Range Report 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
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Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
I've decided this is going to be my next project. I've got a winchester 22-250 now with a 14 twist and plan on buying a pac-nor 3 groove 7 twist in the next few days. Going to keep it at 24" threaded for a can. I have no idea about terminal performance on game but I was expecting 3100fps with RL19. Not sure of the charge yet. It should keep up with most longrange setups with minimal recoil and less expense. I talked with berger about what twist to run and he responded "7". I was worried about overspinning them, if they blow I'll try the 75gr amax's. This will be a pure long range hunting rig so I won't be to worried about barrel heat and burnout. I hope someone can chime in with some experience.
I've decided this is going to be my next project. I've got a winchester 22-250 now with a 14 twist and plan on buying a pac-nor 3 groove 7 twist in the next few days. Going to keep it at 24" threaded for a can. I have no idea about terminal performance on game but I was expecting 3100fps with RL19. Not sure of the charge yet. It should keep up with most longrange setups with minimal recoil and less expense. I talked with berger about what twist to run and he responded "7". I was worried about overspinning them, if they blow I'll try the 75gr amax's. This will be a pure long range hunting rig so I won't be to worried about barrel heat and burnout. I hope someone can chime in with some experience.
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
I have a 7 twist 22-250 and run 80 amax bullets with Varget at 3200fps.
The 75's run well and are not over spun, but you really cant go below 70gr's
keep us updated I would be interested in that combo.
The 80gr Amax hammer deer here in TX and anything smaller will just pop like a balloon.
I have a 7 twist 22-250 and run 80 amax bullets with Varget at 3200fps.
The 75's run well and are not over spun, but you really cant go below 70gr's
keep us updated I would be interested in that combo.
The 80gr Amax hammer deer here in TX and anything smaller will just pop like a balloon.
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
There is a Rem. 700 varmint special 22-250 in the safe that is due for this conversion. I've seen them shoot and it is a heck of a combo. Even a .223 will push them 2650 which works well out to 1000.
There is a Rem. 700 varmint special 22-250 in the safe that is due for this conversion. I've seen them shoot and it is a heck of a combo. Even a .223 will push them 2650 which works well out to 1000.
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
Yea I am debating the same thing. Im thinking 90g bergers, or 75g amaxes. With the BC of the bergers and weight, i think it would be a good long range hunting round. Just wanted to get some feedback. Will a 1:7 twist overspin the 75g amaxs?
Yea I am debating the same thing. Im thinking 90g bergers, or 75g amaxes. With the BC of the bergers and weight, i think it would be a good long range hunting round. Just wanted to get some feedback. Will a 1:7 twist overspin the 75g amaxs?
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
7 twist doesn't over spin mine. I get a little under a 1/2" group with 80gr Amax bullets, and with the 75's its more like 3/4" at 100 but 300 and out to a 1K either are money!
80's at 2.5oal" w/ 33.5grns of Varget pops at 3190-3200
75's at 2.5oal" w/ 33.5grns of Varget pops at 3250-3275ish
7 twist doesn't over spin mine. I get a little under a 1/2" group with 80gr Amax bullets, and with the 75's its more like 3/4" at 100 but 300 and out to a 1K either are money!
80's at 2.5oal" w/ 33.5grns of Varget pops at 3190-3200
75's at 2.5oal" w/ 33.5grns of Varget pops at 3250-3275ish
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
If anybody has 90gr bergers and want's to try some 80's or 75's I'd trade 2 amax's per 1 Berger just shoot me a pm
If anybody has 90gr bergers and want's to try some 80's or 75's I'd trade 2 amax's per 1 Berger just shoot me a pm
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
thanks for the info. trying to decide on barrel contour now. I'm thinking light or medium palma, 24". I ordered some berger 90vld's to play around with seating depths so my smith can setup my chamber for into the lands. Looking forward to this one.
thanks for the info. trying to decide on barrel contour now. I'm thinking light or medium palma, 24". I ordered some berger 90vld's to play around with seating depths so my smith can setup my chamber for into the lands. Looking forward to this one.
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
Five years back I built up a 22 x 47 Lapua, the necked down 6.5 x 47 L case's capacity is just a little less than the 22-250. I put a 1-8" twist Brux HV profile barrel on it and the receiver was one of Stiller's early predators.
I found the combination to be deadly with Varget and 80 g JLK's, I understand that Varget is considered to be to fast for this application but damn did it work good, 31 grains gave me 3,100 fps and 32 g 3,200.
