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Good. Thank you. Please share.

A glimpse into the possible future.

A few short years from now, the dems own the white house and both chambers. They pass a new and improved “red flag law” They have an army of blue haired queers paid by tax dollars, feverishly scanning all social media posts for the thrill of stopping you from buying a gun.

They can play that game a lot better than we care to.
 
Good. Thank you. Please share.

A glimpse into the possible future.

A few short years from now, the dems own the white house and both chambers. They pass a new and improved “red flag law” They have an army of blue haired queers paid by tax dollars, feverishly scanning all social media posts for the thrill of stopping you from buying a gun.

They can play that game a lot better than we care to.
They have thier games we have ours.
If i have to spell it all out its to late for you to understand.
Good luck
 
I would say that these but jobs are next to zero threat, except that they’re obviously completely insane. Carry everywhere.


Close to zero threat for people who are armed and who are prepared, but for a soft target like a school, it would be akin to a pack of mink in a chicken farm. Soft targets MUST be hardened, not just by having a "police station nearby", but ARMED staff and armed volunteers who are right there. I would volunteer at my local school in a heartbeat if they allowed it here. I believe both TN and FL have bills in the pipeline right now expanding CCW rights for school staff. This has to be pushed everywhere.
 
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They have thier games we have ours.
If i have to spell it all out its to late for you to understand.
Good luck
Yeah, I just don't see how arbitrability denying people their rights based on party affiliation or things they posted on the web would work out so well, for anybody. Especially in the long run.

Like the denied would just swallow it and go home? Give up?

Seems like something we don’t want to start.

And for what?

How has this post aged? Has aunt queefa sent in waves of kitted up troops?
 
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Yeah, I just don't see how arbitrability denying people their rights based on party affiliation or things they posted on the web would work out so well, for anybody. Especially in the long run.

Like the denied would just swallow it and go home? Give up?

Seems like something we don’t want to start.

And for what?

How has this post aged? Has aunt queefa sent in waves of kitted up troops?


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How has this post aged? Has aunt queefa sent in waves of kitted up troops?
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Well dawg, a leftist freak killed 6 people in a Nashville school, followed by another leftist freak killing 4 people in Louisville, and more freaks openly threatening acts of terrorism on social media.

Thing is, there is only ONE side here. That is AMERICA. Not "right wing". But Patriots. And the other camp is a death cult. A foreign death cult penned partially by some 19th century German incel named Karl Marx and later had more shit added to it by other murderous incels who wanted to bring the whole world down to their own level of misery. There are no sides in what we are facing right now. We have an INFESTATION. A BLIGHT. Our children cannot even be safe in school without getting touched on by drag queens, or threatened because something they said "hurt the feelings" of some protected group of sexual deviants.
 
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Yeah, I just don't see how arbitrability denying people their rights based on party affiliation or things they posted on the web would work out so well, for anybody. Especially in the long run.

Like the denied would just swallow it and go home? Give up?

Seems like something we don’t want to start.

And for what?

How has this post aged? Has aunt queefa sent in waves of kitted up troops?
You should open your eyes. Start with Karl Kasarda of In-Range TV, then Russell Phagan (SinistralRifleman) of KE Arms. They are the type who are actively arming and training extreme left wing groups, like the ones who show up as armed protection at the pedo drag shows for grooming children. Their core followers include ANTIFA, Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Rifle Club. Here's a looong thread on another site that might educate you, but I doubt you're the type who actually cares Karl from Inrange thread
 
Be careful what you wish for.

Normalizing and making this accepted practice is a slippery slope. Js.
 
You should open your eyes. Start with Karl Kasarda of In-Range TV, then Russell Phagan (SinistralRifleman) of KE Arms. They are the type who are actively arming and training extreme left wing groups, like the ones who show up as armed protection at the pedo drag shows for grooming children. Their core followers include ANTIFA, Socialist Rifle Association and the John Brown Rifle Club. Here's a looong thread on another site that might educate you, but I doubt you're the type who actually cares Karl from Inrange thread

Oh, I care. I care to preserve our rights. It seems some here, don’t.

The mental gymnastics of those supporting this is astounding.

So, it’s ok for us to kit up and post smack, but not them?

