So Is anyone using Midwest MP 450 powder in a 223, or really in anything?
Good, bad or ugly? Stuff is cheap enough but there are no reviews that I can find.
Good, bad or ugly? Stuff is cheap enough but there are no reviews that I can find.
Accuracy was very good in my bolt gun, although that particular rifle shoots most everything well. Now that I have some data I will test it in a gasser and see what it will do.So what do you think? Worth buying?
Indications are this will be good powder. I wonder just how long prices on ammo and components will moderate and intend to buy more then I need at this price. The three lowest price powders for AR's on Ammo Seek today were AR+, Match Rifle and Tactical rifle at $28 per pound + hazmat and shipping.Accuracy was very good in my bolt gun, although that particular rifle shoots most everything well. Now that I have some data I will test it in a gasser and see what it will do.
I think it is a bargain at the delivered price, worst case I will use it for blasting 308 and 223 ammo but dont think that is where I will use this.
The only negative thought is if I like it will I be able to order it again?
American Reloading. I have seen that warning before and all I can say is I have ordered from American a number of times this last year+ and they have saved me a boat load of money on powder and hard to find premium bullets. They are down to mostly out of stock on powder now with a 16lb order of MP 450 being the only one left in stock.FRAUD ALERT -- MIDWEST POWDERS
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Where are you getting that powder?
did you get a chance to try the mp 450 with the v max. I am curious how it shot. I shoot 50 gr v max now but use to use the 40I have some I am going to try with the 40 v max in my 20 practical.
I wasn't aware of a 50g 20 caliber v-max, and I have MP-501.did you get a chance to try the mp 450 with the v max. I am curious how it shot. I shoot 50 gr v max now but use to use the 40
A change in powder won't typically shrink groups by 1.5" Did you change bullets at the same time?I was going to sell my 223 R700 before I found this stuff. It was 2” 100yards at best. I was trying everything possible. I bought 8lb jug of it and with 25.5 and 50grain Z-max
It will hold 1/2”groups all day…sadly this is absolutely the only load that works worth a shit in this rifle
So has anyone else had good experience with American reloading?
That doesn't look too promising for what I wanted it to do in the 20 practical either. I have other stuff to try it in. Might match up with the 6 arc 22-250 or 6.5 creed with 120 class bullets better.
My mp501 is proabaly pretty close to lever. 30g is about 2650 with a 106 in the 6arc. I think 28.5 was about 3500 and 29.5 was about 3600 in my 18" 20 practical.Older post I know, but try Leverevolution for that 20 Practical with the 40gr Vmax. Mine is the Tactical, but by all reports case capacity and ballistics are the same between the Tactical and Practical 20s. (I went with the Tactical because it's actually simpler to make brass; just a single pass of 5.56 brass through a Hornady FL sizing die and it's ready to use, no fireforming needed, or swapping bushings from a 223 die as some of the online resources recommended for the Practical.)
I'm using a 24" AR with this load to push the 40gr Vmax at 3,885 fps avg in converted LC brass and a CCI 450 primer, and accuracy is excellent. For cooler months, it takes 29.0gr to do that in my rifle; for hotter summer shooting back it down a bit to match the same velocity. This load (like most Lever loads) shoots best when pushed near max, but I've got 6-8 loads on some of the brass with no signs of primer pocket loosening so it's not unreasonably hot. The powder charge may be different in your rifle of course.
Incidentally, that 40gr Vmax shoots better than any other bullet I've tried from that rifle, and it likes this Lever load best of all. The little 24gr NTX bullet will do 4,800 over AA2200 from the same rifle too, but terminal effect on sage rats is better with the 40gr Vmax.
I know he said "others" and I already said I bought powder from them in this thread, but I also ordered a few primerers a few weeks ago and they showed up just fine also.I've bought bullets and other Midwest Powder from them, never had an issue.
I've purchased bullets from them. GtgSo has anyone else had good experience with American reloading?
It's sad though. I remember being mad paying 189 for an 8lb of varget.Catching things in stock lately has been a real problem. I have ordered primers, powder and bullets from them and they are my primary source and the ones I check first. 10k 5.56 Ginex primers for $628 last time I bought some a couple of months back. That included shipping and hazmat. Just managed to click on at the right time last week for "new powder like CFE223" for $189 per 8 lbs. I buy most of my goodies there now and will continue to do so.
According to a Shot Show report I read there is a major nitro cellulose shortage on the near horizon. I see powder right now becoming scarce again and prices beginning to rise once more. I think now is the time to get your powder put away and I bet we look back on $189 for 8 lbs with envy pretty darned soon.
The Shot Show report I referenced made mention of munitions produced for current military actions as the reason. Though I imagine BHO and his buddy Drooler would like to eliminate powder accessibility.ATF (Obama) Reclassifies Wetted Nitrocellulose
This could turn into a huge issue for us. You can thank BHO and his ilk. Please share this with your friends and family on Facebook and otherwise. http://www.ammoland.com/2016/08/atf-reclassifies-wetted-nitrocellulose-as-explosive-materials-under-federal-laws/www.okshooters.com
Amy testing with it yet ?It sure went quick. I got four of the last fourteen and it was down to six left when I was done checking out.
I don't even have it yetAmy testing with it yet ?
Got mine yesterday lolI don't even have it yet
It sure went quick. I got four of the last fourteen and it was down to six left when I was done checking out.