Anyone thinking of moving from their blue state to a more Free Red state?

My problem is, there is not a whiter and greener (as in forests) state to move to. I hate this states politics and economy but I love the land and many of the people including family and friends...

Wife and I have talked about moving but wouldn't know where to go.
 
My problem is, there is not a whiter and greener (as in forests) state to move to. I hate this states politics and economy but I love the land and many of the people including family and friends...

Wife and I have talked about moving but wouldn't know where to go.
I really love Maine. Lobsterfest, blueberry pie, the lakes, coast, Scandinavian-type summer, nice people.

But then there are the druggies, hippies, leftists, and leeches on society who infect Portland.

Kids are very impressionable and can get off the conservative path very quickly in their teens with all the bad influences that show up in schools and social crowds there. I saw it ruin several lives, including one acquaintance who I heard later OD’d on heroin. He spent years taking LSD prior to that, in large doses, had dreads, no personal hygiene, and very delayed responses.
 
I really love Maine. Lobsterfest, blueberry pie, the lakes, coast, Scandinavian-type summer, nice people.

But then there are the druggies, hippies, leftists, and leeches on society who infect Portland.

Kids are very impressionable and can get off the conservative path very quickly in their teens with all the bad influences that show up in schools and social crowds there. I saw it ruin several lives, including one acquaintance who I heard later OD’d on heroin. He spent years taking LSD prior to that, in large doses, had dreads, no personal hygiene, and very delayed responses.
Portland is easy to avoid for those of us in the mid and northern part of the state, but Bangor is also a shithole. Just a smaller more tolerable one. The only good part about where I live now is I can drive less than 10 minutes and be in rural peace.

Part of our issue the current housing prices are absolutely insane. Everything is at least double what it's worth. Really hoping the housing market falls flat on its face soon. If we had our own place we would be much much better off.

I mention the state being on of the Whitest but the reality is I'm seeing foreigner ESLs everywhere in the Bangor area now. How? Why? There is nothing for anyone here and zero reason for anyone, even from another state to come here unless they're doing it only because the state is still over 90% White and something around 90% forested.
 
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I lived in Camden, which was a great little coastal town. They filmed Man Without a Face when I was there.

Such a great place that would be awesome for families to raise kids there with all the nature, outdoors, scenery, and trees.

Lots of Massholes move up there to ruin it in retirement, and the leftist infection of course has not spared the universities, colleges, and schools.

I worked for a guy whose family had their own 700 acre island off the coast of Lincolnville. Such a beautiful place with many fond memories. I really enjoyed my time there, but the winter was brutal as anyone can attest. Deep freeze, wet, icy.
 
I was just telling my kids the other day how you can taste the colors of the trees changing in fall with your eyes. Maine is the most amazing place I’ve seen for the fall, hands-down. I spent a lot of time in this harbor in the park and shops, walking around, climbing Mount Battie, and just getting real familiar with the area by walking everywhere for a summer, fall, and winter.

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Portland is easy to avoid for those of us in the mid and northern part of the state, but Bangor is also a shithole. Just a smaller more tolerable one. The only good part about where I live now is I can drive less than 10 minutes and be in rural peace.

Part of our issue the current housing prices are absolutely insane. Everything is at least double what it's worth. Really hoping the housing market falls flat on its face soon. If we had our own place we would be much much better off.

I mention the state being on of the Whitest but the reality is I'm seeing foreigner ESLs everywhere in the Bangor area now. How? Why? There is nothing for anyone here and zero reason for anyone, even from another state to come here unless they're doing it only because the state is still over 90% White and something around 90% forested.
I dont remember if it was Portland, or Seattle, but one of them proposed an new law requiring every new home to allow a 10" strip in front of it for the homeless to camp on.

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I was just telling my kids the other day how you can taste the colors of the trees changing in fall with your eyes. Maine is the most amazing place I’ve seen for the fall, hands-down. I spent a lot of time in this harbor in the park and shops, walking around, climbing Mount Battie, and just getting real familiar with the area by walking everywhere for a summer, fall, and winter.

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It really is. My thought when I visited was "the pictures dont do it justice."