For decades it’s been us, who have marched in the streets, kitted up. Now the left wants to play and some here get all butt hurt. Is that what this is? Freedom is messy.

It’s hard to keep a gun store afloat. Now we are asking shop owners to take more risk. Asking them to run social media checks and deny based findings.

What could possibly go wrong?

“Msgriff, the federal background check is clean, but we decided to deny your purchase due to a social media check we performed. Now forfeit your fees and get out of our store, loser.”

How would that work for you? Let’s be honest.

Now, in your fantasy world where shop owners actually did this, how do you think that would play out in the long run for said shop owners? The backlash, on many levels from such actions could be devastating. Let’s not place more burden on our few remaining shops, please.

Man up. The 2nd is for everybody.

In 1967, armed blacks marched in California. Alarmed, that blacks could actually play like us, another knee jerk gun law came to be. The Mumford act, prohibiting this activity. Signed by Governor Ronald Reagan.

So, how many more of our rights do you want to erode because of your insecurities?

Is it time for a safe space?
 
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During times of Culture War, American rights are for us Americans only and not for Leftists. Any other way of thinking is what got our constitutional republic into this mess in the first place.
 
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…. Let’s take another call for today’s common sense panelists.

Lug Nut, from the SF gay area, go ahead.

Thanks for taking my call. The obvious hypocrisy on this segment is ripe for memes.

“Control criminals, not guns.” “Shall not be infringed.” “Gun laws don’t work.” “From my cold dead hands.”

Oh, you mean the other side is buying guns?



“Gun shop owners, since we have no laws to stop the left from arming up, it’s up to you to police who buys guns.”





And I’ll take my reply off the air.
 
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"Live and Let Live" is what got our constitutional republic into this mess in the first place. Winning the Cold Culture War we're in to saave our republic will require great sacrifice- just like any other war.

Worrying about or even complaining about "hypocrisy" has gotten us nowhere and is an exercise in mental masturbation. It's time we Americans started treating democrats like they do us.
 
Keeping guns out of the wrong hands is desirable.

How to go about it is the question.
 
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Keeping guns out of the wrong hands is desirable.

And the "good folks" have lost a huge amount of their 2A rights and have willingly allowed the 2A to become a "second class right" all in the name of that goal. Oh and how has that worked out for all y'all "good folks"? Do criminals have any problem getting guns or weapons at will?

The answer is simple, always assume bad people will get guns or weapons as needed, because history shows they do.
ALL the "good folks" should be carrying 24/7 and there should be no "soft targets" available for bad folks to attack.

It's criminal in my opinion that schools are not well guarded by armed guards who are willing and ready to use their arms.
You can bet your ass the children of the rich, famous and political elite all are afforded that level of protection.

A fancy gun on your side should be part of your Sunday church attire.
 
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How has this post aged? Has aunt queefa sent in waves of kitted up troops?
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Well dawg, a leftist freak killed 6 people in a Nashville school, followed by another leftist freak killing 4 people in Louisville, and more freaks openly threatening acts of terrorism on social media.

Thing is, there is only ONE side here. That is AMERICA. Not "right wing". But Patriots. And the other camp is a death cult. A foreign death cult penned partially by some 19th century German incel named Karl Marx and later had more shit added to it by other murderous incels who wanted to bring the whole world down to their own level of misery. There are no sides in what we are facing right now. We have an INFESTATION. A BLIGHT. Our children cannot even be safe in school without getting touched on by drag queens, or threatened because something they said "hurt the feelings" of some protected group of sexual deviants.
Yeah lets count the number of leftist spree killers and compare against the right wing spree shooters.
 
And the "good folks" have lost a huge amount of their 2A rights and have willingly allowed the 2A to become a "second class right" all in the name of that goal. Oh and how has that worked out for all y'all "good folks"? Do criminals have any problem getting guns or weapons at will?

The answer is simple, always assume bad people will get guns or weapons as needed, because history shows they do.
ALL the "good folks" should be carrying 24/7 and there should be no "soft targets" available for bad folks to attack.

It's criminal in my opinion that schools are not well guarded by armed guards who are willing and ready to use their arms.
You can bet your ass the children of the rich, famous and political elite all are afforded that level of protection.

