Rifle Scopes Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

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I was looking for a QD mount for the POF 308 14.5" that i just got to got with the NF scope and immediately looked at the LT products. I looked there first because pretty much everything i have on my ARs are Larue. I have it all from Eotech risers, Aimpoint T1 mounts, etc. I also looked at the ADM and Bobro. After extensive search it was unanimous that anyone who had actually held and examined all three agreed that the Bobro is on a different level than the two mentioned.

I ordered mine from SWFA and it arrived promptly yesterday. I can tell you that comparing an LT mount to the Bobro is like comparing a Seiko to a Breitling. They will both give you the time no question that the Breitling is leaps and bounds above the Seiko. The Bobro mount is beautifully designed. And everything is well thought out. There is no adjustment of any nuts or screws to fit any rail whether is or out of spec.

The unit is so well designed that i tried it on a three different rails from different brands that usually require my LT mount to be adjusted but this one just fits and fits like it was held there with hands of god. The self indexing it has is so precise that when you roll the mount over the rail it is as tight as it can get and that is WITHOUT even closing the clamp/clasp down to fully secure it. Before i closed the lever, i grabbed the mount and aggressively shoot it and there is not an hint of movement. Obviously closing the clamp made a mount that feels like it is welded to the upper.

Needless to say i am very impressed with this mount and i am an hard man to impress. Bobro has sold me on their product and engineering and from now on they will be my primary mount if it is available for whatever product i intend to use.
 
#2
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#4
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They need to make a T1/H1 mount. I would get it if they did and then all my AR mounts would be Bobros.

You forgot to add that Bobros also do not mar the rails or upper like the LT mount does.
 
#5
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Bacarrat</div><div class="ubbcode-body">They need to make a T1/H1 mount. I would get it if they did and then all my AR mounts would be Bobros.

You forgot to add that Bobros also do not mar the rails or upper like the LT mount does. </div></div>


+1 on this. Although i personally never cared since my guns are more tools and i have scratches on them etc. I can definitely see how it is a major plus for some people I mounted, and remounted the same rail a few times and there was no hint that any mount had been there. No scarring or marring at all. It is just a damn good design.
 
#6
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

I traded mine for rings on my POF 308 just out of no need for a removable optic. It was a very nice QD mount and if I needed QD I'd buy another.
 
#7
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

What's that old saying....something about the thread being useless without pics
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Here's a Bobro for those who haven't seen it.

Thanks to Brady at SWFA for convincing me to give one a try.

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Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

My only Bobro concern is the custom nuts that attached the ring halves together, they ain't something you'll find or have laying around.

That said, I do like the mounts, my Aimpoint now rides in the Bobro QD.

Though I never had a LaRue failure, this one seems to lock up more securely and consistently. And the locking mechanism seems very sturdy,
 
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I spent the day with one of these. If you look at the photo above you'll notice two pieces where the throw lever meets the body of the mount. One piece has a vertical grove in it. This grooved piece is a lock that prevents the lever from being unlocked unless it is depressed. There is no snagging of this lever and dumping a scope by accident. I was testing the new Super Sniper 1-4 HD prototypes on three different rifles. This is the finest mount of it's type that I have seen. Simply beautiful engineering and manufacturing.
 
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I also have the POF P308 14.5 with a US Optics T-Pal 1.8 X 10 37mm obj. I am using the LOW US Optics rings but would like to get a one pcs mount......yours seems a little high to me, how is your cheek weld with that set up?
 
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Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

I have a couple of Larue mounts and served me well, no complaints. I looked at these and ADM and like the lock up better, but Larue offers a 10moa mount and I didn't see that for the other two. If either one offered it i would have bought it to try. So if anyone is listening maybe a new model, 20 moa would be an option also.
 
#18
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's that old saying....something about the thread being useless without pics
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Here's a Bobro for those who haven't seen it.
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I agree
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http://swfa.com/SWFA-Precision-Optic-30mm-Mount-P48134.aspx

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#20
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AXEMAN</div><div class="ubbcode-body">thats a nice looking mount. it looks very well thought out. id love to fondle one </div></div>


Honestly, i hardly make new threads about a product so this really struck with me. As nice as the pictures look, they do not do justice to the mount. In honesty all of the mounts including LT and ADM look great in pictures. You really have to "fondle" this one to appreciate it
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#21
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These are truly excellent mounts. I have been looking to pick up another Bobro ACOG mount because I vastly prefer the design to the larger Larue LT-100 unit.

I have not had an opportunity to use one of the Bobro 30mm scope mounts like the one describe aboved, but I will keep them in mind for the next 1pc mount I need. Any idea if Bobro plans to offer these with any build-in cant in the future?
 
#23
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

Another thing about the the Bobro mount that hardly anyone notices, is that you can actually adjust the screw up and down to where when you tighten down the nut, it can bottom out when it's all the way tight.
 
