Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

LoneWolfUSMC

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#1
I am almost done with the AR10. I just need a barrel for it.

I know there are several Noveske users out there. Has anyone been dissatisfied with theirs?

I am not looking for a bughole shooter. No match chambers, or other craziness. I need something that is going to eat shit and smile and function 100% with FGMM, TAP, and M118LR. 1 to 3/4 MOA is acceptable.

I really don't care about the button v. cut v. hammer v. whatever debate. It shoots or it don't.

I am going to call Noveske tomorrow and see what's up with their wait time or if they have barrels in stock.

I am really just teetering on Noveske or GAP. GAP has given me their quote, now I need to see what the damage for a Noveske will be.
 
#2
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

yeah, i am putting noveske on my 5.56 builds i'm doin right now, interested to see what people's opinions on them are. if i was building ar10's there would probably be some noveske barrels on their way to me for that too but sadly i have dpms uppers and lowers so GAP will most likely be what i go with (not sadly just more expensive, but you get what you pay for from what i've heard).
 
#3
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

I have several Noveske 5.56 barrels. They are great. I have two 12.5 inch AR15 barrels that as accurate out to 100 yds as any 16 inch barrel. Noveske would be my first choice for a AR-10 barrel.
 
#4
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I am almost done with the AR10. I just need a barrel for it.

I am really just teetering on Noveske or GAP. GAP has given me their quote, now I need to see what the damage for a Noveske will be.</div></div>

First off, I am not a Noveske shooter so my opinion may not mean anything for what you are looking for; however, I do have a GAP installed Bartlein barrel on my SASS and I can tell you without a doubt that it will exceed your requirements of 3/4 MOA with the ammunition that you speak of. I also sent it to them for rebarreling and had it back in less then two weeks. I was astounded at that. I am also sure Noveske makes a nice barrel as they have a great reputation too. I am more then sure they both will meet your needs.

sounds like a nice build. Have fun with it.
 
#5
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

Don't know what length barrel your looking for but, Fulton has Krieger barrels and 762 sass has Armalite barrels for sale.

I'm doing the same thing right now and I'm going to have GAP make me Tight bore 18" Bartlein barrel for mine.

Also I believe Rock Creek has some blanks for sale here in the vender area that would need cut crowned and chambered.

Edit to add, not sure on how up to date Novenske"s site is, but the only list 16" 7.62 barrels for sale.

 
#6
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

Looking for the 18-20" range.

I would still like to be able to engage 1000 yard targets for fun, but I frequently find myself creeping within 50-70 yards of an objective. I want to be able to swing the rifle and use it like an AR if I need to.

I have been stressing that a .308 in the hand beats a .45 on the hip. A magazine fed, semi-auto .308 is even better if I happen to round the corner to see the BG has gone mobile.
 
#7
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The Noveske are great ! I had to wait couple of months to get my AR10 upper from them but it was during the Obama craze.

You will be pleased. Post pictures when your rig is done
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#9
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have been stressing that a .308 in the hand <span style="font-weight: bold">beats a .45 on the hip</span>. A magazine fed, semi-auto .308 is even better if I happen to round the corner to see the BG has gone mobile.
</div></div>Well at 50-70 yards a 45 can still be very effective - but the 308 has a little more knock down
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Here are some 45s (not mine) to keep you busy:

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TOP ROW: Springfield TRP, Springfield GI, Springfield TGO1, Infinity custom build, Para GI Expert, Para 1911 Limited, Sig STX, Dan Wesson Valor, Dan Wesson CBOB

SECOND ROW: Thompson Custom 1911, Auto Ordnance GI, Colt Commander XSE, Colt Special Combat Government, Colt Gold Cup, Nighthawk Predator II, Nighthawk Enforcer, Pistol Dynamics custom build, Taurus PT 1911

THIRD ROW: Les Baer SRP, Les Baer Concept V, Ed Brown Classic Custom, Ed Brown Kobra Carry, Firestorm DLX, Rock Island Armory GI, Norinco GI, Smith & Wesson SW1911, Smith & Wesson PC1911

FOURTH ROW: Volkmann Combat Custom, Kimber Pro CDP II, Kimber Custom II, Kimber Super Match II, Yost custom build, AMT Hardballer, Unertl DLX, Ithaca USGI, Remington Rand USGI,

BOTTOM ROW: Charles Daly EFS, Wilson Super Grade, Wilson CQB, Detonics ServiceMaster, Rock River Arms Limited Match, STI Trojan, STI Spartan, STI Legacy, Fusion Commander Elite
 
#10
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barr

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Looking for the 18-20" range.

I would still like to be able to engage 1000 yard targets for fun, but I frequently find myself creeping within 50-70 yards of an objective. I want to be able to swing the rifle and use it like an AR if I need to.

I have been stressing that a .308 in the hand beats a .45 on the hip. A magazine fed, semi-auto .308 is even better if I happen to round the corner to see the BG has gone mobile.
</div></div>

If you would do 16" here is one in stock at Rainier
 
#11
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the .45. I carry a G21SF at work and a 1911 Combat Commander everywhere else.

It's just that if I am going to shoot something, no matter what the range, I want to make sure it goes down and stays down. A major caliber rifle round makes that a higher probability.
 
#12
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of the .45. I carry a G21SF at work and a 1911 Combat Commander everywhere else.