A fancy gun on your side should be part of your Sunday church attire.
Looks like my rhetorical sarcasm was not strong enough.
 
Perhaps start a "list" for everyones social credit score?
 
Oh, I care. I care to preserve our rights. It seems some here, don’t.

The mental gymnastics of those supporting this is astounding.

So, it’s ok for us to kit up and post smack, but not them?

For decades it’s been us, who have marched in the streets, kitted up. Now the left wants to play and some here get all butt hurt. Is that what this is? Freedom is messy.

It’s hard to keep a gun store afloat. Now we are asking shop owners to take more risk. Asking them to run social media checks and deny based findings.

What could possibly go wrong?

“Msgriff, the federal background check is clean, but we decided to deny your purchase due to a social media check we performed. Now forfeit your fees and get out of our store, loser.”

How would that work for you? Let’s be honest.

Now, in your fantasy world where shop owners actually did this, how do you think that would play out in the long run for said shop owners? The backlash, on many levels from such actions could be devastating. Let’s not place more burden on our few remaining shops, please.

Man up. The 2nd is for everybody.

In 1967, armed blacks marched in California. Alarmed, that blacks could actually play like us, another knee jerk gun law came to be. The Mumford act, prohibiting this activity. Signed by Governor Ronald Reagan.

So, how many more of our rights do you want to erode because of your insecurities?

Is it time for a safe space?
Your logic is flawed. Your heart is in the right place but a few things to consider.

Who builds these fire arms body armor and what not? You think any politician knows how to run a mill, lathe, weld... etc. It shouldn't be their decision to tell those who produce these things who sell to. Look at the ones in the last 20 years committing the majority of these public mass shootings. Its mostly leftist wacko's and lately a lot of mentally ill sexually confused types. Virtually no one from the industry or community.

When you create something you have a respect and understanding for that creation. Someone who purchasing it likely doesn't possess that respect, in fact may have sinister motives. Those who are not respectful of it are going to be the ones who convince the politicians who are incapable of creating them to writing dumb fuck laws that do nothing but punish those with that respect and ability.

It is up to the community of respectful, who understand the how and why to look out for each other. I sure as fuck ain't trusting the government to do it. Historical all they have done is taken more and more.

So your willy nilly just sell to every nut case that want it is not conducive to being responsible and potentaily causing more problems, which could result in a complete loss of the industry. It is up to those with in the industry, not reliant on government oversight to protect said community.

Btw... its not infringing on 2A rights, its not coming from a government decree. Those people that want are more than free to take the time to learn how to produce these things on their own. Not selling to them, is NOT an infringement on their rights.
 
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Your logic is flawed. Your heart is in the right place but a few things to consider.

Who builds these fire arms body armor and what not? You think any politician knows how to run a mill, lathe, weld... etc. It shouldn't be their decision to tell those who produce these things who sell to. Look at the ones in the last 20 years committing the majority of these public mass shootings. Its mostly leftist wacko's and lately a lot of mentally ill sexually confused types. Virtually no one from the industry or community.

When you create something you have a respect and understanding for that creation. Someone who purchasing it likely doesn't possess that respect, in fact may have sinister motives. Those who are not respectful of it are going to be the ones who convince the politicians who are incapable of creating them to writing dumb fuck laws that do nothing but punish those with that respect and ability.

It is up to the community of respectful, who understand the how and why to look out for each other. I sure as fuck ain't trusting the government to do it. Historical all they have done is taken more and more.

So your willy nilly just sell to every nut case that want it is not conducive to being responsible and potentaily causing more problems, which could result in a complete loss of the industry. It is up to those with in the industry, not reliant on government oversight to protect said community.

Btw... its not infringing on 2A rights, its not coming from a government decree. Those people that want are more than free to take the time to learn how to produce these things on their own. Not selling to them, is NOT an infringement on their rights.
Just to be clear, you apply that to speech as well right? If twitter wants to kick people off because of their political affiliation or whatever they’re allowed because its not government, if hosting companies dont want to be associated with the Hide or payment processors dont want to take money from gun sales they’re within their rights since its not government?

I get real itchy when people start wanting to limit rights and make lists of people to keep around, most of my family has every since the 1930s. I can at least respect this approach a little more if it’s consistent, but if I go back through some forum histories I suspect at least some of the folks here in favor would also be caught out calling for legal action against companies that didn’t want certain media figures on their platform.
 
