We appreciate it and love to hear it broI've got a Precision Underground on each suppressor I own, I'm a BIG fan... But then again, I'm a pretty big fan of about everything he makes, so take that with a grain of salt, haha!
The only way it could be easier is if the cover put itself on. We do need to make a better video though…Any experiences between the two on sliding it back between strings at practice? Sounds like the PU is good for that. How is the AG?
don't need a cover that's a PITA to slide back over the can after bringing it back to cool off the can/on barrel
Value for performance? Price matters because I'm getting multiple.
I’ve had pretty much every cover under the sun, probably multiple of each at one point or another, and I can honestly say that the Precision Underground is my favorite overall design. I like the retention, form, fit, and durability. Super easy to install, always secure, and just generally badass.
That said, I also still have/use a HAD cover, a Burn Proof Gear cover, a Libertys Defense, and a Cole-Tac for my other cans, and all of them do a fine job. Absolutely nothing wrong with TAB Gear, AG, etc. Ultimately it comes down to personal preference and application.
I have noticed that my AGs and Cole-Tacs seem to “wear out” faster than others. They start shedding insulation, some of the sewn junctures begin to fray, and the straps/chords/retention method pretty much always need some refreshing. Again, not to say that they’re bad, but I do think you get what you pay for to an extent.
Much appreciated guys. Hearing feedback like this makes the late nights worth it!I have both, a couple of AG's (standard and high temp) and a PU. I like both styles but the Precision Underground is so much easier to slide back to let the can cool. It is very well made, definitely worth the money over the AG covers. I'm also hoping it lasts longer than my first AG standard temp cover did. The Armageddon's insulation began coming loose after about two years so I replaced it with the Precision Underground. The AG high temp cover is still too new to provide any feedback. It was purchased for an AR pistol that does not have room to slide the cover backwards. Otherwise I would have went with another Precision Underground.
Interesting…how does the design prevent the cover from moving back towards the scope? All I see is the handguard stopping it, which my bolt guns don’t have.Liberty's Defense has been my go to. Extremely durable, and expensive. Attached with a laced steel cable, it cannot move forward/back.
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The jacket hangs over each end and the cable cinches it. I’ve had it on my ARs and bolt guns and it has not moved on any of them. Running a dead air K and SInteresting…how does the design prevent the cover from moving back towards the scope? All I see is the handguard stopping it, which my bolt guns don’t have.
Precious little info on this specific topic on their site. I watched most of their vids too.
There’s some variation in can size and the size of the sleeving that we use on the inside of the cover and it prob ended up small on one side and large on the other. We have some sleeving that’s a little bit tighter that would probably take care of your issue. Feel free to send it back and we’ll tighten it up. DM me if you want to.I'm not reading the entire thread, but I have owned both. The PU cover worked awesome on my ultra 9. Except it would fall back down over the barrel with the gun muzzle up staging for a stage or when slung over my should going between stages. I got an AG cover and have had no issues with it sliding any which way, forward or back and it works equally well at mirage mitigation (even on 15rd stages in 90 degree heat).
The build quality on the PU cover was perfection and left nothing to be desired. Just wish I wouldn't have slid down over the barrel as mentioned above.
I also had a cole tac cover. Didn't matter how tight it was cinched down, it slide forward on 10rd stages and annoyed me.
For Christmas I'm going to get myself a Liberty Defense cover for my Magnus since I'm probably another 4 months out on the stamp clearing as of today.
A+ customer service right there, but I sold it to another member here. Just didn't need two can covers for the same can. I do appreciate the offer however!! Thank you!There’s some variation in can size and the size of the sleeving that we use on the inside of the cover and it prob ended up small on one side and large on the other. We have some sleeving that’s a little bit tighter that would probably take care of your issue. Feel free to send it back and we’ll tighten it up. DM me if you want to.
Recoil is what sends it forward. I might be missing your point but the cover wants to move forward typically not towards the scope. Science.Interesting…how does the design prevent the cover from moving back towards the scope? All I see is the handguard stopping it, which my bolt guns don’t have.
Precious little info on this specific topic on their site. I watched most of their vids too.
Yeah, I know about recoil and covers. You are missing the point.Recoil is what sends it forward. I might be missing your point but the cover wants to move forward typically not towards the scope. Science.
I must have missed it…whose cover is $300+?$300+ suppressor covers... lol
I'm not one that complains about spending money, can't take it when we die anyway... But a $300+ cover is new world to me. If I'm paying more than a tax stamp...
With that said... I use Armageddon Gear high temp covers on nearly every can I own, maybe 15 of them... Only had one issue that was my fault and AG replaced it no questions asked. Their customer service is quick and responsive.
Liberty Defense, Modtac, etcI must have missed it…whose cover is $300+?
I'm looking at your website and the product listings are a little short on photos when it comes to color varieties. Do you have a picture of what the Black Multicam pattern looks like?Fit and finish will be hands down a win for us, not even a contest IMO. I am slightly biased though bc I’m the one who nitpicked every detail of the design until I liked it lol. We just added some new stitching around the inner sleeving that cleaned up a little bit of fraying that has bothered me for a long time.
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It’s going to be really hard to beat our performance when it comes to mirage mitigation. We use an inner layer of braided fiberglass coated with high temp silicone, an outer layer of carbon fiber felt, a nylon shell, and kevlar cord. The way they’re retained is far superior to the ones that you need to put your foot on to pull the laces or straps tight enough to keep it from sliding. The tighter you have to cinch straps/laces around the can the faster the heat is going to transfer through the cover. You’ll notice nylon covers always fail where the straps or laces are cinched. Mirage mitigation is all about keeping heat at bay. Having the silicone seal the entire cover plus the felt not being pressed against the can with the laces goes a long way in doing that. You’ll always get some heat off the end of the can but that is unavoidable no matter what cover you’re using.
A category you missed is ease of install/removal. Ours slide over the can and the cord cinches behind it. It takes 5-8 seconds to put it on. Check the bottom of our home page for an install demo to see how easy it is. It’s low budget but gets the point across.
I do want to note that if you’re looking to do mag dumps no nylon cover will be the right cover for you. Ours can stand up to a couple of mag dumps no problem but they are designed for precision rifles and mirage mitigation. They are designed to hold heat inside for as long as possible. I use them on our carbines but I never send more than 20/30 rounds in a short period of time. If I was a mag dump guy I’d design one that allows heat to slowly/evenly dissipate and I wouldn’t use nylon. Grab one and feel free to send it back if you don’t like it!
This is their black multicam. Looks like every other black multicam I've seen and matches my TacOps drag bag perfectlyI'm looking at your website and the product listings are a little short on photos when it comes to color varieties. Do you have a picture of what the Black Multicam pattern looks like?
Thanks, that's helpful. I like the pattern. Also as it happens, on their website I was looking at the velcro cover which had only one picture, but the listing for the corded cover has a picture of all the colors.This is their black multicam. Looks like every other black multicam I've seen and matches my TacOps drag bag perfectly View attachment 7941466
Yup it’s typical black multi.Thanks, that's helpful. I like the pattern. Also as it happens, on their website I was looking at the velcro cover which had only one picture, but the listing for the corded cover has a picture of all the colors.