Re: Atlas with AI spigot
"Any idea when that's going to be available?"
Being prototyped now.....
"Any idea when that's going to be available?"
Being prototyped now.....
Atlas with AI spigot
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Re: Atlas with AI spigot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kasey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Any idea when that's going to be available?"
Being prototyped now.....</div></div>
Fantastic! In the meantime I'll try to contain my excitement by focusing on other projects...
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kasey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Any idea when that's going to be available?"
Being prototyped now.....</div></div>
Fantastic! In the meantime I'll try to contain my excitement by focusing on other projects...
Re: Atlas with AI spigot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kasey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Any idea when that's going to be available?"
Being prototyped now..... </div></div>
Great news!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kasey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">"Any idea when that's going to be available?"
Being prototyped now..... </div></div>
Great news!
Re: Atlas with AI spigot
got the spigot prototype today....I like it. I'll try to get a photo and costs up ASAP.
got the spigot prototype today....I like it. I'll try to get a photo and costs up ASAP.
Re: Atlas with AI spigot
Here is the new V2 AI Spigot prototype, seen in the loose position and in steel, we might use Stainless Steel. There will be a flat washer followed with a lock washer then the knurled nut which is retained on the spigot. No idea on cost but it is designed off the older style so the end user can swap the new for the old. The idea is to loosen the nut press the spigot into place on the stock then tighten the nut.
Nothing new, nothing novel, just plain old mechanics.
What is interesting to me is that with the tolerance found in the actual AI bipod spigot, I thought the bit we had with our Atlas/AI spigot it should be fine. Then you guys taught me different! So I hope this satisfies the need to make things tight, on my chassis, the fore-aft movement is gone and there was no 3 to 9 rocking either and that is hand tight, no tools used.
Suggestions comments welcome.
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Here is the new V2 AI Spigot prototype, seen in the loose position and in steel, we might use Stainless Steel. There will be a flat washer followed with a lock washer then the knurled nut which is retained on the spigot. No idea on cost but it is designed off the older style so the end user can swap the new for the old. The idea is to loosen the nut press the spigot into place on the stock then tighten the nut.
Nothing new, nothing novel, just plain old mechanics.
What is interesting to me is that with the tolerance found in the actual AI bipod spigot, I thought the bit we had with our Atlas/AI spigot it should be fine. Then you guys taught me different! So I hope this satisfies the need to make things tight, on my chassis, the fore-aft movement is gone and there was no 3 to 9 rocking either and that is hand tight, no tools used.
Suggestions comments welcome.
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Re: Atlas with AI spigot
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LFOD1776</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When can I buy one Kasey?
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+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LFOD1776</div><div class="ubbcode-body">When can I buy one Kasey?
+1
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Hi Kasey,
Standing by when you start taking orders, please PM when ready
Hi Kasey,
Standing by when you start taking orders, please PM when ready
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lol, done!
We can do it or end user can, not sure what the charge will be yet.
lol, done!
We can do it or end user can, not sure what the charge will be yet.
Re: Atlas with AI spigot
The338LM yes it is adjustable like that.
Ship date, since I suck at predicting delivery dates, I'm just going to say the design is approved (slight tweak) and production starts quick as machine is open.
The338LM yes it is adjustable like that.
Ship date, since I suck at predicting delivery dates, I'm just going to say the design is approved (slight tweak) and production starts quick as machine is open.
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Kasey, how much tension is required to stiffen the assembly so it does not wobble? If it is very much at all, I would suggest that the knob be made just a tad bigger to allow for usage with gloves and people without alot of hand strength. I don't think it would need to be much bigger but even a little coupled with the cutout spaces like the tightening knob on the bipod may be of great benefit.
Whatever the case, I want in line for the upgrade and will be anxiously awaiting cost and availability information. ;-)
Kasey, how much tension is required to stiffen the assembly so it does not wobble? If it is very much at all, I would suggest that the knob be made just a tad bigger to allow for usage with gloves and people without alot of hand strength. I don't think it would need to be much bigger but even a little coupled with the cutout spaces like the tightening knob on the bipod may be of great benefit.
Whatever the case, I want in line for the upgrade and will be anxiously awaiting cost and availability information. ;-)
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fredreded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kesey, how much tension is required to stiffen the assembly so it does not wobble? If it is very much at all, I would suggest that the knob be made just a tad bigger to allow for usage with gloves and people without alot of hand strength. I don't think it would need to be much bigger but even a little coupled with the cutout spaces like the tightening knob on the bipod may be of great benefit.