One more data point that is pretty close to the 22-250.
wade
Five years back I built up a 22 x 47 Lapua, the necked down 6.5 x 47 L case's capacity is just a little less than the 22-250. I put a 1-8" twist Brux HV profile barrel on it and the receiver was one of Stiller's early predators.
I found the combination to be deadly with Varget and 80 g JLK's, I understand that Varget is considered to be to fast for this application but damn did it work good, 31 grains gave me 3,100 fps and 32 g 3,200.
One more data point that is pretty close to the 22-250.
wade
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
It's really sounding like a go. Here is the response I got from Walt B. regarding this.
"Hi
We recommend a 1-7 twist for this bullet they have been shot in a 8 twist but we have also had failures in 8 twist barrels. You pick your barrel maker all of the major custom barrel makers are OK. When chambered and throated to have one caliber 0.224 in the neck cartridge over all length will be 2.780 inches.
When a bullet blows up from excusive RPM's it will occur at 30 yards to 70 yards down range
If we can be of any additional help feel free to contact us.
Thanks for your interest and have a great day.
Walt Berger
Berger Bullets
Technical Advisor"
It's really sounding like a go. Here is the response I got from Walt B. regarding this.
"Hi
We recommend a 1-7 twist for this bullet they have been shot in a 8 twist but we have also had failures in 8 twist barrels. You pick your barrel maker all of the major custom barrel makers are OK. When chambered and throated to have one caliber 0.224 in the neck cartridge over all length will be 2.780 inches.
When a bullet blows up from excusive RPM's it will occur at 30 yards to 70 yards down range
If we can be of any additional help feel free to contact us.
Thanks for your interest and have a great day.
Walt Berger
Berger Bullets
Technical Advisor"
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
I put a 7 twist shilen on my long range gun using a 22-243. I cant run 80 or 90 grain bergers without blowing them up at 25 yards. Was running about 3500 fps. Makes a real cool puff of gray smoke though. Just one data point.
I put a 7 twist shilen on my long range gun using a 22-243. I cant run 80 or 90 grain bergers without blowing them up at 25 yards. Was running about 3500 fps. Makes a real cool puff of gray smoke though. Just one data point.
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
I have run the 90 grain sierras in my 8 twist 22-243. They shot good, but i never really ran with it because the gun is just about shot out and I'm about to rebarrel. I plan on trying the 90 bergers in my next gun. If i remember correctly Litz' book shows the g1 bc of the 90 bergers @3000 fps to be right almost .600. With a 22-250 or 22-243 you should be able to push them atleast 3150+
I have run the 90 grain sierras in my 8 twist 22-243. They shot good, but i never really ran with it because the gun is just about shot out and I'm about to rebarrel. I plan on trying the 90 bergers in my next gun. If i remember correctly Litz' book shows the g1 bc of the 90 bergers @3000 fps to be right almost .600. With a 22-250 or 22-243 you should be able to push them atleast 3150+
Re: 90g berger vld's in a 22-250
I just put together a 223 for FTR w/ a 6.5 twist kreiger for 90s. For some reason I let my guy talk me into neck turning. So it is just sitting around waiting for me to turn necks. My gunsmith also told me to use a 6.5 twist for the 90s. I know people have luck here and there. I had a 9 twist 223 that shot lights out w/ 75 grain bullets. Sold it to buy the stock for this new one that probably won't shoot 4 shit.
But, 6.5 is what I have been told. The 6.5 will also undoubtably limit my ability to go lighter.
The loaded 223 w/ 90 grain bergers fit nicely into the new accuracy International 223 mags.
I loaded what looked Ideal for the mag and sent it to pacific tool and guage for them to make a reamer based on that. Backwards, but seemed clever when I did it.
I just put together a 223 for FTR w/ a 6.5 twist kreiger for 90s. For some reason I let my guy talk me into neck turning. So it is just sitting around waiting for me to turn necks. My gunsmith also told me to use a 6.5 twist for the 90s. I know people have luck here and there. I had a 9 twist 223 that shot lights out w/ 75 grain bullets. Sold it to buy the stock for this new one that probably won't shoot 4 shit.
But, 6.5 is what I have been told. The 6.5 will also undoubtably limit my ability to go lighter.
The loaded 223 w/ 90 grain bergers fit nicely into the new accuracy International 223 mags.
I loaded what looked Ideal for the mag and sent it to pacific tool and guage for them to make a reamer based on that. Backwards, but seemed clever when I did it.
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