A time of reflection:

[fdkay]

Today is the 4th of May.
Time to reflect on how your piss poor decisions can have disastrous consequences.
You know, like throwing rocks and bottles and otherwise threatening the lives and safety of a bunch of 18 and 19 year olds, who are wearing constrictive and uncomfortable gas masks while being armed with the most dominant, general issue battle rifle of WWII.
Ohio National Guard - 4
Stupid left wing kids - 0

 

[Gunfighter14e2]

Remember that day well, buddy at work ask want I thought. Told him those kids should have never graduated HS if they were that stupid.

 

[Foul Mike]

Well I am reflecting. I had to Google the day to see why I was reflecting.
For me I was still in the Army on Medical hold past my ETS and all I wanted to do was go home and be out of all of that whole bin of shit.
I had done my tour in Viet Nam and had done my best, but had collected a few ouchies and bandaids while there and was so confused and disillusioned as to why I had done all of that shit and why my Government had sent me there to do it.
I admired those "Kids" who were close to my own age doing their best to stop that "War" as I didn't understand it either and I had been there participating.
I am very far from Left wing but I knew right from wrong and to this day have trouble living with some of what I did over there.
I was well trained and good at what I did and followed along for a long time, but towards the end of my tour I began to wonder if the same type of situation were going on in My Homeland if I would not be VC.
RIP KS students, you were trying. Foul Mike E Co. 5/7 Cav. 1st. Cavalry Division March 69/March 70 RVN

 

[fdkay]

Well I am reflecting. I had to Google the day to see why I was reflecting.
For me I was still in the Army on Medical hold past my ETS and all I wanted to do was go home and be out of all of that whole bin of shit.
I had done my tour in Viet Nam and had done my best, but had collected a few ouchies and bandaids while there and was so confused and disillusioned as to why I had done all of that shit and why my Government had sent me there to do it.
I admired those "Kids" who were close to my own age doing their best to stop that "War" as I didn't understand it either and I had been there participating.
I am very far from Left wing but I knew right from wrong and to this day have trouble living with some of what I did over there.
I was well trained and good at what I did and followed along for a long time, but towards the end of my tour I began to wonder if the same type of situation were going on in My Homeland if I would not be VC.
RIP KS students, you were trying. Foul Mike E Co. 5/7 Cav. 1st. Cavalry Division March 69/March 70 RVN

Don't get me wrong, they had the right to protest.
But burning down buildings and being, in general, anarchists. It is not the answer.
Again, don't throw crap at heavily armed, scared kids.
Demonstrate peacefully and intelligently.

 

[Foul Mike]

I don't think I am getting you wrong.
I don't know about burning buildings and would not condone that, however--
The times were Poppin and I think everyone was fed up with how things were going on and people were in the streets and at Govt. buildings voicing their displeasure. I was with them. I had had enough of the bullshit the Govt. was spouting as I knew better from experience.
In 70 I went to a Big peace rally at DU,in Colorado, where they were doing a camp out, in a park, much like the homeless of today, and I hate those Lazy "Homeless" Bums as I have worked all of my life for all I have got but it kind of looked the same.
No buildings were set on fire and being a Vet I did not fit in with the crowd but I did get my crank spun by a Hippie chick and it was good. I digress.
Denver Police had decided they had had enough of this shit so moved in with tear gas grenades to bust it up.
They popped CS and all ran except for one ASSHOLE who sat still until the cloud of CS wafted over him, holding his breath, they were all laughing at that ASSHOLE and what a fool he was to sit there and take the gas.
That ASSHOLE had a gas mask from Ft. Carson and as the cloud enveloped him and he was covered and not able to be seen in the cloud he donned his mask, cleared it according to training, put on welding gloves to deliver the gas grenades back to the Police cars that they had come from and left unsecured and a few Police cars burned.I would bet he would do it again today if he were able to.
Police procedures changed that day, and the ASSHOLE rode off on his motorsicle wondering if they,the Police, would learn to watch their 6. FM

 

[Bender]

I don't think I am getting you wrong.
I don't know about burning buildings and would not condone that, however--
The times were Poppin and I think everyone was fed up with how things were going on and people were in the streets and at Govt. buildings voicing their displeasure. I was with them. I had had enough of the bullshit the Govt. was spouting as I knew better from experience.
In 70 I went to a Big peace rally at DU,in Colorado, where they were doing a camp out, in a park, much like the homeless of today, and I hate those Lazy "Homeless" Bums as I have worked all of my life for all I have got but it kind of looked the same.
No buildings were set on fire and being a Vet I did not fit in with the crowd but I did get my crank spun by a Hippie chick and it was good. I digress.
Denver Police had decided they had had enough of this shit so moved in with tear gas grenades to bust it up.
They popped CS and all ran except for one ASSHOLE who sat still until the cloud of CS wafted over him, holding his breath, they were all laughing at that ASSHOLE and what a fool he was to sit there and take the gas.
That ASSHOLE had a gas mask from Ft. Carson and as the cloud enveloped him and he was covered and not able to be seen in the cloud he donned his mask, cleared it according to training, put on welding gloves to deliver the gas grenades back to the Police cars that they had come from and left unsecured and a few Police cars burned.I would bet he would do it again today if he were able to.
Police procedures changed that day, and the ASSHOLE rode off on his motorsicle wondering if they,the Police, would learn to watch their 6. FM

Lmao!!! Hahahaha!!!!!

 

[EddieNFL]

I admired those "Kids" who were close to my own age doing their best to stop that "War" as I didn't understand it either and I had been there participating.

