Suppressors Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

[verdugo60]

So I am getting my .308 threaded for a brake right now, and am planning to buy a cheaper stainless steel 338 QD can from either YHM, or SAS. My question is twofold:

Who makes the "best" (or a good one) brake for recoil reduction for the 338? Again, I'm looking at the YHM or SAS stainless cans for a cheaper way to get into a 338 can now that I can use on my 308. I know TBAC is a great option, and that time will come...

Second,

Do I need to put a 338 brake on my .308 to be able to use the YHM or SAS 338 can on it, or can I have a .308 brake on it and use the 338 can? Obviously I know I won't be able to use a .308 brake on the 338. Blown up cans are not in my interest.

Thanks ahead of time!

 

[jonaddis84]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

The yhm 338 uses its own size brake, so you will need to use it even on your 308. Not sure on the SAS.

 

[MontanaHick]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

Verdugo, look at Elite Iron (.net), their .338 can is bombproof, relatively inexpensive and threaded 5/8x24 so it's industry standard. They also have a brake that would work if you insist on it, but why not just suppress and skip the brake? Brake does you no good with the can on, and unless you hate your shooting buddies, why shoot a 338 with a brake anyway? IMO, thread all the barrels 5/8x24 and move the suppressor around, and skip the cost of brakes...

 

[flounderv2]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaHick</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Verdugo, look at Elite Iron (.net), their .338 can is bombproof, relatively inexpensive and threaded 5/8x24 so it's industry standard. They also have a brake that would work if you insist on it, but why not just suppress and skip the brake? Brake does you no good with the can on, and unless you hate your shooting buddies, why shoot a 338 with a brake anyway? IMO, thread all the barrels 5/8x24 and move the suppressor around, and skip the cost of brakes... </div></div>

I would be very very leary of threading a 338 with 5/8x24. That only leaves .287 of barrel left.
5/8x24 on a .308 leaves you with .317 and thats nowhere near the pressure of a 338.
Standard 3/4 threading on a .338 gives you .412 of barrel.

Sorry but I dont want to trust 5/8x24 on a 338 but thats just me.

 

[fireguyty]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

Read the other thread up right now, something like using a 338 on a 308. All the SAS info is there if you decide to go that way.

Also, I have a couple of friends with Elite Iron cans. One is very pleased. The other guy's can hurts his accuracy and so it never gets shot.

 

[MaximumVelocity]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: verdugo60</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Who makes the "best" (or a good one) brake for recoil reduction for the 338? Again, I'm looking at the YHM or SAS stainless cans for a cheaper way to get into a 338 can now that I can use on my 308. I know TBAC is a great option, and that time will come...</div></div>

Everyone has their own flavor but SAS works really well. I have an SAS 7.62 Arbiter and a .338 in Ti QD. Very effective system.

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Second,

Do I need to put a 338 brake on my .308 to be able to use the YHM or SAS 338 can on it, or can I have a .308 brake on it and use the 338 can? Obviously I know I won't be able to use a .308 brake on the 338. Blown up cans are not in my interest.

Thanks ahead of time! </div></div>

If you were to run with SAS, you do not need the .338 brake on the .308

Their QD cans will work with any caliber brake. Example....I have 3 rifles with SAS QD brakes. All of their own caliber. 5.56, 7.62 and .338. If I want, I can run the .338 can or the .308 can on the 5.56.

Same for the .308

Obviously, I can only run the .338 can on the .338. The diameter of the brake does not matter, just match it to your barrel.

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MontanaHick</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> <span style="color: #FF0000">Brake does you no good with the can on</span>, and unless you hate your shooting buddies, <span style="color: #FF0000">why shoot a 338 with a brake anyway</span>? IMO, thread all the barrels 5/8x24 and move the suppressor around, and skip the cost of brakes... </div></div>

Having a brake actually protects the blast baffle when firing. In fact, it acts as an easily replacable blast baffle so, there is a benifit.

I actually prefer the recoil reduction of a brake over my can and it's a 38oz Ti Shark Jaws. Even with the 2.4 lbs the can adds to the rifle, the recoil is much greater shooting suppressed. That's probably why he wants to shoot with a brake.

My 338 edge is threaded 5/8x24 and i've not had the first issue arise in ~850 rounds. I did however get my 300 Norma threaded 3/4x24 using the same logic as Flounder.

