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Biden banning sale of Lake City to Civilians

Face value this is bad and shameless. Then again, this is the same dumb faggot that realistically has like a 4% approval rating.

However.

Those contracts are agreed upon with the contractor having civ sales on the back end. Its built into the overall bid. Ceasing overrun sales would literally kill their margins because of how it was factored in during the bid.

Regardless, even if this did happen, it's not stopping anything. Why? Because all that will happen is that those components will be 'sold' to some subsidiary or to another plant and made into the same ammo, skirting this whole thing.

The ammo isn't going to just magically disappear. Plus, who the fuck shoots 855 when 193 exists?
I was going to post something similar. If this ever went to court Winchester would easily win precisely for the reasons you outlined.

I don't know the details of Winchester's books but clearly overrun sales were a huge factor in bidding what they bid.

At very least they had to go long on lots of raw materials so threatening 30% of their business is a no go.

Changing the terms now would be a breech of contract.
 
Never really shot that much of it, federal 223 shot better in my JPs

That said, be cool if Winchester could grow a set and bump up the sales to private and stop selling to .gov to prove a point, but ain’t no drug like gov cheeze I guess 🤷‍♂️
 
Funny thing is, US v Miller 1939, that was used to validate the NFA, basically says that the only stuff not able to be regulated is stuff appropriate to combat. It goes so far as to cite colony rules and early state constitiutions that required people to show with specific arms and minmum specified amounts of powder and ball when mustered. It also shows the then definition of who the milita were, including old farts to 60 and emergency lists. They also cite how objectors or those unable to afford the costs were to be dealt with. Imagine the state being required to arm those that could not afford it.

Thanks for the reminder, this is not talked about enough.
 
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Just will cause more competition imo. May take a while but where there is demand....

I see more "off" brands now than ever it seems.
 
Unfortunately the .gov owns Lake City plant as far as I know and contracts Winchester to run it.

I’d imagine they could just buy all the ammo regardless of overrun or quality issues and then either just let it sit, or have Winchester destroy it.

That would alleviate any financial burden on Winchester at the detriment of taxpayers.


Hopefully there is some law or fine print that won’t allow.

But it doesn’t look good.
 
Funny thing is, US v Miller 1939, that was used to validate the NFA, basically says that the only stuff not able to be regulated is stuff appropriate to combat. It goes so far as to cite colony rules and early state constitiutions that required people to show with specific arms and minmum specified amounts of powder and ball when mustered. It also shows the then definition of who the milita were, including old farts to 60 and emergency lists. They also cite how objectors or those unable to afford the costs were to be dealt with. Imagine the state being required to arm those that could not afford it.

If Miller had lived.........
 
If Miller had lived.........

There was also an opportunity in Heller for Scalia to go harder in this direction, and yet he explicitly stated that certain regulations are OK :( There is a nod to Miller and its allowance for weapons "in common use" by militias, so maybe the intention was to allow this door to get kicked open by a future lawsuit?
 
I don't mean to make sense but... I think it's great news , now people can stop supporting the government they bitch so much about . Bitch and moan but when it comes to saving a buck folks will buy ammo from anyone, even our government and russia .
 
Unfortunately the .gov owns Lake City plant as far as I know and contracts Winchester to run it.

I’d imagine they could just buy all the ammo regardless of overrun or quality issues and then either just let it sit, or have Winchester destroy it.

That would alleviate any financial burden on Winchester at the detriment of taxpayers.


Hopefully there is some law or fine print that won’t allow.

But it doesn’t look good.
They might send the excess to Afghanistan so the Taliban can continue to utilize the small arms we gifted them last year.
 
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