rem. Some will argue xc is more accurate. I will argue the shooter is more accurate. It isn't the arrow. It's the Indian. I might be wrong.
Magazine dimensions: In a short action, load reasonable bullets and proper lengths using comparable propellants and reasonable charges. Alternatively, build your gun on a long action using a barrel with a fast twist, firing heavy, long bullets, tweaking magazine lips to poise the round for feeding and quit worrying about cramped mag space. I say get out of the box and away from those are can't get out of the box.
Running a long action? What's the big deal? Somebody tell me. As that goofy Ross Perot said once, "I'm all ears"
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Another option is to simply run a T3 action.
This is a T3 6mm Rem with a Lilja tube. Topped with a 4.5-14 Leupold with an M1 elevation turret. It is my idea for an all around rifle for coyotes where the shots can be long, but so can the hikes beween sets. Wind is always a factor to consider as well.
The 5 round detachable box single stack mags have proven to be quite sturdy in my other Tikkas. I know many bash them for being plastic, but so are my Glock mags. I have never had a single issue with the Tikka mags.
The Tikka/Sakos make a lot of sense as a custom platform.
Another option is to simply run a T3 action.
This is a T3 6mm Rem with a Lilja tube. Topped with a 4.5-14 Leupold with an M1 elevation turret. It is my idea for an all around rifle for coyotes where the shots can be long, but so can the hikes beween sets. Wind is always a factor to consider as well.
The 5 round detachable box single stack mags have proven to be quite sturdy in my other Tikkas. I know many bash them for being plastic, but so are my Glock mags. I have never had a single issue with the Tikka mags.
The Tikka/Sakos make a lot of sense as a custom platform.
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This coyote was not a fan of the 6mm Remington cartridge out of an old Remington 788. An 85 grain Sierra HP GameKing hit him like a lightning bolt.
You can see a piece of meat hanging in the sagebrush,
straight up from his hind legs. He went nowhere.
The 6mm seems to have that effect.
This coyote was not a fan of the 6mm Remington cartridge out of an old Remington 788. An 85 grain Sierra HP GameKing hit him like a lightning bolt.
You can see a piece of meat hanging in the sagebrush,
straight up from his hind legs. He went nowhere.
The 6mm seems to have that effect.
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Very nice Mackay Sagebrush.I have a remington 722 that was my grandfathers.I had a hart 1 in 10 twist barrel chambered in 6mm ackley improved put on cut to 22 inches.I could have a longer mag put in but with the speeds i get i don't see the need.I don't care how deep you have to seat the bullets in a 6mm ,it will beat the 243 in velocity all day. I reload the 243 for friends of mine that found out it killed deer just as good as their 30/06. As far as barrel life my 722 was originally a 244 and when it was shot out my dad told me they figured between 8 and 9 thousand rounds had been fired.I guess it's different if your shooting matches and getting them hot.
Very nice Mackay Sagebrush.I have a remington 722 that was my grandfathers.I had a hart 1 in 10 twist barrel chambered in 6mm ackley improved put on cut to 22 inches.I could have a longer mag put in but with the speeds i get i don't see the need.I don't care how deep you have to seat the bullets in a 6mm ,it will beat the 243 in velocity all day. I reload the 243 for friends of mine that found out it killed deer just as good as their 30/06. As far as barrel life my 722 was originally a 244 and when it was shot out my dad told me they figured between 8 and 9 thousand rounds had been fired.I guess it's different if your shooting matches and getting them hot.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voracious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much extra magbox space is needed in your opinion,to defray the 6mm's added case length,as per high BC projectiles in a S/A? </div></div>
What kind of mag setup are you thinking about? DM's limit what you can do. Running a standard Rem box style you can get up to,I think .190" more with a custom made box. Wyatt outdoors makes a box that gives .110" which doesn't sound like much but helps a lot.
One more thing. Reamer designe plays an important role. </div></div>
Both will easily crowd 3". The .190" latitude difference between a 243 and 6mm in case length is a deal breaker for most and I was curious how you skirt same?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dave Tooley</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Voracious</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How much extra magbox space is needed in your opinion,to defray the 6mm's added case length,as per high BC projectiles in a S/A? </div></div>
What kind of mag setup are you thinking about? DM's limit what you can do. Running a standard Rem box style you can get up to,I think .190" more with a custom made box. Wyatt outdoors makes a box that gives .110" which doesn't sound like much but helps a lot.
One more thing. Reamer designe plays an important role. </div></div>
Both will easily crowd 3". The .190" latitude difference between a 243 and 6mm in case length is a deal breaker for most and I was curious how you skirt same?
Re: 6mm remington
Absolutely nothing wrong with the 6mm. I went the route of 6x47L mainly to use Lapua brass and it fits in a SA better with the long VLD's.