Your logic is flawed. Your heart is in the right place but a few things to consider.

Who builds these fire arms body armor and what not? You think any politician knows how to run a mill, lathe, weld... etc. It shouldn't be their decision to tell those who produce these things who sell to. Look at the ones in the last 20 years committing the majority of these public mass shootings. Its mostly leftist wacko's and lately a lot of mentally ill sexually confused types. Virtually no one from the industry or community.

When you create something you have a respect and understanding for that creation. Someone who purchasing it likely doesn't possess that respect, in fact may have sinister motives. Those who are not respectful of it are going to be the ones who convince the politicians who are incapable of creating them to writing dumb fuck laws that do nothing but punish those with that respect and ability.

It is up to the community of respectful, who understand the how and why to look out for each other. I sure as fuck ain't trusting the government to do it. Historical all they have done is taken more and more.

So your willy nilly just sell to every nut case that want it is not conducive to being responsible and potentaily causing more problems, which could result in a complete loss of the industry. It is up to those with in the industry, not reliant on government oversight to protect said community.

Btw... its not infringing on 2A rights, its not coming from a government decree. Those people that want are more than free to take the time to learn how to produce these things on their own. Not selling to them, is NOT an infringement on their rights.
Thanks for the reply and I hear what you’re saying.

I worked at a gun shop and had to refuse a few sales. Mostly due to failed background checks. Once a guy threw a bag of weed on the counter as he emptied his pockets when paying for a gun. We could only say, we don’t accept that as payment. He just walked away. Another guy was talking violent chit, probably joking, but we were unable to sell. We experienced no blowback from these incidents.

Seems risky for the shop and employees to refuse a sale, based on subjective feelings or a surprise social media check. Especially for items that don’t require a background check.

I don’t have any good answers.
 
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Just to be clear, you apply that to speech as well right? If twitter wants to kick people off because of their political affiliation or whatever they’re allowed because its not government, if hosting companies dont want to be associated with the Hide or payment processors dont want to take money from gun sales they’re within their rights since its not government?

I get real itchy when people start wanting to limit rights and make lists of people to keep around, most of my family has every since the 1930s. I can at least respect this approach a little more if it’s consistent, but if I go back through some forum histories I suspect at least some of the folks here in favor would also be caught out calling for legal action against companies that didn’t want certain media figures on their platform.
Twitter is free to do what they want with their product.

I never said shit about limiting rights with laws decreed by politicians . What I am saying is not selling some one something is not against any law and doesn’t violate any rights.

Those people are free to jump through the same hoops and go through effort the manufacturers have gone through to bring their product to market.

Why risk all that hard work on a sketchy fucker, thats going to cause problems. Fuck them!
 
Thanks for the reply and I hear what you’re saying.

I worked at a gun shop and had to refuse a few sales. Mostly due to failed background checks. Once a guy threw a bag of weed on the counter as he emptied his pockets when paying for a gun. We could only say, we don’t accept that as payment. He just walked away. Another guy was talking violent chit, probably joking, but we were unable to sell. We experienced no blowback from these incidents.

Seems risky for the shop and employees to refuse a sale, based on subjective feelings or a surprise social media check. Especially for items that don’t require a background check.

I don’t have any good answers.
Yeah its a tough situation, I don’t claim to have all the answers either, but it’s blatantly obvious the industry is in the cross hairs. And no one will save it but those who truly care about and have respect for it.
 
Twitter is free to do what they want with their product.

I never said shit about limiting rights with laws decreed by politicians . What I am saying is not selling some one something is not against any law and doesn’t violate any rights.

Those people are free to jump through the same hoops and go through effort the manufacturers have gone through to bring their product to market.

Why risk all that hard work on a sketchy fucker, thats going to cause problems. Fuck them!
Hey as long as you’re consistent I can respect it even if I disagree with it.
 
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Let the blue haired weirdos buy body armor if they want, doesnt do shit when they are shot in the fucking face or a knife slipped through the side of the ribcage or neck.
Even if armor saves thier life shot front on how many do you think have the nuts or guts to continue that fight?
Half of them dont even know what sex they are.