Rifle Scopes Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
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Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
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They all use it. I believe one cannot properly range a target without properly using the reticle first
<--- Neither of the aforementioned
They all use it. I believe one cannot properly range a target without properly using the reticle first
Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
I imagine most if not all know how but if you have a spotter with
a state-of art laser rangefinder next to you I don't think your gonna bother with milling. Good question sscoyote.
I imagine most if not all know how but if you have a spotter with
a state-of art laser rangefinder next to you I don't think your gonna bother with milling. Good question sscoyote.
Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
Its still taught, and they still know how... but as was mentioned, if you can get an accurate read down to the yard with a high powered lazer rangefinder... you are going to use that number for your firing solution.
Even if a guy can reliably get .1 mil reads using his scope consistently, they will still not be as accurate as the high end rangefinders.
There are conditions that the rangefinders just won't function in though. So it pays to have the skillset.
Its still taught, and they still know how... but as was mentioned, if you can get an accurate read down to the yard with a high powered lazer rangefinder... you are going to use that number for your firing solution.
Even if a guy can reliably get .1 mil reads using his scope consistently, they will still not be as accurate as the high end rangefinders.
There are conditions that the rangefinders just won't function in though. So it pays to have the skillset.
Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are conditions that the rangefinders just won't function in though. So it pays to have the skillset.</div></div>
Bingo! We have a winner!
Better to know how, and not need it, than to need it, and not know how.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are conditions that the rangefinders just won't function in though. So it pays to have the skillset.</div></div>
Bingo! We have a winner!
Better to know how, and not need it, than to need it, and not know how.
Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are conditions that the rangefinders just won't function in though. So it pays to have the skillset.</div></div>
Bingo! We have a winner!
Better to know how, and not need it, than to need it, and not know how.
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+1. I never bothered with it, but I will now. When there is much fog out, my Leica 1200 only hits to about 400 yards.
-dan
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">There are conditions that the rangefinders just won't function in though. So it pays to have the skillset.</div></div>
Bingo! We have a winner!
Better to know how, and not need it, than to need it, and not know how.
</div></div>
+1. I never bothered with it, but I will now. When there is much fog out, my Leica 1200 only hits to about 400 yards.
-dan
Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Better to know how, and not need it, than to need it, and not know how.</div></div>Right. But, I'm afraid that it's worse than that: It's better to keep using it, and not end up needing it, than to never use it and lose the ability to do it well.
To answer the original question: It depends on the skill level of the officer and the professionalism of departmental training.
Many officers I know are not trained adequately, and even if they learned how, once, at a class, they don't practice it enough to remain proficient. Others spend their time on site drawing range cards, measuring everything with the reticle, and using a laser rangefinder to confirm the distances to potential targets.
I am intimately familiar with one department whose officers don't know how to Mil targets, don't have the reticles to do it with, are not issued rangefinders, and don't purchase their own. I am not looking forward to the day I get called to testify should any of its officers be involved in a shooting.
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lindy</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Better to know how, and not need it, than to need it, and not know how.</div></div>Right. But, I'm afraid that it's worse than that: It's better to keep using it, and not end up needing it, than to never use it and lose the ability to do it well.
To answer the original question: It depends on the skill level of the officer and the professionalism of departmental training.
Many officers I know are not trained adequately, and even if they learned how, once, at a class, they don't practice it enough to remain proficient. Others spend their time on site drawing range cards, measuring everything with the reticle, and using a laser rangefinder to confirm the distances to potential targets.
I am intimately familiar with one department whose officers don't know how to Mil targets, don't have the reticles to do it with, are not issued rangefinders, and don't purchase their own. I am not looking forward to the day I get called to testify should any of its officers be involved in a shooting.
Re: Applying Reticle-Rangefinding?
I am not LEO or military but I do practice milling exclusively since I don't have a LRF and only shoot at steel. I use a gps to mark my FFP and then measure distance at the target before moving it after I'm done firing at that range. This lets me see how accurate I was with the reticle. I strive for .05 mil accuracy and it does get easier with practice until you throw in some mirage. Practice in different environmental elements (fog, mirage) will certainly help a shooter see that your reading may be thrown off due to these elements and how one needs to recognize and compensate for it.
I am not LEO or military but I do practice milling exclusively since I don't have a LRF and only shoot at steel. I use a gps to mark my FFP and then measure distance at the target before moving it after I'm done firing at that range. This lets me see how accurate I was with the reticle. I strive for .05 mil accuracy and it does get easier with practice until you throw in some mirage. Practice in different environmental elements (fog, mirage) will certainly help a shooter see that your reading may be thrown off due to these elements and how one needs to recognize and compensate for it.
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