Much like today's kids...except they're not trying to stop a war, just a president and the country as we know it.

 

[Greg Langelius *]

When we see that picture of the horrified girl supposedly objectifying the horror that was done to those poor college kids; somehow the bottles, rocks, and burning building never seem to find their way into the frame.

F*king hypocrites.

I fought and came right up next to dying in that damned war. If anybody should have been protesting, at least I had a right.

But never the inclination...

On April 10, 1970, Jerry Rubin, a leader of the Youth International Party (Yippie party), spoke on campus. In remarks reported locally, he said "“The first part of the Yippie program is to kill your parents. They are the first oppressors.” These remarks frightened local residents who took them literally. Two weeks after that Bill Anthrell, an SDS member and former student, distributed flyers to an event in which he said he was going to napalm a dog. The event turned out to be an anti-napalm teach-in.

Kent State Massacre.

By the time police arrived, a crowd of 120 had already gathered. Some people from the crowd lit a small bonfire in the street. The crowd appeared to be a mix of bikers, students, and transient people. A few members of the crowd began to throw beer bottles at the police, and then started yelling obscenities at them. The entire Kent police force was called to duty as well as officers from the county and surrounding communities. Kent Mayor LeRoy Satrom declared a state of emergency, called the office of Ohio Governor Jim Rhodes to seek assistance, and ordered all of the bars closed. The decision to close the bars early increased the size of the angry crowd. Police eventually succeeded in using tear gas to disperse the crowd from downtown, forcing them to move several blocks back to the campus

Photographs of the dead and wounded at Kent State that were distributed in newspapers and periodicals worldwide amplified sentiment against the United States' invasion of Cambodia and the Vietnam War in general. In particular, the camera of Kent State photojournalism student John Filo captured a 14-year-old runaway, Mary Ann Vecchio, screaming over the dead body of Jeffrey Miller, who had been shot in the mouth. The photograph, which won a Pulitzer Prize, became the most enduring image of the events, and one of the more enduring images of the anti-Vietnam War movement.

The poster child wasn't even a student at Kent, but a 14 year old fugitive.

So much about that University, the students, and the outside agitators was completely glossed over because it was just more inconvenient truth that the Left wishes would just fade from memory. Innocent victims? Good question.

The Fake Press was already active back then...

Greg

 

[TripleBull]

The times were Poppin and I think everyone was fed up with how things were going on and people were in the streets and at Govt. buildings voicing their displeasure. I was with them. I had had enough of the bullshit the Govt. was spouting as I knew better from experience.

LOL, who iss dis crank-spun ASSHOLE?

Great story. Your comments above are spot on.

 

[Foul Mike]

I dunno, I do know he is to this day an ASSHOLE who speaks his mind and is a very proud Veteran to say the least.
I think he still rides a 1964 Triumph T120 R also.

 

[MtnCreek]

I knew there would be some hippie pussy involved.

 

[Marinevet1]

48 years ago today.......I was 15.......Vietnam was the headlines in the paper, and on the news everyday.......the young people were pretty much the same as today.......protesting about the big political controversy of the time........right or wrong.......they will continue to do it long after we are all gone...... I remember having a military coat of some type, bought from a local military surplus store, with a peace sign, that was bought from the local head shop.......and time goes on.........

 

[j-huskey]

"One of you knew her, and found her dead on the ground, how can you run when you know, four dead in Ohio"

Much like MV1, I was in a very similar life, Ft. Benning, Ga, just across the river was in full swing, training people to go to that war. Guys from Benning were getting jumps in at local dirt air strips. I didn't understand then they were SF, or why they were jumping dirt strips... Guys in full rattle battle were doing road marches on back country roads off post. Planes were low flying over the house after dark. Scary and exciting too.
Pops last duty station was Benning, and his buddies were running Ranger and Jump school then, and coming to the house, built a rodeo arena, and did a lot of rodeo and party. Every one of his buddies did multiple tours. Seven of them, four didn't make it out alive. Pop and mom were fighting like hell, Pop was going to take a Captains commission and go back in.... mom gave him a choice, divorced captain who would never see his two sons again, or else. He chose seeing his sons, and the else, reasons don't matter much now, but his buddies agreed with mom and as he buried the four, that played a big part too. I had an endless supply of tiger suits...
Can't say really when the guys who came back, and to the house, brought the 1000 yard stare, and some serious drinking and f'd up, but the rodeos weren't really fun anymore, and the drinking went on 24/7. Automatic weapons fire was like fireworks, and there was stuff that went boooommm. There were fights and some ugly shit. One of the black guys had the deadest eyes I've ever seen on a live human, and everybody walked around him when he was drunk or stoned (RIP, Robert Lee "T"). He wore the first ears necklace I saw.
The words to the song were alive then. At our age, me and mine didn't know about burned buildings or agitators, all we knew was a girl was dead. "T" said, "What a waste of good pussy", and when they got drunk, they all hated the war, and were against it, but on Monday, they were back in uniform and training on post.
The words, "How can you run when you know", got beat into me. The guys went back to war, they didn't run from what they hated, they didnt run from what killing a protester meant, to either side, they would have f'd her or shot her, either way, didn't matter.
I saw all the happy, sad, sober, and drunk, and mom and dad fighting like hell over Vietnam, and I sat there stealing beer, getting drunk, and singing those words, thinking about a dead girl and wasted pussy. Looking up to and trying to act like my heroes, my dad and his buddies from Ft. Benning.
Now, I don't know who that kid was. So much for reflection.
Four dead in ohio.... how many more.