• The Shot You’ll Never Forget Giveaway - Enter To Win A Barrel From Rifle Barrel Blanks!

    Tell us about the best or most memorable shot you’ve ever taken. Contest ends June 13th and remember: subscribe for a better chance of winning!

    Join contest Subscribe

about to order a manners, have some questions

J

jackh

Sergeant
Full Member
Minuteman
Dec 18, 2008
683
1
College Station, TX
#1
i was reading about their molded in colors on their site. im getting the feeling that the finish on their painted stocks are not very durable, is this true? the molded in colors seem like they might be the ticket to fix this problem. however, their little disclaimer about the molded colors being field grade finish and possible having mold lines, sanding marks or fiberglass cloth has me worried too. i really dont want to pay $600 for a stock only to have some of the paint scratch off first time i walk through the brush or have it looks shitty with mold lines all over it.

also, im new to long range shooting and my gun outshoots me as it sits in the factory stock. should i bother getting a full bed job right now? or should i just have them install the pillars, then later on get a full bed job when i think i need it?

thanks
 
  • Like
Reactions: Feurhand
#2
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

Manners is a stand up company, dont worry about their product it is TOP NOTCH. Also their are multiple reports by people on here where they have sent their stocks back in and Manners has repainted for free.

My opinion on the bed / pillars is to buy once cry once. You would end up spending more on shipping / work etc if you had it done in multiple jobs
 
#3
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

Couple of thoughts.

1- Their paint jobs will stand up, not doubt about that. I have a few very amount of small scratches on mine and I have beat it on brush for a good number of comps. You wouldn't even be able to see them if you didn't know where they were.

2- What action are you running? Have you thought about the Mini Chassis system? It could save you money in the long run. No need to bed, drop in a go, and it has the Badger M5 bottom metal.
 
#4
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

I would go ahead and bed it. Might as well better your shooting skills with a stock that you know is not a variable. I am a firm believer in buy once, cry once. And f#ck no I don't look busy, I did it right the first time. Those are 2 motto's I live and die by.

Bed the rifle, worst case scenario your rifle will shoot even better and you will be glad you did it.

Disclaimer, these are all my opinions.
 
#5
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

I plan on getting the italian looking multi cam on my rifle when it's finished. from what their site says the coating is very durable just can't be dragged over rocks or dropped on sharp edges, that will scratch it.
 
#8
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

Mold lines and fiberglass are nothing. My McM have them and it doesn't bother me at all. My old smears have tons of threads showing through and it's just looks nothing to be worried about.
 
#11
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

You won't find a more reputable stock company out there than Manners. There are going to be people that complain about giving them a FREE $100 bill that has a crease in it.

I am currently waiting on a MCS-T stock for my 10PC. I am SO FREAKIN PUMPED about the thought of getting this stock, I can hardly stand it!! I opted to only get the pillars installed, as I have a tub of Devcon Steel Putty that I need to use up.

I also opted to go with a solid OD stock, as I love to do my own paint jobs. Paint is not made to be 100% scratch proof. Besides, it is only paint. The rifle will be a tool, and more than likely not a showpiece. Even though some of them cost like they are.

Just get it, shoot it, and enjoy!! Manners is good to go!!

DK
 
#12
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">i was reading about their molded in colors on their site. im getting the feeling that the finish on their painted stocks are not very durable, is this true? the molded in colors seem like they might be the ticket to fix this problem. however, their little disclaimer about the molded colors being field grade finish and possible having mold lines, sanding marks or fiberglass cloth has me worried too. i really dont want to pay $600 for a stock only to have some of the paint scratch off first time i walk through the brush or have it looks shitty with mold lines all over it.

also, im new to long range shooting and my gun outshoots me as it sits in the factory stock. should i bother getting a full bed job right now? or should i just have them install the pillars, then later on get a full bed job when i think i need it?

thanks </div></div>
Just get the painted then you don't have to worry about mold lines. The paint is pretty darn durable from what I can see and seems to be the industry standard in regards to durability. Honestly either way you won't go wrong with a Manners!


Just my .02
 
#13
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

i think ill just do painted and not worry about mold lines and stuff. i guess scratches will just prove i use it and add to the character lol.

whats the advantage of the mini chassis? does the mini chassis eliminate the need for a bed job? if i do order the mini chassis, do i need to mail them my gun to have everything put together?

the rifle is a rem700 sps varmint chambered in .308. i had opted against a mini chassis or other dbm system in the past to try and keep the rifle as light weight as possible. this gun will be mainly for hunting but also some long range work on the side. no comps or anything.
 