Whatever the case, I want in line for the upgrade and will be anxiously awaiting cost and availability information. ;-)</div></div>
+1
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fredreded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Kesey, how much tension is required to stiffen the assembly so it does not wobble? If it is very much at all, I would suggest that the knob be made just a tad bigger to allow for usage with gloves and people without alot of hand strength. I don't think it would need to be much bigger but even a little coupled with the cutout spaces like the tightening knob on the bipod may be of great benefit.
Whatever the case, I want in line for the upgrade and will be anxiously awaiting cost and availability information. ;-)</div></div>
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Re: Atlas with AI spigot
Great news Kasey
My bdays around the corner and im keen as mustard to get a V8 and V2spigot !!
Thank you kindly for responding to customer feedback
Great news Kasey
My bdays around the corner and im keen as mustard to get a V8 and V2spigot !!
Thank you kindly for responding to customer feedback
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I like that idea! Cuts inventory and delivers matching knobs....lol
A quick check indicated that the OD of the Atlas knob will pass into the barrel channel of the AI chassis by about .175", is there any chance that will interfere with a larger diameter barrel?
The current knob is .75 in diameter and it is really not that hard to tighten, I'm guessing about 20-25 inch pounds to bottom the washers out.
I like that idea! Cuts inventory and delivers matching knobs....lol
A quick check indicated that the OD of the Atlas knob will pass into the barrel channel of the AI chassis by about .175", is there any chance that will interfere with a larger diameter barrel?
The current knob is .75 in diameter and it is really not that hard to tighten, I'm guessing about 20-25 inch pounds to bottom the washers out.
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The English tension knobs (in my post at the top of this page) are 1 7/16" in diameter, if it makes a difference to you.
I <span style="font-style: italic">can</span> tell you that .175" isn't going to make a difference for my Remington 700 in an AICS, Remington 40X in an AICS, or my AW-50! But it might make a difference to somebody.
The English tension knobs (in my post at the top of this page) are 1 7/16" in diameter, if it makes a difference to you.
I <span style="font-style: italic">can</span> tell you that .175" isn't going to make a difference for my Remington 700 in an AICS, Remington 40X in an AICS, or my AW-50! But it might make a difference to somebody.
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the Atlas knob is 1.51, how much clearance do you have with that knob and your largest diameter barrel?
the Atlas knob is 1.51, how much clearance do you have with that knob and your largest diameter barrel?
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have my atlas on the Badger IMUNS on an AI stock with a #7 contour barrel. I measure 0.85" from the center of the spigot to the bottom of the barrel. Of course, the IMUNS places the bipod about 2.5" further forward on the barrel so you would lose some clearance further back. Perhaps going with the existing knob from the center of the Atlas is not the best idea.
The knob that you have in the picture looks to be about .75" or so. I snapped a couple pictures with some various sized knob analogues for you to take a look at for size comparison. Personally, I think the 1.25" size would be ideal but any of them would be an improvement when trying to manipulate them with gloves, cold hands, etc.
I'd be interested in hearing what others think as well. Here are the pics with the corresponding sizes posted on top of them.
1.38
1.25
1.15
0.98
have my atlas on the Badger IMUNS on an AI stock with a #7 contour barrel. I measure 0.85" from the center of the spigot to the bottom of the barrel. Of course, the IMUNS places the bipod about 2.5" further forward on the barrel so you would lose some clearance further back. Perhaps going with the existing knob from the center of the Atlas is not the best idea.
The knob that you have in the picture looks to be about .75" or so. I snapped a couple pictures with some various sized knob analogues for you to take a look at for size comparison. Personally, I think the 1.25" size would be ideal but any of them would be an improvement when trying to manipulate them with gloves, cold hands, etc.
I'd be interested in hearing what others think as well. Here are the pics with the corresponding sizes posted on top of them.
1.38
1.25
1.15
0.98
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I have just BARELY 0.125" clearance with the English tension knob, with my Remington 40-X heavy barrel in AICS chassis.
As you said, the Atlas knob is just a bit smaller in diameter than that, so I'd have MORE clearance.
I'd say go for it!
EDIT: Wow fred ... that's a BIG BARREL!
Kasey -- maybe you could have an option of a small knob for really BIG barrels?
I have just BARELY 0.125" clearance with the English tension knob, with my Remington 40-X heavy barrel in AICS chassis.
As you said, the Atlas knob is just a bit smaller in diameter than that, so I'd have MORE clearance.
I'd say go for it!
EDIT: Wow fred ... that's a BIG BARREL!
