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And Pelosi or Feinstein dropped a hint today...a big one.

Exactly...If we are going to allow every and any illegal trespassers, as well as terrorists and other dangerous individuals to waltz right in and out as they please, we might as well turn the entire country into a den of pirates, mercenaries, desperados and cutthroats. Abolish the rule of law and hand over the reins to feudal warlords and mega-corporations.

Without secure borders, it will be inevitable that this country will be turned into a pirate's lair.

Without the 2nd Amendment, it will be inevitable that the next chapter of despotism and tyranny will be written here.
I’d much rather spend my time with pirates and mercs then with Democrats
 
I’d much rather spend my time with pirates and mercs then with Democrats

History has shown that the ones who commit the most evil.........are the ones who like to control how others live their lives.


Not. Another. Inch.
 
While I 1000% agree with him that the illegal immigration issue needs our country's full attention I have a great amount of concern over using a National Emergency Declaration to fund his wall project. It will give a future Democrat POTUS much more leverage, not only for using an NED for gun control/seizure operation but, for anything hair-brained bullshit thing they want to force on the people.
Make no mistake, Democrats are quickly redefining their party as Socialist. In my way of thinking, the seemingly never ending harassment of the Trumps and all their friends by the Mueller Regime has been one brick in the foundation of overthrowing the USA's long standing Democracy.
My hope is that, at the least, we will begin to see a movement within the party by those who are conservative/moderate leaning that will weaken the Democrats as a whole.

Yes. Today marks a literal day as representative of the downfall of the republic. It’s too far gone to save through regular channels. You have a couple of years to prepare. I’d say we all need to start forming groups and preparing for the worst.
 
I’d like to believe that but I just don’t know that there are many like us.


Perhaps. But then again...a landslide starts with a single pebble...

All it may take is one or two to stand, for the momentum start and to grow. (note my signature line)
 
In Trumps defense, he ain’t the first to do this.
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And how about the powers that congress has abrogated to unaccountable letter agencies that make regulation with the force of law?

or the Courts that now ignore Constitution and instead favor political party line?

Any issue there Hippy?
Yea, there is. Did you expect me to make a comprehensive list of grievances about our entire system of government?
 
Sign bill declare emergency

Deep state takes him to court to stop him

Trump continues with his plan in spite of an unconstitutional court involvement

SCOTUS intervenes and backs up lower court because they cant read a fucing Constitution either

Trump orders Army to build wall
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Congress, both Repubs (Cheap labor) and Dems (Voting Slaves) move to overrule Trump,

Trump disbands them and locks them inside the house and senate buildings

NY and Cali, evict all Fed Mil forces

Texas welcomes the convoys of Fed Mil

Sides are taken - Chicago, NYC and Cali form a Confederation that stretches from NoVa to the southern border of Maine

Trump calls for defense of the republic by all Americans

Cities of Chicago and NYC surrounded along the interstate bypasses and outer loops as the nogo zones

California Isolated along border with Mexico by Marines until they cant handle the skinny jean people then by the Army

Trump orders arrests of all rebels and execution of their leaders

Army gets pissed and kills eveyone in the kill zones

CNN complains then gets hit with a volley of MLRS rockets, no more complaining propaganda
Is it wrong I got an erection reading that?
 
Well its not a hint they want to take away your rights . Its never been a hidden that dims and many reps don't want people armed , and the spineless reps agree with them or do nothing to stop them . It's not a surprise or something new , its been going on for a long time . I see it like the clan in the 50's the worst enemy of the clan was the clan like the dems every time they talk they just spew out crazier and crazier thoughts and sooner or later sooner i hope they will stick there foot in too deep. like that green deal that closes everything , eliminating all jobs , all homes all personal wealth all cars , really no buses planes , and or shipping , not to mention no power , who besides a 9 year old would want that or accept tearing down every building in the country to make them greener who could pay for that . So I'll just keep looking for and buying what i want for now and hoarding ammo while prices are good and have fun till something or someone stops me . God bless America
 
Sign bill declare emergency

Deep state takes him to court to stop him

Trump continues with his plan in spite of an unconstitutional court involvement

SCOTUS intervenes and backs up lower court because they cant read a fucing Constitution either

