acculab vic 123?

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    • Apr 3, 2009
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    #1
    Any users with this scale? Good bad? I've read varying reviews. I'm looking for a solid accurate scale. Digital would be nice. I'm using a rcbs 505 right now. I know it will get the job done, but I've found it to be inconsistent. it's an old scale, it just might need to be replaced or sent back to RCBS.

    I thought about the RCBS chargemaster combo, but I think I would rather have a super accurate scale.

    Does anyone know what the warranty is like after the 2 years is up on the acculab? Will they repair it at a nomial cost should the need arise?

    Thanks for any input!
     
    #2
    Re: acculab vic 123?

    The Denver Instrument MXX-123 is a excellent digital scale. I have had mine up and running continiuos for about 3 1/2 years. I love it and will buy another when the time comes.

    Denver Instrument

    Its under the low budget in the balances area on the left of the page.

    Terry
     
    #4
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    My VIC-123 is a good scale, had it 2-3 years.
    The trick is to leave it on a while before use, and to return the empty pan after each charge-dump....making sure it returns to zero. If it doesn't, just tap the zero button and you are off and running again. Very accurate when you learn to work with it.
     
    #7
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    One just sold here for $100.00 used these are the best scales for reloading and I have not heard of any having one serviced at all.
    I have had mine for 3 years works great and accurate to .02 grains

    Buy one !!!!!!!!!
     
    #11
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    That "single kernal accuracy" claim goes along with my findings as well.
    Is this level of accuracy required? I would think not.

    When I work up loads I like to do 5 rounds of each charge level; increasing the charge just a little for each set of five.
    This could be a challenge with my previous digital scale.
    If charge "A" is to be 44.0 grains and charge "B" is to be 44.5 grains and if my scale is not to be trusted to better than .2 grains I may wind up comparing A to B with little or no difference between the two. The VIC-123 will deliver .02 to .03 grain accuracy, in my experience.

    Do I use it for every load? Not very often, lately. I use it more for testing loads and testing my measure accuracy for "thrown" charges.
     
    #12
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    You can actually pick different size grains of Varget and the scale will show different values.

    Adding to the above, it needs to be in a draft free and temp stable environment while using. The warm-up is essential. Once fully warmed up, sitting in a temp stable and draft free environment, it will sit on the same value for days.

    My check weights are totally repeatable with it.

    Bottom line is, for the $$, it's the shit. Google and find the best price. "scales for less" or something like that comes to mind. Expect to pay about $214 shipped.
     
    #15
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    #16
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    I own the scale you are asking about, and have played around with what effects small variations in charge weight have on accuracy.

    Ive determined the accuracy required to get world class accuracy depends on alot of things...single kernal accuracy will deffinatly improve your confidence in your loads, but it wont show downrange.
     
    #17
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    what about the rcbs chargemaster?? The acculab cost about the same as the chargemaster, but I would think the acculab is more accurate/reliable???
     
    #18
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    Interesting you say that, as I also own a RCBS ChargeMaster.

    It has all the accuracy anyone needs.
    Its faster.
    Its more reliable from my standpoint (I've had to send the acculab back once)...the only RCBS errors were my fault.

    I just use my ChargeMaster more, WAY more.
     
    #19
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    Are the problems people have with the chargemaster that the scale is not accurate or that the dispenser is not accurate? I'm not as concerned about the dispenser as I am the accuracy and consistency of the scale. I've always intended to trickle up to charge with the acculab.
     
    #20
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    I wnet to the Acculab from a 10-10. With the only change in my loading being the scale all of my velocity extreme spreads dropped noticeably.
     
    #21
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Wheres-Waldo</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I own the scale you are asking about, and have played around with what effects small variations in charge weight have on accuracy.

    Ive determined the accuracy required to get world class accuracy depends on alot of things...single kernal accuracy will deffinatly improve your confidence in your loads, but it wont show downrange.

    </div></div>

    I didn't say you SHOULD, I said you COULD. So I've got that going for me. Which is nice.
     