Kasey -- maybe you could have an option of a small knob for really BIG barrels?
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Question to consider and one I worried about playing with the airsoft part was the strength of the AICS latch the holds the spigot. Would it be possible to put too much tension on the spigot and round off/snap the catch holding it in place? Just a thought.
Question to consider and one I worried about playing with the airsoft part was the strength of the AICS latch the holds the spigot. Would it be possible to put too much tension on the spigot and round off/snap the catch holding it in place? Just a thought.
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Thanks fredreded, I appreciate the demonstration and I've replied to your PM.
In looking at that 1.38 washer, I'm thinking the Atlas Knob at 1.51 is too big. I'll see what we can do, but Ohiogunnut raises a valid question. I suspect the lever will take the pressure as long as the knob diameter is reasonable and tolls are not used to "tighten" the affair...
Thanks fredreded, I appreciate the demonstration and I've replied to your PM.
In looking at that 1.38 washer, I'm thinking the Atlas Knob at 1.51 is too big. I'll see what we can do, but Ohiogunnut raises a valid question. I suspect the lever will take the pressure as long as the knob diameter is reasonable and tolls are not used to "tighten" the affair...
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Ohiogunnut, how did you mount that VLTOR bi-pod? What did you use to interface to the AI chassis?
Thx
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ohiogunnut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here was my solution to the spigot problem. Just used the Vltor bipod as an example, but could fit my Atlas with Larue lever on there just as easily.
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Ohiogunnut, how did you mount that VLTOR bi-pod? What did you use to interface to the AI chassis?
Thx
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Ohiogunnut</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here was my solution to the spigot problem. Just used the Vltor bipod as an example, but could fit my Atlas with Larue lever on there just as easily.
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Sorry, Ohiogunnut should have read farther up the post. How robust is that mount? Does it feel weak or cheap?
Thx
Sorry, Ohiogunnut should have read farther up the post. How robust is that mount? Does it feel weak or cheap?
Thx
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Hi BLI -- I actually obtained one of those myself and tried it out with my AI AW50. It held up just fine. However when all is said and done I plan on upgrading to Kasey's mount for a few reasons, which I believe I mentioned.
Hi BLI -- I actually obtained one of those myself and tried it out with my AI AW50. It held up just fine. However when all is said and done I plan on upgrading to Kasey's mount for a few reasons, which I believe I mentioned.
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Bump, how is this 2.0 coming? I just got my new Atlas in, and I don't think the "slop" is going to be an issue at all, especially where I am coming from an AI bipod, where I didn't even mind the cant feature, this seems very firm in comparison. Even still, it is nice to have options, and I would probably still do the 2.0 conversion, if it were end user capable.
Bump, how is this 2.0 coming? I just got my new Atlas in, and I don't think the "slop" is going to be an issue at all, especially where I am coming from an AI bipod, where I didn't even mind the cant feature, this seems very firm in comparison. Even still, it is nice to have options, and I would probably still do the 2.0 conversion, if it were end user capable.
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jerseymike, If you are asking about the AI spigot, then I can tell you the spigots are in the metal finishing stage and the blocks need to be finished and then anodized, 2-3 weeks out.
jerseymike, If you are asking about the AI spigot, then I can tell you the spigots are in the metal finishing stage and the blocks need to be finished and then anodized, 2-3 weeks out.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kasey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">jerseymike, If you are asking about the AI spigot, then I can tell you the spigots are in the metal finishing stage and the blocks need to be finished and then anodized, 2-3 weeks out. </div></div>
thanks for the update kasey!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Kasey</div><div class="ubbcode-body">jerseymike, If you are asking about the AI spigot, then I can tell you the spigots are in the metal finishing stage and the blocks need to be finished and then anodized, 2-3 weeks out. </div></div>
thanks for the update kasey!
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What was the final decision on the knob?
I think this is the direction I am going to go with my AE.
What was the final decision on the knob?
I think this is the direction I am going to go with my AE.
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I would like to see something with finger grooves instead of a knurled knob.
I would like to see something with finger grooves instead of a knurled knob.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the final decision on the knob?
I think this is the direction I am going to go with my AE. </div></div>I like it best so far, I started with a Harris, went to the AI bipod (leaps and bounds over the Harris, but too hard to hold still,) and finally the Atlas. With the spigot tension knob, it will be pretty much the ultimate setup!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What was the final decision on the knob?
I think this is the direction I am going to go with my AE. </div></div>I like it best so far, I started with a Harris, went to the AI bipod (leaps and bounds over the Harris, but too hard to hold still,) and finally the Atlas. With the spigot tension knob, it will be pretty much the ultimate setup!