Trump orders Army to build wall
l
Congress, both Repubs (Cheap labor) and Dems (Voting Slaves) move to overrule Trump,

Trump disbands them and locks them inside the house and senate buildings

NY and Cali, evict all Fed Mil forces

Texas welcomes the convoys of Fed Mil

Sides are taken - Chicago, NYC and Cali form a Confederation that stretches from NoVa to the southern border of Maine

Trump calls for defense of the republic by all Americans

Cities of Chicago and NYC surrounded along the interstate bypasses and outer loops as the nogo zones

California Isolated along border with Mexico by Marines until they cant handle the skinny jean people then by the Army

Trump orders arrests of all rebels and execution of their leaders

Army gets pissed and kills eveyone in the kill zones

CNN complains then gets hit with a volley of MLRS rockets, no more complaining propaganda
Damn AJ if you’d take sams advice on spelling you’d make a good author. If I’d been in the woods a week I woulda thought I missed something major reading that.
 
All the Dems need is; FOR GOOD MEN TO DO NOTHING!
Nailed it . I talked with some pro gun lobbyists and they both stated that our elected tell them that they don't hear from the gun owners . Our elected get swarmed by Every town and Moms Demand Action but nothing from gun owners . IIRC last year the NRA spent $95 lobbying in Pennsylvania . I spent three times that in gas going to rallies . You need to show up to rallies . You need to make a sign up that says
Joe Blow ( actual elected's name ) you are my ( Rep . Councilman , Congressman ) .
You need to be aeen and heard . You need to bring friends . Five hundred people is ok but five thousand people peacefully disrupt the daily functions of Capitol Police , traffic , local businesses and governement offices . Form letters don't work . You need to be seen and heard . If you don't go to at least one rally this year then you have no right to bitch . Nope there is no argument . The Continental Army did not ait on their asses and bitch . The Continental Congress did not sit on their asses and bitch . Patrick Henry , John Adams , George Washington , Paul Revere , Thomas Jefferson , Michael Murphy , Tyrone Woods , Audie Murphy . How many names and faces of men who acted and men who died or qere willing to die do you need to see . And you can't even drive to a rally qith a buddy or two . You do not deserve the right to bitch if you are not willing to do the work . Tell me one thing in life that does not require constant vigilance and work . Your job . Your kids . You'll frive four hours for a ; basebal/softball/football game , playoff or tournemant . Drive or even fly for a hunt . Bust your ass to buy a ring , car , furniture , vacation , patio set or whatever it is that will make the girl you love happy . You'll listen to her when you'd rather do anything else . You will console , praise , affirm and lie when you'd rather slap and say suck it up . You will cancel family plans work 36 hours straight to achieve the unachievable for your employer . How in the fuck do you not be seen and heard for you Constitutional Rights . In one breath you acknowledge your reading and understanding of the Founders intent and instructions and in the same breath parse some crap who's weakness defies description and whose merit would not pass muster even with your enemy . There are alot of Noble Honorable Men here . If you choose to not be seen or heard that is your choice as is the outcome of your choice . But I respectfully ask that you do not insult those that would stand and be seen . Those that would stand and be heard . With argument or excuse for your inaction .

Alphatreedog. Patriot. American
 
Government went awry centuries ago, we now live with people who want open borders and embrace everything opposite of what the norm use to be.Lincoln abolished slavery but no one was able to see that everyone became slaves to the 535 law makers.They over tax you, you must abide by their laws which they pull out their asses and if you challenge them you wind up penniless and in prison. Only the 535 can break their own laws which makes them rich more of your money into their pockets. I believe writing letters to these 535 politicians to plead and beg them to let you keep your arms is ridiculous, doing so empowers these politicians confirming that the sheep are weaker then they even imagine.

What the 2nd Amendment has become in reality :

" A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Pens, shall not be infringed."

How much longer before AOC adds to her New Green Deal your guns which like farting cows are harmful to their environment .

We have be reduced to living room gun toting Patriots all 100 million of us, scared to death by to old bags Pelosi and Feinstein.

Let me be the first to apologize posthumously to the Founding Fathers for our failures and lack of duty preserving the Republic.
 