 

[jonaddis84]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

I think the 338 bore and 3/4" thread argument is just one of those, "if you can do it, why not do it" things. Not sure if theres any proof out there that 5/8" is bad, but if theres any doubt you might as well play it safe. I think the weight hanging off the end has more to do with it than necessarily the pressures. 338LM is quite a low pressure round comparatively speaking.

That being said, I switched the 5/8 threads on my factory Savage 338LM barrel out to 3/4" before selling it in favor of a new barrel which also has 3/4" threads.

 

[rawdeal77]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

I'm considering the same purchase and was wondering why no one mentioned AAC's can/brake combo.

Are there issues here?

 

[verdugo60]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

If YHM is doing a 338 can with 5/8 x 24 I'm not worried. The 338 is already threaded for 5/8 and that's what I'm doing my 308 in too. I want a brake/QD one because for now I will only have one can, and I want to be able to throw it on both guns, but be able to shoot the other one (especially 338) with a brake. It already has a brake on it, and yes I have sprayed my buddy with dirt that was shooting next to me...not a negative for me!! LOL.

Thanks for your input, I may have to go with the SAS so I can use their 338 can on their 7.62 brake for it.

I juuusst might be able to hold out and get a TBAC 30 BA, but I want a steel can I can use on semi-autos and 300 Win Mags with complete confidence and I just don't trust a Ti can for that especially the semi-auto.

My thought currently is that I can get a stainless steel can started now, and have it that much sooner as the wait is already too lung with Uncle Sam involved.

 

[verdugo60]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rawdeal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm considering the same purchase and was wondering why no one mentioned AAC's can/brake combo.

Are there issues here? </div></div>

Probably because I only asked about SAS and YHM systems as those are the ones I have mostly narrowed it down to for a Steel can with a brake.

 

[Goin'Hot]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: rawdeal</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm considering the same purchase and was wondering why no one mentioned AAC's can/brake combo.

Are there issues here? </div></div>

The OP is looking at the cost.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: verdugo60</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Again, I'm looking at the YHM or SAS stainless cans <span style="color: #FF0000">for a cheaper way to get into a 338 can </span>now that I can use on my 308.</div></div>

 

[verdugo60]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: verdugo60</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Who makes the "best" (or a good one) brake for recoil reduction for the 338? Again, I'm looking at the YHM or SAS stainless cans for a cheaper way to get into a 338 can now that I can use on my 308. I know TBAC is a great option, and that time will come...</div></div>

Everyone has their own flavor but SAS works really well. I have an SAS 7.62 Arbiter and a .338 in Ti QD. Very effective system.

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Second,

Do I need to put a 338 brake on my .308 to be able to use the YHM or SAS 338 can on it, or can I have a .308 brake on it and use the 338 can? Obviously I know I won't be able to use a .308 brake on the 338. Blown up cans are not in my interest.

Thanks ahead of time! </div></div>

If you were to run with SAS, you do not need the .338 brake on the .308

Their QD cans will work with any caliber brake. Example....I have 3 rifles with SAS QD brakes. All of their own caliber. 5.56, 7.62 and .338. If I want, I can run the .338 can or the .308 can on the 5.56.

Same for the .308

Obviously, I can only run the .338 can on the .338. The diameter of the brake does not matter, just match it to your barrel. </div></div>

Thank you, Maximum, this exactly the info I needed. The line where you stated the .338 can only be run on the .338 must be a typo, as you specifically said you can use it on the 7.62 and 5.56 guns you have with SAS brakes on them.

How is your POI shift with the 338 QD on your 338 and 308? Of course, being Ti, it's probably better than the shift mine would have in a heavier steel configuration.

 

[MaximumVelocity]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

Sorry.....what I meant to say is that my .338 gun will only accept the .338 can, for obvious reasons. But yes, the .338 suppressor can be hot swapped between all three guns if I so choose.

As far as the POI shifts, range sessions are still in development with the different setups. So I am unfortunately unable to answer that question at this time as I have not tested those scenarios just yet.

 

[verdugo60]

Re: Best SS 338 multi-host can/brake combo

Ok, I figured. There is a lot to do when getting a new suppressor as far as testing. What a great thing, more excuses to shoot stuff!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: MaximumVelocity</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Sorry.....what I meant to say is that my .338 gun will only accept the .338 can, for obvious reasons. But yes, the .338 suppressor can be hot swapped between all three guns if I so choose.

As far as the POI shifts, range sessions are still in development with the different setups. So I am unfortunately unable to answer that question at this time as I have not tested those scenarios just yet. </div></div>