#24
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

The vertical splits in the rings in the Larue mounts make the rings only as strong as the thin piece in the middle that they clamp to. Not a really great way to do it.
 
#25
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ElCoyote</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The vertical splits in the rings in the Larue mounts make the rings only as strong as the thin piece in the middle that they clamp to. Not a really great way to do it. </div></div>

Any stories of failure due to that design decision?

The Bobro mounts do look like jewelery.
 
#26
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

While these mounts are nice, you drinking too much koolaid if you believe there is any real diff. at the end of the day between an ADM Recon X, LT 104, or the Bobro mount.

Last time I checked all three held equally as well of a RTZ and all three secure extremely well to the rail with nice QD systems.

The bobro is a good mount for light weight optic however I will not run a bigger optic in a mount using only one latch when there is two others that feature twice the security with two latches.

ADM was smart in making both one and two latch systems for both big and small optics and at least Larue covered both bases effectively when making their mounts all two levers.
 
#27
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

Might have to try one of these instead of getting <span style="font-style: italic">another</span> Larue SPR 1.5 mount for my next build.

Its hard not to buy another Larue tho since they have done me so good.
 
#29
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trident1982</div><div class="ubbcode-body">While these mounts are nice, you drinking too much koolaid if you believe there is any real diff. at the end of the day between an ADM Recon X, LT 104, or the Bobro mount.

Last time I checked all three held equally as well of a RTZ and all three secure extremely well to the rail with nice QD systems.

The bobro is a good mount for light weight optic however I will not run a bigger optic in a mount using only one latch when there is two others that feature twice the security with two latches.

ADM was smart in making both one and two latch systems for both big and small optics and at least Larue covered both bases effectively when making their mounts all two levers.

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Sorry bud, but you are talking out of your a** and have no idea what you are talking about. The design of the latch on the Bobro is completely different that ADM and LT. The difference is that with LT you have to have a TOOL to adjust the hex nut based on the receiver make it tight enough that it catches at 45deg etc. With the ADM you also have to adjust the tightness by spinning the hex screw etc.

With the Bobro there is no adjustment. Whether the rail is out of spec or not it will hold on as tight as possible. ADM needs two latches because their system needs one. With the Bobro, the mount is so secure that it is as tight before you have even closed the lever. I have a 3.5-15x50 NF which weighs over 30oz on it and it is as rock solid as you can get.

I am not drinking any Koolaid. As i mentioned, every mount i own is a LT and this Bobro was the first one, but any one with an IQ greater than a toothpick can look at the Bobro and tell that it is leaps ahead of LT and ADM. Have you seen the replies here from people that actually have used the mount and compared it to the competition? It is pretty much unanimous.
 
#30
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

Nice looking mount, any top-down pictures of it mounted up to show how far the latch mechanism sticks out?

It looks to me like the rib that the rings mount to on the Bobro could be disassembled from the locking base and flipped around so that the locking mechanism was on the right side instead of the left (albeit with the lever pointing to the front instead of to the rear). Is this true? If so, that could be an advantage for all those guys mounting their LaRue mount backwards on the FN Scar with a left side charging handle. SWFA could even sell it this way as an option for the Scar guys!

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#31
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I have used all three mounts extensively and would be perfectly happy using any of them. I am just not gonna buy into all the fanboyism surrounding these mounts when they all achieve the same purpose at the end of the day.
 
#32
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

I emailed Bobro and Larue both with a question about mounting optics on a rifle of mine. One responded- Bobro. Not a big deal, but an interesting tidbit, nonetheless.
 
#33
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trident1982</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have used all three mounts extensively and would be perfectly happy using any of them. I am just not gonna buy into all the fanboyism surrounding these mounts when they all achieve the same purpose at the end of the day. </div></div>

You sound pretty bitter about these mounts being hailed..... Are you coming over from AR15.com? Because thats where the koolaid is drunk by the LT fanboys. I like a mount that doesnt require a small wrench to make any adjustment from weapon to weapon if need be. The LT is not a true return to zero, there is plenty of evidence of that and I have seen it tested and retested first hand.

GDI is also a top grade mount. Do you hate them as well? I bet if I sent you that mount, 40 stickers, a bottle opener and some meat rub you would love them!

These are excellent mounts. I would say the positives of the system far outweigh the negatives.
 
#35
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: tt350z</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Bobro's are my hands down favorite QD mounts. </div></div>

I like the extra bearing surface on the clamp that the ADM mounts offer. Adjusting them is super easy as well. The bobro comes in 2nd. ADM really has something. I think they will experience explosive growth in the next few years as more and more people try them.
 