It's just that if I am going to shoot something, no matter what the range, I want to make sure it goes down and stays down. A major caliber rifle round makes that a higher probability. </div></div>I agree - I was just giving you a hard time. You have to expect that from us 1911 fans.
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However, I practice with a 1911 at 50 yards often. I use to shoot bullseye comps with some 1911s, so ...
 
#13
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

LW I'm running a noveske 21" build (M118LR chamber), accuracy-wise it is more than doing its job, from cleaning the 5 plates at 600 stage at R.0. to hits at 1050 at tiger valley. But having had failures with OTHER rifles at comps what i am most impressed with is the reliability, other than the one time i shot it filthy...in a downpour... I have never seen it fail. recently i started running it suppressed even though i'm not really set up for it(no adj gas block)and still no failures. (I've put as much as 130 rounds a session with the can and have seen 0 failures.)

* i think there is a way to make it run in the rain...anyone have any fixes/greases /magic potions?
 
#15
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I have had both gap and noveske, and both shoot damn well...that being said, I am running a noveske now, for both cost and it was available at the time...

here is the pic of my Noveske set up:
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#16
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it would Short cycle/ftf. nothing terrible happened (no double feed) but i was reduced to bolt gun status. the mixture of carbon oil and water made for a nasty paste, perhaps a light grease would have been in order. since that experience however i have become more versed in AR10 janitorial procedures, mainly keeping the bolt/bolt tail and carrier clean. the lugs/chamber need love too but nothing seems to shut the 10 down like excessive carbon in the bolt tail/and carrier. (prevents rotation of the bolt) mind you there was quite a bit of water getting into the action that day im not sure if anything will make an ar10 run in those conditions. I was trying to shoot 100 rounds in the rain, call out conditions you are probably O.K. i remember the first 40-50 rounds or so were trouble free. theres only one way to find out
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#19
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ckirkc</div><div class="ubbcode-body">mind you there was quite a bit of water getting into the action that day im not sure if anything will make an ar10 run in those conditions. </div></div>

sounds like it may be under-gassed. Awhile back I went to a class that should have required a SCUBA tank. There were two brand new M110's on the line. Once a bad mag was identified they didn't have any issues with the rain.

I have also run M4's and M16's in conditions that would make you cry.

While on a callout I may only have to fire one or two rounds, in training we may fire a
couple hundred in a day. We train rain or shine so it's got to work.
 
#20
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+1 on Noveske. I've been running a 14.5" 5.56 on my entry gun and it runs flawlessly. I jumped on a bench one day to test an aimpoint and shot three rounds into the same hole. Granted it was only 25 yards. I'm a fan.
 
#23
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barrel?

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What problems were you having in the rain?

I absolutely have to have reliable foul-weather function. Rain is a fact of life here and if the weather can suck on a callout it does. </div></div>

i have ran my mk11 in some rain storms that would make you start building an ark.

i think you'd be hard pressed to go wrong with either.
 
#24
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i cant say much about the barrels Noveske puts out. but i can say something about the man. i meet for the first time at the local range there in Grants Pass while i was shooting. here was doing a Video for a set up he makes for M249's. and had forgot to bring M16 mags. he asked if he could use some of mine so he wouldnt have to drive back to his shop. i didnt know who he was at the time. but after talking with him, i asked is i could see his shop. later in the week he was kind enough to give a tour. from my short interation with him i can say he takes what he does seriously, and he build some things for some very serious people out in the world. if he feels he's not making the best, we'll find out how to and do it! he will only make quality for you. be you a couch commando, or a trigger puller in places few want to go! only the finest come out of men like him.
 
#25
Re: Anyone Dissatisfied with a Noveske 7.62mm barr

I had an 18" barrel on my first AR10 and I can say without a doubt that they are very good, far exceeded my expectations, easy 1/2 MOA and did really well even at 8,9, and 1000yds. You may have to use factory ammo or harder brass, when I first started loading for it, had primers popping out due to using Federal soft brass. Changed to LC and problem fixed!! Shot suppressed also and had really good results, ran about 98% with minor malfunctions such as failure to extract. Malfunctions were mainly due to not enough lubrication, you have to lube the carrier and bolt real well to keep it running suppressed. I am building another and will definately put a Noveske on it again.
 
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Boris</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> i asked is i could see his shop. later in the week he was kind enough to give a tour. </div></div>

Lucky you. He is not big on people even knowing where his shop is. I have heard some funny stories about folks in GP getting freaked out by seeing him ride around on his little Honda moped with rifle slung on his back.

USMC - call them up. I had reason to be there a couple months ago and in the course of conversation I was told that a switch block was in the works for 7.62. I have a switch block 5.56 upper - very nice when shooting suppressed. His 5.56 barrels are very accurate - from what I have experienced.

Good luck
 
#28
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Doc1911</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here are some 45s (not mine) to keep you busy</div></div>
Well Doc no matter who owns them that is quite a collection. I am guessing someone else noted that that is really 45 1911s. Its almost like gun nut modern art making some kind of subliminal message, and I love it!

GM
 
#29
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Mo_Zam_Beek</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I had reason to be there a couple months ago and in the course of conversation I was told that a switch block was in the works for 7.62. </div></div>

Spoke with them today. The 7.62 switchblock is still about six months out. Barrels should be in sometime this month.

Now I have a problem. I was going to do a 18" barrel. However the 18" barrel uses the carbine gas system. This would place the gas block under my handguard. If I want to use the switchblock when it's available I will have to go with the 21" barrel. Not a big deal since we are only talking about 3" of barrel, but I was hoping to mess with some folks here who still believe that longer is more accurate.
 
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