#14
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

The advantage of the mini chassis is that the DBM system is built directly into the rifle. It is one piece with the stock. It does not require bedding. I spoke with Manner's over the phone about the chassis and he said it was drop in for common actions.

There is some controversy about bedding blocks. Do a search on V blocks and you will see a few opposing opinions. At the same time the Army uses HS Precision on the M24 which is the same idea: an aluminum bedding block. Many many people are happy with the accuracy and repeatability of their LTR's, PSS's, and 5R's.

The drawback depends on what application your rife will serve. The biggest is weight it adds almost a pound (.889 w/ 5rnd mag). This can be offset by choosing the carbon fiber fill option. Although, personally, I'm not sure it makes sense to pay the premium for the light fill then weigh it down with the chassis(?!).

Now to contradict myself- If I was to go the DBM route I would get the chassis and the carbon fiber fill.
wink.gif
 
#15
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

i cant afford the mini chassis and dont think its practical for my application. im wanting to keep this as light as i can without paying premium for the carbon fill. the gun is mostly used for hunting.

so i need to package up my rifle and send it off to manners to be bedded and everything??
 
#16
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

One thing about the molded in camo is that it is free.

The mini-chassis is pretty affordable when you consider the cost of decent bottom metal, and you save a couple of bucks by not having to pay for pillars. If you are going to pay to have the action fully bedded by a professional, and then you add in the cost of bottom metal, you are spending more than the cost of the mini-chassis. That said, if you don't want or need it, you don't want or need it.
 
#17
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

Call Manners and discuss your options... You simply can't go wrong with them.

I have 5 of the T-4's and the OD Green paint has done well. A few chips and scratches after being run HARD, way less then I would have expected.

Tom manners is a Stand up guy ! His painter is kinda OK also
smile.gif
 
#18
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

Just put my order in today and was shocked how friendly they were. Karey was a great guy to talk to. Only thing that sucks is the 12-15 week wait time. I'm sure it'll be worth the wait though. I agree about calling to talk to them to talk about options.
 
#19
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

if i do not order a full bed job, will i be able to just drop my rifle into the new stock when it comes in the mail?

im hesitant to pay for the full bed job right now. the rifle is currently not bedded or anything, just bone stock with optics, and it outshoots me as it is. i know once i get more serious about this stuff ill want it bedded, im just not to that point yet. will the rifle shoot like it does now if i just drop it into the new stock and go?

also, if i get a full bed job, will i ever be able to change stocks in the future if i end up not liking what i get from manners this time around?
 
#20
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: z71rat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't find a more reputable stock company out there than Manners. There are going to be people that complain about giving them a FREE $100 bill that has a crease in it.

I am currently waiting on a MCS-T stock for my 10PC. I am SO FREAKIN PUMPED about the thought of getting this stock, I can hardly stand it!! I opted to only get the pillars installed, as I have a tub of Devcon Steel Putty that I need to use up.

I also opted to go with a solid OD stock, as I love to do my own paint jobs. Paint is not made to be 100% scratch proof. Besides, it is only paint. The rifle will be a tool, and more than likely not a showpiece. Even though some of them cost like they are.

Just get it, shoot it, and enjoy!! Manners is good to go!!

DK </div></div>

Not to get off topic but your 10 PC has the new bolt release correct? Not many people have stocks out for that without switching to a blind mag... More details please, are you going to use the stock dbm? If so are you sending them your action for Manner's to inlet?
 
#21
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i do not order a full bed job, will i be able to just drop my rifle into the new stock when it comes in the mail?
</div></div>

Yes. Get the pillars installed when you order the stock, drop it in, torque it properly, and shoot it.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> will the rifle shoot like it does now if i just drop it into the new stock and go?
</div></div>

If your rifle is in the Remington plastic stock it'll probably shoot better immediately in the Manners, at least mine did.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">also, if i get a full bed job, will i ever be able to change stocks in the future if i end up not liking what i get from manners this time around?</div></div>

Yes.
The "full bed job" doesn't attach the action/barrel to the stock, if that's what you are asking.

My advice would be to get a painted "T" stock with pillars installed, and the carbon fill option if you can swing it.
If you don't like it, you can sell it here for very close to what you paid for it.
If you do like it, send your rifle back to Manners and have it bedded.

Call Manners and talk to Karey. He'll answer all your questions.
 
#22
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

When I drop the rifle into the stock with pillars, is that considered pillar bedding?

I'm nervous about the stock feeling hollow/thin/flimsy etc with the carbon fiber fill. I'm probably wrong, but when I think of the stock being that light weight, it makes me think it will feel less substantial if that makes any sense. Am I completely wrong or what?
 