    #22
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Frogman77</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Are the problems people have with the chargemaster that the scale is not accurate or that the dispenser is not accurate? I'm not as concerned about the dispenser as I am the accuracy and consistency of the scale. I've always intended to trickle up to charge with the acculab. </div></div>

    Whatever accuracy issues the Chargemaster may have can be eliminated by zeroing the scale after each charge. This is very easy. Just hit the zero button.
     
    #23
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    I had a Gen 1 RCBS dispenser/scale combo and got rid of it in favor of the VIC-123.
    The RCBS was pretty slow and wandered alot. If I really stayed on top of it I believe it yielded no better than +/- .2 grain accuracy.

    I can throw from my Redding measure into a pan and hand trickle to within .02 grains or so, as fast or faster than that unit could.

    I understand the newer models are faster. I was not impressed enough with the first to spend more money on the later models.
    I notice people on this site tweaking the newer models to achieve more speed or better accuracy. It sounds to me like they are still less than perfect for at least a few people.
     
    #24
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    I will continue to use the Redding to get close then trickle to within 1 grain, if nothing else it makes me feel better. and I know its not a charge issue.
    I consider it the elimination of a variable?
    Bill


    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rafael</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had a Gen 1 RCBS dispenser/scale combo and got rid of it in favor of the VIC-123.
    The RCBS was pretty slow and wandered alot. If I really stayed on top of it I believe it yielded no better than +/- .2 grain accuracy.

    I can throw from my Redding measure into a pan and hand trickle to within .02 grains or so, as fast or faster than that unit could.

    I understand the newer models are faster. I was not impressed enough with the first to spend more money on the later models.
    I notice people on this site tweaking the newer models to achieve more speed or better accuracy. It sounds to me like they are still less than perfect for at least a few people. </div></div>
     
    #26
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    I might have a line on a vic 303 used. Is there a huge difference between the two? I know the 303 has a greater range but perhaps the resolution isn't as fine? Not sure that it would make that much of a difference either way.
     
    #27
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    Hello, I have a rcbs chargemaster and the mxx-123 scale. The chargemaster is very accurate. I used to check every charge from the chargemaster on the mxx-123 but that soon stoped. Now I just set the charge master to auto mode and start dispensing.
     
    #28
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    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: christpher7</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Hello, I have a rcbs chargemaster and the mxx-123 scale. The chargemaster is very accurate. I used to check every charge from the chargemaster on the mxx-123 but that soon stoped. Now I just set the charge master to auto mode and start dispensing. </div></div>

    Same here. I found the VIC123 wandered too much to be any more accurate than the Chargemaster. I tried using the VIC123 for trickling charges but again, it would wander then settle then I'd trickle some more powder and wait for it to settle. It wasn't fun and id didn't make my rounds any more accurate. I ended up selling it. The Chargemaster is very accurate and it wanders much less than the VIC123. Its really all you need but I happened to come upon a Mettler/Toledo Analytical balance that is accurate to 1/100th of a grain and it doesn't wander. I use it to verify my Chargemaster sometimes and the Chargemaster seems to be acurate to + or - .05grains.
     
    #29
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    Rafael.
    I agree one you have the load for the rifle there is a little more room to load with reguard to the amount .2 either way does not make a lot of differance once you find the "sweet spot"

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rafael</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I agree, Bill.
    While I get pretty loose with actual volume loading at times,
    during load testing/development I want to narrow every variable possible. </div></div>
     
    #30
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    I know this is an old thread but just curious to what "stability setting" you guys use on the vic 123? stable, unstable or very unstable? I think there's one more in there but I don't remember what it is.

    What's the trade off? do you lose accuracy if you set it to very unstable??

    thanks in advance.
     
    #32
    Re: acculab vic 123?

    Wow! I dont know if I have more quetions or answers than before I started reading this thread. Looks like a mixed bag . I have the CM1500 and it seems to be spot on about 98% of the time.I was thinking about getting a scale too but it sounds like I need to read a little bit more before I can make a informed decision.
     
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