#36
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trident1982</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have used all three mounts extensively and would be perfectly happy using any of them. I am just not gonna buy into all the fanboyism surrounding these mounts when they all achieve the same purpose at the end of the day. </div></div>

You sound pretty bitter about these mounts being hailed..... Are you coming over from AR15.com? Because thats where the koolaid is drunk by the LT fanboys. I like a mount that doesnt require a small wrench to make any adjustment from weapon to weapon if need be. The LT is not a true return to zero, there is plenty of evidence of that and I have seen it tested and retested first hand.

GDI is also a top grade mount. Do you hate them as well? I bet if I sent you that mount, 40 stickers, a bottle opener and some meat rub you would love them!

These are excellent mounts. I would say the positives of the system far outweigh the negatives. </div></div>


That attack on him was totally uncalled for- his post was 100% neutral! He's actually saying he likes all of them the same and that they are all effective. WTF man?

And he has a good point- it seems these QD mounts each end up with a pack of groupies ready to rip the heads off of anyone not a part of the pack. Call them fanboys, groupies, loyal to the point of ignorance... Everything that dude said rings true and shows nothing but neutrality.
 
#37
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trident1982</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have used all three mounts extensively and would be perfectly happy using any of them. I am just not gonna buy into all the fanboyism surrounding these mounts when they all achieve the same purpose at the end of the day. </div></div>

You sound pretty bitter about these mounts being hailed..... Are you coming over from AR15.com? Because thats where the koolaid is drunk by the LT fanboys. I like a mount that doesnt require a small wrench to make any adjustment from weapon to weapon if need be. The LT is not a true return to zero, there is plenty of evidence of that and I have seen it tested and retested first hand.

GDI is also a top grade mount. Do you hate them as well? I bet if I sent you that mount, 40 stickers, a bottle opener and some meat rub you would love them!

These are excellent mounts. I would say the positives of the system far outweigh the negatives. </div></div>


That attack on him was totally uncalled for- his post was 100% neutral! He's actually saying he likes all of them the same and that they are all effective. WTF man?

And he has a good point- it seems these QD mounts each end up with a pack of groupies ready to rip the heads off of anyone not a part of the pack. Call them fanboys, groupies, loyal to the point of ignorance... Everything that dude said rings true and shows nothing but neutrality. </div></div>



It was actually called for. Despite me going into details why technically the Bobro is a better mount, he comes back with "they are all the same" crap. This isnt barfcom. I have no loyalty to any one brand what so ever. As i mentioned in original post, every single mount i have owned is a Larue. This is my first Bobro, so if anything i should be the one to say that LT is the "best" since slice bread.

But objectively anyone that has an IQ more than a toothpaste can look at the engineering behind the Bobro and agree it is the best mount.
 
#38
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

How big a PITA is the Bobro to tighten the rings? Those "hidden" nuts look like they need a special wrench and can only be accessed from underneath???

Also interesting to see how many are so "passionate" about their scope mounts
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#39
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RobG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How big a PITA is the Bobro to tighten the rings? Those "hidden" nuts look like they need a special wrench and can only be accessed from underneath???

Also interesting to see how many are so "passionate" about their scope mounts
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Nope, they take the same allen wrench. Also the "QD" portion of the mount is how quickly and reliably maintaining zero removing the mount and scope. There is nothing "QD" about any mount if you had to actually remove the scope from the mount. The time it would take to tighten all screws cross wise, level the scope etc, there would be nothing "quick" about it
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#40
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: alpha6164</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: DP425</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: KYS338</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: trident1982</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have used all three mounts extensively and would be perfectly happy using any of them. I am just not gonna buy into all the fanboyism surrounding these mounts when they all achieve the same purpose at the end of the day. </div></div>

You sound pretty bitter about these mounts being hailed..... Are you coming over from AR15.com? Because thats where the koolaid is drunk by the LT fanboys. I like a mount that doesnt require a small wrench to make any adjustment from weapon to weapon if need be. The LT is not a true return to zero, there is plenty of evidence of that and I have seen it tested and retested first hand.

GDI is also a top grade mount. Do you hate them as well? I bet if I sent you that mount, 40 stickers, a bottle opener and some meat rub you would love them!

These are excellent mounts. I would say the positives of the system far outweigh the negatives. </div></div>


That attack on him was totally uncalled for- his post was 100% neutral! He's actually saying he likes all of them the same and that they are all effective. WTF man?

And he has a good point- it seems these QD mounts each end up with a pack of groupies ready to rip the heads off of anyone not a part of the pack. Call them fanboys, groupies, loyal to the point of ignorance... Everything that dude said rings true and shows nothing but neutrality. </div></div>



It was actually called for. Despite me going into details why technically the Bobro is a better mount, he comes back with "they are all the same" crap. This isnt barfcom. I have no loyalty to any one brand what so ever. As i mentioned in original post, every single mount i have owned is a Larue. This is my first Bobro, so if anything i should be the one to say that LT is the "best" since slice bread.