We are buying more guns and ammo, preparing for the day they make their declaration of emergency against the Constitution and strip us of our rights,,then its game on... I suggest all that read this forum,,, #1 if you are LEO, you need to decide ahead of time if you will be a door kicker or a protector of the Republic,,, you need to get that straight in your head and thinking today, identify fellow defenders in your department quietly and make a decision,,, for the rest of us,, buy ammo and guns , train with like minded people and neighbors today, stay vigilant and get your head straight and be ready for 1775 -1790 tough times... decide and prepare now...

Lowers on sale at Primary arms btw...

watch and pay attention to who is who today because they will be joining the cause of the republic or they will continue with the globalist enemies..

DC is not a friend of America,,, not at all... they are all globalists who get rich off our labor and off subjugation of our poor in particular..

In the end the American people, the same who had the awakening in 2016 have been preparing for a civil war since about the time the first Tea Party protest happened during GW Bushes treasonous presidency... they are not sitting idly by but preparing for a very very bad war,, just like our founders did in the 1760's and 1770's.

Hopefully Trump implodes them..

That's what we currently do, unless you count bitching as a KB commando. Thomas Jefferson is proud of us I bet.....
 
I send my elected Representatives emails about the issues. I have let them know that they were elected to defend the Constitution and represent the people's will and not their own. They should not have to be begged, cajoled, see parades or picket lines to do what they were hired to do.
I do understand that they are influenced more by lobbyist and political pac money. So to waste time away from my family to no avail??
 
We are buying more guns and ammo, preparing for the day they make their declaration of emergency against the Constitution and strip us of our rights,,then its game on... I suggest all that read this forum,,, #1 if you are LEO, you need to decide ahead of time if you will be a door kicker or a protector of the Republic,,, you need to get that straight in your head and thinking today, identify fellow defenders in your department quietly and make a decision,,, for the rest of us,, buy ammo and guns , train with like minded people and neighbors today, stay vigilant and get your head straight and be ready for 1775 -1790 tough times... decide and prepare now...

Lowers on sale at Primary arms btw...

watch and pay attention to who is who today because they will be joining the cause of the republic or they will continue with the globalist enemies..

DC is not a friend of America,,, not at all... they are all globalists who get rich off our labor and off subjugation of our poor in particular..

In the end the American people, the same who had the awakening in 2016 have been preparing for a civil war since about the time the first Tea Party protest happened during GW Bushes treasonous presidency... they are not sitting idly by but preparing for a very very bad war,, just like our founders did in the 1760's and 1770's.

Hopefully Trump implodes them..

Just by participating on forums such as this one, we are already doing a significant part in educating and spreading awareness to the general public.

Everybody is able to view these boards, and the content within. Not just us gunnies sittin' around this bar counter. Lurkers, passerby, maybe a junior high student doing a "current events" assignment on gun control and just happened to stumble upon this site. That is why I not only try my best to post meaningful conversations, but also try to deliver as much educational value as possible. People read stuff like this and I would prefer that they walk away from here feeling the need to know more and think critically, not just going by what the media and public figures tell them. Bonus points if they decide they want to become rifle shooters too and join the campfire.

I have already made up my mind, long time ago, that when the time comes to openly fight for the future of justice and liberty, I am not going to be a summer soldier or sunshine patriot. I will face the bayonets at Breed's Hill and tough out the winter mud and ice at Valley Forge, alongside fellow brothers in arms.

Buying (and reloading) more ammo.
 
I hope it comes in the next election cycle,, I am getting old and dont want to leave for my kids to handle... but then agian I am almost done with my bucket list........so no fucks left

is it no fucks left, or no fucks given. Ur right either way. I'm pissed that Trump didn't stand up to them this last week like he said he was. Folks don't seem to remember when he signed the last bill, he told the American people he would never sign that bad of bill again. Looks like he's not a man of his word.
 