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Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration.
Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration.
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration. </div></div>
only this... no IMUNS, waiting to pick up my Atlas V8
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration. </div></div>
only this... no IMUNS, waiting to pick up my Atlas V8
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration. </div></div>
here ya go
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration. </div></div>
here ya go
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FAST- How do you like the IMUNS? WOW, I cant beleive how long the bipod sticks out with the IMUNS and Badger attachments. How do you like the set up?
Can we get a few more detailed pictures
FAST- How do you like the IMUNS? WOW, I cant beleive how long the bipod sticks out with the IMUNS and Badger attachments. How do you like the set up?
Can we get a few more detailed pictures
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FRED- I see that you have the IMUNS installed. I also see that there is about a hairs size of room between the IMUNS, and your barrel. Have you noticed the barrel touching the IMUNS at all during firing? Are there any scratch or dings on your barrel?
THanks!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fredreded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">have my atlas on the Badger IMUNS on an AI stock with a #7 contour barrel. I measure 0.85" from the center of the spigot to the bottom of the barrel. Of course, the IMUNS places the bipod about 2.5" further forward on the barrel so you would lose some clearance further back. Perhaps going with the existing knob from the center of the Atlas is not the best idea.
The knob that you have in the picture looks to be about .75" or so. I snapped a couple pictures with some various sized knob analogues for you to take a look at for size comparison. Personally, I think the 1.25" size would be ideal but any of them would be an improvement when trying to manipulate them with gloves, cold hands, etc.
I'd be interested in hearing what others think as well. Here are the pics with the corresponding sizes posted on top of them.
1.38
1.25
1.15
0.98
</div></div>
FRED- I see that you have the IMUNS installed. I also see that there is about a hairs size of room between the IMUNS, and your barrel. Have you noticed the barrel touching the IMUNS at all during firing? Are there any scratch or dings on your barrel?
THanks!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fredreded</div><div class="ubbcode-body">have my atlas on the Badger IMUNS on an AI stock with a #7 contour barrel. I measure 0.85" from the center of the spigot to the bottom of the barrel. Of course, the IMUNS places the bipod about 2.5" further forward on the barrel so you would lose some clearance further back. Perhaps going with the existing knob from the center of the Atlas is not the best idea.
The knob that you have in the picture looks to be about .75" or so. I snapped a couple pictures with some various sized knob analogues for you to take a look at for size comparison. Personally, I think the 1.25" size would be ideal but any of them would be an improvement when trying to manipulate them with gloves, cold hands, etc.
I'd be interested in hearing what others think as well. Here are the pics with the corresponding sizes posted on top of them.
1.38
1.25
1.15
0.98
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
here ya go
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Thanks.
I was hoping it didn't put the axis too far out for good tracking. Do you find you can still traverse laterally enough to be good to go on multiples or movers?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
here ya go
Thanks.
I was hoping it didn't put the axis too far out for good tracking. Do you find you can still traverse laterally enough to be good to go on multiples or movers?
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
here ya go
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Thanks.
I was hoping it didn't put the axis too far out for good tracking. Do you find you can still traverse laterally enough to be good to go on multiples or movers? </div></div>
honestly i could not tell ya i have not shot the rifle enough to say. Ill be hog hunting with it soon though! I got Kasey to install the spigot upgrade with tighting knob, it seem to work great!
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: fastford</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
here ya go
Thanks.
I was hoping it didn't put the axis too far out for good tracking. Do you find you can still traverse laterally enough to be good to go on multiples or movers? </div></div>
honestly i could not tell ya i have not shot the rifle enough to say. Ill be hog hunting with it soon though! I got Kasey to install the spigot upgrade with tighting knob, it seem to work great!
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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration. </div></div>
That's what firemarshall27 was running last time I saw his rig (below):
Kasey, any update on the tension knob?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: LoneWolfUSMC</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Anyone have a good pic of a AI with IMUNS, spigot and Atlas?
I think that will end up being my final configuration. </div></div>
That's what firemarshall27 was running last time I saw his rig (below):
Kasey, any update on the tension knob?
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The V2 of the Atlas AI spigot is now available. You can upgrade your existing Atlas bipod with the V2. I got my V2 AI spigot a week or so back, works great, completely eliminated the slop. Give Kasey a call.
The V2 of the Atlas AI spigot is now available. You can upgrade your existing Atlas bipod with the V2. I got my V2 AI spigot a week or so back, works great, completely eliminated the slop. Give Kasey a call.