But objectively anyone that has an IQ more than a toothpaste can look at the engineering behind the Bobro and agree it is the best mount. </div></div>

That would be called an opinion- and that other guy's opinion is that they are all equal. Again he was attacked as being a "larue fanboy" and not once in that post did he say anything about liking any specific brand.
 
#41
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I will likely try one of the Bobro's but it is funny to see the bandwagon mentality.

I am not that hard on my gear, so I rarely break anything, but LaRue has built a hell of a reputation with guys in the field who are rough on their gear, and it is funny to see how quickly people will bash them based on the bandwagon mentality. If the gear performs well for you, and LT provides good CS (which has been excellent in my experience) to me it is kind of silly to just bash the company because it became cool to on a board you visit.

If Bobro makes a better mount, then that is awesome because competition is great, but LT has provided great gear and great service for a long time. They are also great supporters of our troops from what I understand.
 
#42
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RobG</div><div class="ubbcode-body">How big a PITA is the Bobro to tighten the rings? Those "hidden" nuts look like they need a special wrench and can only be accessed from underneath???

Also interesting to see how many are so "passionate" about their scope mounts
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My singular concern with Bobro is losing one of those nuts, it ain't a common fastener.

That said, i like it!


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#43
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brett B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Nice looking mount, any top-down pictures of it mounted up to show how far the latch mechanism sticks out?

It looks to me like the rib that the rings mount to on the Bobro could be disassembled from the locking base and flipped around so that the locking mechanism was on the right side instead of the left (albeit with the lever pointing to the front instead of to the rear). Is this true? If so, that could be an advantage for all those guys mounting their LaRue mount backwards on the FN Scar with a left side charging handle. SWFA could even sell it this way as an option for the Scar guys!

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Yes, you can take the locking mechanism off and flip it around for left hand or right hand preference. This is truly the best mount on the market and a really innovative design.
 
#44
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Brett B</div><div class="ubbcode-body">...It looks to me like the rib that the rings mount to on the Bobro could be disassembled from the locking base and flipped around so that the locking mechanism was on the right side instead of the left (albeit with the lever pointing to the front instead of to the rear). Is this true?</div></div>

Yes, as pointed out it's true. You can even flip the lever assembly independently from the locking base, so it can point either front or rear, and operate on the left or right side.

The locking mechanism is very solid, even though it's a single clamping point, the jaw is pretty long so it has quite a bit of bearing surface. It's a nice piece of kit.
 
#45
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What's that old saying....something about the thread being useless without pics
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Here's a Bobro for those who haven't seen it.

Thanks to Brady at SWFA for convincing me to give one a try.

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How is the cheek weld on your POF? Looks like the scope sits a little hight?
 
#47
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

I'd like to see all of these mounts filmed with high speed video then slowed down to see which one is more rigid during recoil. Personally I think the Aadmount and Spuhr are better than all of the others, when using "stout" as a litmus test.

That said the Bobro does look nice. It would drive me nuts though having to hunt for the nuts on the underside while leveling a reticle. Not to mention at least if the nuts were on top you'd be more likely to notice one working loose.
 
#49
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

The NF Unimount puts the optical center 1.375" above the surface of the rail and is just about perfect for me with a similar piston AR. My rear BUIS just fits under the ocular of my NF 2.5-10x scope. The Bobro does look high on the POF, thanks for pointing it out as I'm looking for a mount for another scope. With 30mm rings, the ADM Recon is 1.471" high. I haven't seen any data for the Bobro, but will look around.

PS I found out that the 30mm Bobro mount is 1.52" high, so it is the highest of the three. Here's a summary:

* American Defense 30mm: 1.471" high (0 MOA cant, QD with 1 or 2 locking levers)
* AADMount 30mm: 1.625" (20 MOA cant, not QD)
* Bobro 30mm: 1.52" (0 MOA cant, QD with 1 locking lever)
* Nightforce 30mm Unimount: 1.375" (20 MOA cant, not QD)
* Larue Tactical 30mm LT-104: 1.5" (0 MOA cant, QD with 2 locking levers)
 
#50
Re: Bobro Optic mount! Larue has nothing on this!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BattleAxe</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><span style="font-weight: bold">I'd like to see all of these mounts filmed with high speed video then slowed down to see which one is more rigid during recoil</span>. </div></div>

It has indeed been done before...just not featured on youtube:) I would not count on any of the few folks who have performed the test/videos to share either the footage or the results. Grant @ G&R tactical IIrc has seen this high speed camera footage of the mounts during recoil.

One small thing to add...The Spuhr mount and the likes will obviously button down the glass more securely however on a 5.56 or .308 gas gun its rather overkill by not only it's excessive weight, but non QD ability kills that much more modularity in the AR platform. Another thing is you cannot run a rear buis or appears you cannot while running a Spuhr mount. On a real world AR that is a no go for me.
 
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