#24
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i do not order a full bed job, will i be able to just drop my rifle into the new stock when it comes in the mail?

im hesitant to pay for the full bed job right now. the rifle is currently not bedded or anything, just bone stock with optics, and it outshoots me as it is. i know once i get more serious about this stuff ill want it bedded, im just not to that point yet. will the rifle shoot like it does now if i just drop it into the new stock and go?

also, if i get a full bed job, will i ever be able to change stocks in the future if i end up not liking what i get from manners this time around? </div></div>

I was looking at Manner's website and had the same question.
<span style="font-style: italic">Puhleeze</span>, nobody jump my shit... I'm just asking...
I <span style="font-weight: bold">know</span> they're a great product, and standup company, but their website is short on info.

<span style="font-weight: bold">IF</span> exterior durability is not a concern- it's a benchrest gun, does the actual material makeup of the stock (carbon fiber, from what I see) contribute to accuracy?

I guess the gist of my question is, if the stock needs to be bedded anyway as in a "typical" stock, what advantage (again- durability aside) do you gain to justify the additional cost over, say, a B&C that costs half as much? Is the "feel" and ergonomics that much better that an "average" but serious mid-range target shooter would appreciate the difference?
 
#25
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wannashootit</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jackh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">if i do not order a full bed job, will i be able to just drop my rifle into the new stock when it comes in the mail?

im hesitant to pay for the full bed job right now. the rifle is currently not bedded or anything, just bone stock with optics, and it outshoots me as it is. i know once i get more serious about this stuff ill want it bedded, im just not to that point yet. will the rifle shoot like it does now if i just drop it into the new stock and go?

also, if i get a full bed job, will i ever be able to change stocks in the future if i end up not liking what i get from manners this time around? </div></div>

I was looking at Manner's website and had the same question.
<span style="font-style: italic">Puhleeze</span>, nobody jump my shit... I'm just asking...
I <span style="font-weight: bold">know</span> they're a great product, and standup company, but their website is short on info.

<span style="font-weight: bold">IF</span> exterior durability is not a concern- it's a benchrest gun, does the actual material makeup of the stock (carbon fiber, from what I see) contribute to accuracy?

I guess the gist of my question is, if the stock needs to be bedded anyway as in a "typical" stock, what advantage (again- durability aside) do you gain to justify the additional cost over, say, a B&C that costs half as much? Is the "feel" and ergonomics that much better that an "average" but serious mid-range target shooter would appreciate the difference?
</div></div>

thats a really good question. hopefully someone will chime in that knows their shit. but, i have read some crummy reports on the fit and finish of some B&C stocks. i know every company has lemons, but B&C seems to have more? also, i have read that manners stands behind their products very well
 
#26
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

I've never owned a B&C stock, so Im no help with that question.

If you'll call Manners and ask for Karey he'll answer any question you can ask regarding Manners stocks.
 
#27
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

I wonder if you could get a solid OD molded into the stock rather than the blotches. I dont care for the look of the blotches but i like the durability idea of it. A molded OD all over the stock sounds perfect to me. Anyone know if this is an option? thanks Lee
 
#28
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: skeetlee</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I wonder if you could get a solid OD molded into the stock rather than the blotches. I dont care for the look of the blotches but i like the durability idea of it. A molded OD all over the stock sounds perfect to me. Anyone know if this is an option? thanks Lee</div></div>

http://mannerstocks.com/color-and-finishes/

Short answer; yes, molded OD is an option.
 
#29
Re: about to order a manners, have some questions

just placed my order:

Stock: MCS-T
Action: REMINGTON 700 S/A R/H
Trigger guard: REMINGTON BDL HINGED FLOOR PLATE
Barrel contour: FACTORY BDL
Finish: SOLID COYOTE TAN MCS CAMO
Hardware: SLING STUD 1ea - BTM FOREND
FLUSH CUP 2ea - bottom
FLUSH CUP 2ea - left side
INSTALL 9/16" PILLARS

i talked with karey for like half an hour, he was a huge help. cant wait till august to get it
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

cypriss32
Accessories AI-ATX Chassis
Replies
2
Views
1K
cypriss32
cypriss32
S
Firearms ANSCHUTZ 1416 AV T6M .22 LR 64 Rimfire Trainer Manners stock
Replies
2
Views
359
Bart
B
T
Firearms Remington 700 308 Krieger Barrels Built
Replies
7
Views
1K
toasti
T
tetonsplit
SOLD WTS Brand New Accurate Ordnance 6.5CM
Replies
1
Views
312
Nathanh
N
M
Remage barrel bedding questions!
Replies
1
Views
212
Haney
H
Top Bottom
Back
Home
Forums
Merch
Alerts