700 actions
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I have two stock Remington actions that I set up as Remages. Neither were trued, but both shoot really well.
In my expiration, screwing on a quality pipe will have one of the largest positive impacts on accuracy. Trueing helps if you’re trying to wring out the last little bit of accuracy potential, but not always required.
In my expiration, screwing on a quality pipe will have one of the largest positive impacts on accuracy. Trueing helps if you’re trying to wring out the last little bit of accuracy potential, but not always required.
Unless you're wanting to go for world records and/or spend all of your time chasing tiny groups on paper, most of the time no. The ONLY reason I'd blueprint a M700 is if I already owned it AND it was only making contact on 1 lug. If it's making contact on both lugs (even if it's not 100%), I wouldn't even mess with it. Spin up a quality barrel and you're going to have a shooter.
Having the bolt handle timed can be a worthwhile endeavor, especially if primary extraction is weak/nonexistant, and opening up the scope base holes is not a horrible idea, either. Otherwise, I'd leave it, or upgrade to a Tikka T3 or one of the custom offerings (Origin, Nucleus, etc..)
Having the bolt handle timed can be a worthwhile endeavor, especially if primary extraction is weak/nonexistant, and opening up the scope base holes is not a horrible idea, either. Otherwise, I'd leave it, or upgrade to a Tikka T3 or one of the custom offerings (Origin, Nucleus, etc..)
I too have a Remington 700 LA that's stock with factory barrel. I'm wondering if continuing to spend money on it is worth it vs just selling it and going with a Tikka T3x setup would be best. Gunsmithing costs are pretty steep and certainly would point to going Tikka or even Custom if you're into it. I have to get it back to the range with new glass to see what mine can really do but the last time out wasn't very impressive. 1.5-2 MOA with a hot sporter barrel and factory match ammo. To get a Bartlein, install and truing done, I'd be sitting at the price of a new Tikka CTR, which I could drop into a KRG and go shoot.
i think most shooters arent good enough to notice those small details with that kind of smith work. With a gun capable, if you can knock a hole through a hole in a 10 shot string, 100% of the time and then you get a new gun, then yeah. Get all the little details squared. Torque specs, truing...all of it. I can't shoot a hole through a hole on a 10 shot string any and everyday of the week 100% of the time...so im good with just sub moa.
Are you the type that has a few rifles and keeps them forever? If so get it trued. If you trade every other month then except for added value it may not be worth it. Now with that said what if it doesn't live up to expectations? There's something to be said about peace of mind.
I say do it and put the best glass that you can afford on it. There is something to be said about peace of mind. When the shot is thrown or missed you wont wonder if it was you or the rifle. I say its worth regardless if you are just starting down this road or have been on it for a while.
I bought a rem 243win adl cheap for the action.
It shot ok with the cheap ass stock so I decided to make it a hunting rifle and put a 100 dollar laminated thumbhole stock on it and it shoots half inch groups.
I think it's probably a lucky coensidense but it shows that you don't have to blueprint sometimes.
It shot ok with the cheap ass stock so I decided to make it a hunting rifle and put a 100 dollar laminated thumbhole stock on it and it shoots half inch groups.
I think it's probably a lucky coensidense but it shows that you don't have to blueprint sometimes.
Sorry, if the rifle is already the caliber/configuration you want it in I'd shoot it and see how it does first. If you're wanting a different caliber, try a barrel first. I personally prefer barrel nuts/Remage just because a lot of good options are on the shelf and it's sooooo easy to do at home (seriously if you can't understand how to screw on a barrel with a barrel nut and headspace it correctly you shouldn't own guns).
I don't use barrel nuts and headspace gauges, should I sell all my shit I've been shooting and become a snowflake? Just because you prefer nuts doesn't matter for those that don't .
No, don't sell your stuff if you're happy with it! But sounds like you might already be a snowflake...my post indicated that I preferred them and the ease with which they are to DIY. Now unbunch your panties, take a deep breath, crack a beer, and read some other cool stuff on the forum.
Your post indicated that folks who don't DIY their barrel swaps shouldn't own guns . Keep backpedaling as I enjoy my beer .
Here's what my post said:
Again, never said if you don't use barrels nuts you shouldn't be able to own guns, just said if you couldn't understand how to use them. It was meant to indicate that if you weren't intelligent enough to understand how to do it you probably weren't intelligent enough to be competent with firearms, or with anything else, you know like reading and comprehending and stuff, man. And I stand by that statement. I prefer barrel nuts for barrel changes because they're super easy. Not back pedaling even a bit.
I’m not a gunsmith and I can’t speak for all Remington 700s.
My gunsmith has shown me 15-20 bad Remington barrels and maybe 2 actions that needed some attention.
I 100% believe quality barrel>trueing the action will do more in the accuracy department than the vast majority of 700 shooters are capable of.
A few of my 700s that I had complaints about needed some action attention but shot well. They just fed, extracted and locked up like crap.
But There is a reason TacOps and GAP Remington 700s shoot like they do. Does every 700 shooter need it? Probably not.
I don’t know what the going rate is for a blueprinted/trued 700 is. If we’re getting into $800-$1200 with the cost of a 700 action. I’d rather have a Surgeon 591. If we're rebarreling a gun I already have, I’ll true a 700.
Edit: I wouldn’t break apart an MOA capable gun just to true an action.
My gunsmith has shown me 15-20 bad Remington barrels and maybe 2 actions that needed some attention.
I 100% believe quality barrel>trueing the action will do more in the accuracy department than the vast majority of 700 shooters are capable of.
A few of my 700s that I had complaints about needed some action attention but shot well. They just fed, extracted and locked up like crap.
But There is a reason TacOps and GAP Remington 700s shoot like they do. Does every 700 shooter need it? Probably not.
I don’t know what the going rate is for a blueprinted/trued 700 is. If we’re getting into $800-$1200 with the cost of a 700 action. I’d rather have a Surgeon 591. If we're rebarreling a gun I already have, I’ll true a 700.
Edit: I wouldn’t break apart an MOA capable gun just to true an action.
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