I send my elected Representatives emails about the issues. I have let them know that they were elected to defend the Constitution and represent the people's will and not their own. They should not have to be begged, cajoled, see parades or picket lines to do what they were hired to do.
I do understand that they are influenced more by lobbyist and political pac money. So to waste time away from my family to no avail??
It is your duty to be civicly active . If you choose to not participate and abdicate your Freedom thru inaction that is your choice . Kindly spare the argument . You would spend time hunting , fishing , drinking beer with friends , all away from family . NASCAR trip with the boys . Working your dog in Field trials , whatever . Fail to be seen and heard and uou abdicate your families Freedoms also . I cannot understand how one digs in their heals in defense of inaction . The Paradox is quite mind numbing . If you won't spend a day at a rally at the expense of gas , food and time how is it people type away about how they are gonna be all OAF when the time comes . Instead of defending your Freedoms your defending a position of inaction .
 
My Rep lives a couple miles down the street from me. My business has done work at his house. I have his personal cell phone number. I have had extensive conversation with him.
Me going to Washington and parading around holding signs. Not gonna do it.
My senators are Lamar Alexander and Marsha Blackburn. Lamar is done after this term. He knows he won't get reelected. He is bought and paid for by the deep pockets in DC. He doesn't give a rats ass what I or anyone else thinks.
Blackburn was just elected. She voted for the crap last week. I emailed before and said that she should be against it. I emailed her after she voted and told her she is a POS and I will vote against her from now on. I will do my best to to unseat her
It is your duty to be civicly active . If you choose to not participate and abdicate your Freedom thru inaction that is your choice . Kindly spare the argument . You would spend time hunting , fishing , drinking beer with friends , all away from family . NASCAR trip with the boys . Working your dog in Field trials , whatever . Fail to be seen and heard and uou abdicate your families Freedoms also . I cannot understand how one digs in their heals in defense of inaction . The Paradox is quite mind numbing . If you won't spend a day at a rally at the expense of gas , food and time how is it people type away about how they are gonna be all OAF when the time comes . Instead of defending your Freedoms your defending a position of inaction .
 
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I bet you ass gets put on another watch list if you tell your rep your concerns, no matter how genteel... its a high probability that your rep will be on the globalists side when they issue their Order,,, gather info on the other side limit the info you share with them, unless its part of operation chaos...
 
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My Rep lives a couple miles down the street from me. My business has done work at his house. I have his personal cell phone number. I have had extensive conversation with him.
Me going to Washington and parading around holding signs. Not gonna do it.
My senators are Lamar Alexander and Marsha Blackburn. Lamar is done after this term. He knows he won't get reelected. He is bought and paid for by the deep pockets in DC. He doesn't give a rats ass what I or anyone else thinks.
Blackburn was just elected. She voted for the crap last week. I emailed before and said that she should be against it. I emailed her after she voted and told her she is a POS and I will vote against her from now on. I will do my best to to unseat her
I apologize in that Imean statet rallies .And it sounds as though you have one of your Reps. ears . Still I cannot stress enough that it is more than voting. . Let me ask you a question. Did the War for Independence permanently secure Freedom ? How about the War of 1812 ? WWII ? Our answer to 911 . The fight for Freedom will never end . We are required as citizens to do our part . Would it kill you to go to one Pro IIA rally a year ? We did not vote away WWII or England twice or any other threat to our Freedoms .
 
My Rep lives a couple miles down the street from me. My business has done work at his house. I have his personal cell phone number. I have had extensive conversation with him.
Me going to Washington and parading around holding signs. Not gonna do it.
My senators are Lamar Alexander and Marsha Blackburn. Lamar is done after this term. He knows he won't get reelected. He is bought and paid for by the deep pockets in DC. He doesn't give a rats ass what I or anyone else thinks.
Blackburn was just elected. She voted for the crap last week. I emailed before and said that she should be against it. I emailed her after she voted and told her she is a POS and I will vote against her from now on. I will do my best to to unseat her

Problem is, one termers or not, many of them do unreversible damage when they are in office if even only for one term. The goal is to keep them out altogether.
 
Molon labe.

If there is a US President that declares a national emergency and attempts to disarm the populace, yes, we will have a Revolution.

Not a bad thing.

"What country can preserve it’s liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance? let them take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them. what signify a few lives lost in a century or two? the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is it’s natural manure."


- Thomas Jefferson, 1787
Excerpt from Thomas Jefferson to William Stephens Smith
 
Same story in many states, in Illinois we feel like the poster child for this.
They figured out as more illegals poured in, along with already blue concentrations, the cities would dictate offices and policy.
As a large protion are concentrating in the larger cities in each state.

