Anneal before or after sizing?
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Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
I would think B4.
At least that makes sense to me.
Annealing may alter your previous sizing work.
I would think B4.
At least that makes sense to me.
Annealing may alter your previous sizing work.
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
B4. Cause I need to clean the neck inside and out after annealing. Then size and trim. Then Polish the inside of the neck and deburr. Then load and not do it again for 4 to 6 loadings. JMHO
B4. Cause I need to clean the neck inside and out after annealing. Then size and trim. Then Polish the inside of the neck and deburr. Then load and not do it again for 4 to 6 loadings. JMHO
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think B4.
At least that makes sense to me.
Annealing may alter your previous sizing work.</div></div>
I don't have an annealer yet but this makes sense to me also. Watch us both be wrong, but I doubt it. Sizing is one of the biggest contributors to work hardening so it doesn't make sense to resize first. You want to get the proper neck tension by annealing and getting them softer so they retain there shape if I understand the process correctly.
When they become work hardened, they become springy and don't retain there shape after resizing. After being squeezed down by the die, they spring back open a little when pulled back out of the die, giving you inconsistent neck tension. Especially less neck tension in varying degrees.
God I hope I'm not wrong or the more experienced (old guys) are going to eat me up.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I would think B4.
At least that makes sense to me.
Annealing may alter your previous sizing work.</div></div>
I don't have an annealer yet but this makes sense to me also. Watch us both be wrong, but I doubt it. Sizing is one of the biggest contributors to work hardening so it doesn't make sense to resize first. You want to get the proper neck tension by annealing and getting them softer so they retain there shape if I understand the process correctly.
When they become work hardened, they become springy and don't retain there shape after resizing. After being squeezed down by the die, they spring back open a little when pulled back out of the die, giving you inconsistent neck tension. Especially less neck tension in varying degrees.
God I hope I'm not wrong or the more experienced (old guys) are going to eat me up.
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
I aneal after sizing. The heat from the torch burns up the the carbon and graphite residue in the neck and would create more drag on the expander button. Doing it this way eliminates the need to lube the inside of the necks and cuts down on the need to trimm strechtched or lengthend necks. If you neck size only, it doesnt matter.
I aneal after sizing. The heat from the torch burns up the the carbon and graphite residue in the neck and would create more drag on the expander button. Doing it this way eliminates the need to lube the inside of the necks and cuts down on the need to trimm strechtched or lengthend necks. If you neck size only, it doesnt matter.
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
Annealing before or after sizing isn't a complex thing, both work and it makes no difference at all IF we tumble (as we should) after the annealing. Tumbling cleans up both the inside and outside quite nicely BEFORE any attempt to either resize OR reload.
Annealing before or after sizing isn't a complex thing, both work and it makes no difference at all IF we tumble (as we should) after the annealing. Tumbling cleans up both the inside and outside quite nicely BEFORE any attempt to either resize OR reload.
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I have a friend who offers both ultrasonic cleaning and annealing at very nice prices.
DJ's Brass Restoration
I only have a lowly Hornady annealing kit.
I have a friend who offers both ultrasonic cleaning and annealing at very nice prices.
DJ's Brass Restoration
I only have a lowly Hornady annealing kit.
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been tumbling, annealing, then sizing. I like having the case completely clean when annealing - it makes it easier for me to see when the neck reaches the right temp. </div></div> I 2nd this
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MDM</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been tumbling, annealing, then sizing. I like having the case completely clean when annealing - it makes it easier for me to see when the neck reaches the right temp. </div></div> I 2nd this
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I clean, anneal and then size </div></div>
+2
easier on the brass this way
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I clean, anneal and then size </div></div>
+2
easier on the brass this way
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there is allways something to learn. now, i got to start annealing my brass.
there is allways something to learn. now, i got to start annealing my brass.
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
Before. The resizing operation will render better results when starting with the softer brass.
Before. The resizing operation will render better results when starting with the softer brass.
Re: Anneal before or after sizing?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HBARLeatherneck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is allways something to learn. now, i got to start annealing my brass. </div></div>
Its a little bit tricky when you first start out. My advice, do a lot of reading and make sure you have a solid understanding of the process involved.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: HBARLeatherneck</div><div class="ubbcode-body">there is allways something to learn. now, i got to start annealing my brass. </div></div>
Its a little bit tricky when you first start out. My advice, do a lot of reading and make sure you have a solid understanding of the process involved.