Absolutely nothing wrong with the 6mm. I went the route of 6x47L mainly to use Lapua brass and it fits in a SA better with the long VLD's.
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Love the Cartridge. I used my Dad's Herter's U-9 rifle in 6mm. growing up topped with a Lupy Vari-XII 3x9.
Killed dang near everything on our ranch with that rifle , it was a Jackrabbit & Coyotes nightmare .
Love the Cartridge. I used my Dad's Herter's U-9 rifle in 6mm. growing up topped with a Lupy Vari-XII 3x9.
Killed dang near everything on our ranch with that rifle , it was a Jackrabbit & Coyotes nightmare .
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I shoot a 700, Shilen bbl, H-S stock in 6mm Rem AI for LR varmint hunting. I run 87 V-Maxes and 105 gr A-Maxes. Its a great performer. The Rem brass does me fine and lasts several firings with reasonable loads. I toasted a couple pockets trying to go fast as I could with 105s. If poor brass is a major concern, neck down 7x57 NORMA.
I shoot a 700, Shilen bbl, H-S stock in 6mm Rem AI for LR varmint hunting. I run 87 V-Maxes and 105 gr A-Maxes. Its a great performer. The Rem brass does me fine and lasts several firings with reasonable loads. I toasted a couple pockets trying to go fast as I could with 105s. If poor brass is a major concern, neck down 7x57 NORMA.
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Well there ya' go, brass snobs; Norma has you covered even for 6 Rem, if he's right.
You know. I've done quite a bit of shooting, I think, and I don't believe I've ever worn out a case whether is was Lapua, Lake City, or Winchester. Perhaps I'm not shooting full auto?
Say you buy two hundred cases of "Simpson tuff-ass brass" cases. Load them with safe charges 5 times. That would mean you fire your rifle 1000 times. A few of my shooting friends shoot 1000 rounds in a year. One shoots that many in 6 months. One shoots that much in 3 months. They are both voracious competitors and can afford Lapua but they probably throw even them away after 5 firings. Winchester, Nosler, Norma.........even Remington isn't awful if its sorted and preped properly.
Lapua IS fine brass. No better than most folks shoot..... The Lapua brass horse is dead. Stop beating this poor, dead, rotten horse. It even has vultures on it. The hyenas are gone.
Well there ya' go, brass snobs; Norma has you covered even for 6 Rem, if he's right.
You know. I've done quite a bit of shooting, I think, and I don't believe I've ever worn out a case whether is was Lapua, Lake City, or Winchester. Perhaps I'm not shooting full auto?
Say you buy two hundred cases of "Simpson tuff-ass brass" cases. Load them with safe charges 5 times. That would mean you fire your rifle 1000 times. A few of my shooting friends shoot 1000 rounds in a year. One shoots that many in 6 months. One shoots that much in 3 months. They are both voracious competitors and can afford Lapua but they probably throw even them away after 5 firings. Winchester, Nosler, Norma.........even Remington isn't awful if its sorted and preped properly.
Lapua IS fine brass. No better than most folks shoot..... The Lapua brass horse is dead. Stop beating this poor, dead, rotten horse. It even has vultures on it. The hyenas are gone.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 700, Shilen bbl, H-S stock in 6mm Rem AI for LR varmint hunting. I run 87 V-Maxes and 105 gr A-Maxes. Its a great performer. The Rem brass does me fine and lasts several firings with reasonable loads. I toasted a couple pockets trying to go fast as I could with 105s. If poor brass is a major concern, neck down 7x57 NORMA. </div></div>
What COAL with the 105's and at what speed?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tylerw02</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I shoot a 700, Shilen bbl, H-S stock in 6mm Rem AI for LR varmint hunting. I run 87 V-Maxes and 105 gr A-Maxes. Its a great performer. The Rem brass does me fine and lasts several firings with reasonable loads. I toasted a couple pockets trying to go fast as I could with 105s. If poor brass is a major concern, neck down 7x57 NORMA. </div></div>
What COAL with the 105's and at what speed?
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Awesome.What powder are you shooting with the 105'S?The heaviest i have worked loads for are 95 Berger vld and 95 Nosler/Wichester ballistic tip.Rl 22 with the Berger ang Rl 19 with the bt.I think i could do better velocity wise.I load Imr 4350 with the old style Remington 80 grain hp and Hornady 87 grain bthp.
Awesome.What powder are you shooting with the 105'S?The heaviest i have worked loads for are 95 Berger vld and 95 Nosler/Wichester ballistic tip.Rl 22 with the Berger ang Rl 19 with the bt.I think i could do better velocity wise.I load Imr 4350 with the old style Remington 80 grain hp and Hornady 87 grain bthp.