R

I’m across the river in Suburban St. Louis. Come on over. We are the anti IL
 
Call me naive, but I don't see my local PD enforcing any presidential emergency bullshit that takes guns out of the homes of law-abiding residents. I somewhat keep an ear to the ground about them and I actually think they're a decent cop shop all things considered. They don't really go around fucking with people for no reason at all or using excessive force. I live basically where it transitions from VA to "parts of VA inhabited by DCers", half the reason I moved where I live now is because literally the other side of a mountain is blue blood territory all the way to Canada. You get a lot of the gentrified gun owners around here because of that, though. Folks that just want to make a good living and leave the bullshit the rest of the nation can't stop screwing up alone. That said, in ten years when it's a bunch of fresh younger guys raised by the guns-are-bad federal tiddy I will worry.
 
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wear masks when attending rally's or protest, and attend well armed
Call me old school but good guys don't fucking wear masks! Cops wearing them, just reinforces my views of the old days where only bad guys wear masks,... The first time I seen guys wearing masks an hoods across the pond in 94 the only thing that stopped me an another asshole from shooting them was we could not get the fucking zipper on the bask of the seat opened fast enough before the driver turned the corner a kicked that suburban into afterburner. Fuck masks,... good guys don't hide, period. An guys don't even start with the fucking excuses, I've heard them all.
 
agree but they are taking pics and will come after you and yours... dont make it easy, fight fire with fire

Call me old school but good guys don't fucking wear masks! Cops wearing them, just reinforces my views of the old days where only bad guys wear masks,... The first time I seen guys wearing masks an hoods across the pond in 94 the only thing that stopped me an another asshole from shooting them was we could not get the fucking zipper on the bask of the seat opened fast enough before the driver turned the corner a kicked that suburban into afterburner. Fuck masks,... good guys don't hide, period. An guys don't even start with the fucking excuses, I've heard them all.
 
Call me old school but good guys don't fucking wear masks! Cops wearing them, just reinforces my views of the old days where only bad guys wear masks,... The first time I seen guys wearing masks an hoods across the pond in 94 the only thing that stopped me an another asshole from shooting them was we could not get the fucking zipper on the bask of the seat opened fast enough before the driver turned the corner a kicked that suburban into afterburner. Fuck masks,... good guys don't hide, period. An guys don't even start with the fucking excuses, I've heard them all.

There is no doubt in my mind that I'd be pushed out of my job if I were seen at a 2A rally. That said, if I wore a hoodlum mask and got revealed I'd be outright fired. I agree with your feelings regarding masked groups, it's even a perversion of the accountability you should display at any protest or rally. You go to be seen and have a voice, and fucking own it.

So insult me for being a selfish stick in the mud and you'd be right, at the moment I have too much to lose and/or throw away. Call me when the real party starts and I'll wear my birthday suit for all I care, willing to wear my actions and be accountable for a lifetime, but we're not at that point.
 
I agree with you two in principal on masks, you should read about the last 6 months of Che's life and how they got him and his followers,,, dirty wars are getting ready to be joined,,, I say joined because the communists are already wearing masks and getting away with literal murder with our two tiered justice system...Read about successful put downs of communist insurgencies,,, that is what we are in for,,, steel yourselves...
 
Counter Insurgency warfare, and deposing communist globalists will be a task on the same level as the first revolution... mark my words here, Buy the Army handbooks, buy history books on dirty wars,, real history not that shit they teach in indoc camps we call universities,,, prepare

I joke around here a lot,, but on this subject I am well studied and don't joke at all. Many here have see what happens when a country reverts to internecine fighting,,, nobody has seen what its like when a rich well armed country does it,,, Beirut is the closest I can offer and that was small...
 
I have no illusions about whats coming an know in my heart this is why my Grandfather, Father, an many other kin folk instilled in us to be self reliant with life skill sets. The thing I hate the most is the children that are going to get caught up in it. They never did anything to warrant going threw or being a part of what coming. Then again we had a generation that never knew life w/o the depression, quickly followed by WW II which ended many of those young lives. My Great uncle used this saying alot when things went to shit, "Sometimes you have to harden your heart an do whats required". I think he had more long term vision, than I gave him as a kid.